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I rolled 5 days in a row.. now what

KnowsNotWhatItMean said:
According to this info one could assume that being on MDMA every day would have no risk, which is a misleadingly false claim.
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No one said anything like that. It was stated and has been clinically shown that antioxidants and a number of nootropic compounds can decrease oxidative stress in the brain caused by MDMA use. You’ve got no scientific support for anything your saying so can you leave the thread until you have something other than just an opinion to contribute
 
Woah.. the replies in this thread took a wildly idiotic turn. I won’t mention names lol. Anyway, I’m STILL having fucking brain zaps.

Also worth mentioning, you guys know the title of this thread and how it says 5 days in a row? Yeah well guess what I did the very next day. Rolled again. I am incredibly stupid and deserve any and all brain damage at this point. But after 6 days, I was done. But yeah I’m still having brain zaps. Only other time I’ve felt these was after stopping an SSRI. I also really want to roll in 5 days for a festival but don’t want to risk further damage..:confused: it’s my own fault though I shouldn’t have had that nearly-week long binge. Thoughts on rolling once more (130-150mg) in 5 days? I’m hesitant but would appreciate any advice. Don’t necessarily look at encouragement as harm-INduction. Just want facts.
 
Swim15 said:
Okay not saying this is bad advice but your body doesn’t create any dead cells from rolling too much...maybe fry some neurons but you aren’t gonna pee those out lol.
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All that I was saying is that this advice is cheeky, even if you are actually speaking from adequate knowledge in neuroscience in which case you are obviously deliberately trolling.
Swim15 said:
No one said anything like that. It was stated and has been clinically shown that antioxidants and a number of nootropic compounds can decrease oxidative stress in the brain caused by MDMA use. You’ve got no scientific support for anything your saying so can you leave the thread until you have something other than just an opinion to contribute
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but neurons are the brain cells. I don't see how the fact that one is not going to pee those out is of much relevance at all in this particular thread, or how does this explanation contribute to anything?
 
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KnowsNotWhatItMean said:
All that I was saying is that this advice is cheeky, even if you are actually speaking from adequate knowledge in neuroscience I which case you are obviously deliberately trolling.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but neurons are the brain cells, I don't see how the fact that one is not going to pee those out is of much relevance at all in this particular thread?
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Okay my fault for playing into the troll. And it’s of relevance because it makes you sound even more idiotic lmao
 
Swim15 said:
Okay my fault for playing into the troll. And it’s of relevance because it makes you sound even more idiotic lmao
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Body cells are dying and forming constantly, your body will completely replace them all throughout your life numerous times.

Neurons, once they have been "fried" as you say, they don't come back as easily. Some new researches might be suggesting otherwise, but it's safe to say that this has been a commonly accepted fact.

This is in fact all that I can say in terms of actual facts, to contribute to this discussion for now. It's not completely impossible that this could be proven wrong.
 
Obviously this is an accepted fact. I’m not arguing it. Just that you don’t pee them out and hydrating above and adequate level isn’t going to help.

There’s also the fact that the supplements listed have been show to definitively decrease oxidative byproducts in the brain but you are picking and choosing facts.
 
Swim15 said:
Okay not saying this is bad advice but your body doesn’t create any dead cells from rolling too much...maybe fry some neurons but you aren’t gonna pee those out lol.

As said, rest, hydrate, exercise
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I am not picking and choosing facts, I am presenting them as you are asking me to present evidence.

Here you are talking about "fried neurons". You need to get your facts straight, because the evidence you are suggesting is a nonsense, the reason being you are presenting it in a completely wrong context.
 
Dude it’s a metaphor. The term ‘damaged’ is equivalent to ‘fried’ in terms of conveying the point. You won’t, however, pee those neurons out as you were saying. You still didn’t supply evidence though - I don’t see links to any medical studies or scientific papers.

Either way I did what I typically promise myself not to do and play into the trolls on the internet. If you have something to contribute then I’d love to read but otherwise, sorry OP lol
 
KnowsNotWhatItMean said:
You are obviously sadly mistaken about your idea of neurological damage, dude, you're probably best to go trolling elsewhere. I've already stated my opinions about your posts and I'm not going to answer any further.
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you are obviously too damaged from MDMA to type a logical sentence. There is medical journals proving that these things can prevent neurotoxicity and mitigate side effects. Read a fucking book
 
I don't really see where this is going, so I will make it clear that I personally, was not ever opposed to any of the theories about "reducing the harm". There is no reason to be starting blind arguments over the matter, for I have certainly never said that any of these claims were false.

This is why I don't see a reason to be participating in this thread, as I don't see a point in pointing fingers, because unfortunately, reading any of this stuff will most definitely not help, once the neurological damage had already been done. That is, in case it had been done. In case one's feeling bad after taking MDMA, following this advice can make one feel better. Feeling bad is pretty normal after abusing MDMA, that doesn't mean necessarily that any considerable neurological damage has occurred.

Reading can be stimulating for growth of new neurological pathways, or whatever you want to make out of this, but yeah, for some people there's just no help at all. So it's up to you, I guess.
 
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You said that you felt you knew better when talking about supplements used for harm reduction...that implies you believe they don’t. That’s all fine but I’d hope you’d base your reasoning on some sort of medical evidence but have yet to see any.

You are correct in that those supplements mentioned would not reverse neuronal damage after the fact. However, they could still help the brain do it’s damage control repair more quickly and help the user feel better faster.

Additionally, there are many other compounds that can actually reverse brain damage such as BPC, ISRIB, PLR, and others.

As of yet though, you haven’t added anything to the discussion besides calling advice worthless but yet still not presenting any evidence to the contrary when there’s is lots going against what you are saying.
 
Swim15 said:
You said that you felt you knew better when talking about supplements used for harm reduction...that implies you believe they don’t. That’s all fine but I’d hope you’d base your reasoning on some sort of medical evidence but have yet to see any.
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No, see, I was merely sharing my feelings on MDMA and it's side effects, from the place of having experienced such myself, there's nothing more in it.

I was not trying to start a whole debate on validity of such claims, I simply replied to your post that the information you're shoving down my throat is not interesting (to me), for I feel I know better, due to my negative experiences with MDMA. That's all. It's my personal opinion, it should at least be respected and accepted as such.
Swim15 said:
Okay not saying this is bad advice but your body doesn’t create any dead cells from rolling too much...maybe fry some neurons but you aren’t gonna pee those out lol.
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You were just being cheeky, in this post that I was referring to, I find your posts almost amusing, because I don't see what's the point you are trying to make. I was not calling your advice worthless, you were just being cheeky with that advice to begin with for assuming someone's neurons are worthless.
Swim15 said:
As of yet though, you haven’t added anything to the discussion besides calling advice worthless but yet still not presenting any evidence to the contrary when there’s is lots going against what you are saying.
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I have already told you that I am not interested in the point which you are trying to prove to me and that I will not be responding to your posts any further. I am not going to argue with you. There may be nothing wrong in expressing such ideas, but as I have stated, you are presenting them in the wrong place and out of context, which goes in hand with challenging my statements. I find your behaviour is on the verge of abusing and that you should probably stop.
 
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Abusing? Fuck haha you should see what I do to my girlfriend

Edit: *consensual abuse* lol
 
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