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Bupe i really need advice!!!

lossingit

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Okay so I need some advice , I am working on getting off these suboxone and so far I have gone down form between 8-6 mg a day to 2-3 a day and it has been 2 weeks and I have felt like crap, mostly hot cold sweats and irritability and my mind is kind of starting to lose it. I am preparing to "jump" completely off but I am waiting because I cant do it at home, mainly because I have not told my sons and I just cant stand the thought of them seeing me a sick again and going through this again. I have been taking them a year. My sons are in there 20s and don't live at home but we are very close and they are around a lot so no doubt they would see me. I have always been open and honest with them about my addiction problems and by the grace of god they don't use and our amazing young men I just could not stand the them knowing I relapsed. Of coarse I am regretting that decision and have thought about telling them but have not yet I don't know what to do . Anyway I am going to have enough money in a week or two to get out of town for a bit and I figured I would tell them I was going on vacation with Gma and just go do it somewhere else. I did finely tell my mother and she is supportive and willing to go with me and help out if I need her ( which was such a relieve to have her support and she did not freak out as I had anticipated ). I am going to try and keep going lower before I jump but I am at my wits end feeling like this I just am ready to be done and get my life back. I just want to laugh and be happy again. I am starting to feel dead inside and sorta like a zombie or something and I am hating it because I am in general a happy person. Is it normal to feel like this ?? Like not myself at all, I get so angry and so frustrated way to easy ex: mailman was late and I was so mad I could have fought her!!! wth??? Also my eating is all screwed up my stomach feels empty but I cant eat. Just everything is different, no sex drive at all , no ambition, no drive, no nothing . Why do I feel this way??? Should I tell my boys? Should I just stop now? I have taken some time off work I feel really bad about and by default I beat myself up a lot and I am trying so hard not to but its hard. I am sorry for sounding so negative its just right now I feel that way........... anyway It is so cold where I live and been snowing for a month or 2 and I hate the cold so I thought maybe go somewhere warm a different environment and jump it might be easier. One time I did and mom and I went to Nashville it did help a little I forced myself to get out and walk etc. It is very easy to sit home and feel sorry for myself so that's my thought any one have any ideas or thoughts about that?? Anyhow I am just so lost and so confused and don't know where to turn or how to handle all this thank goodness I at least have somewhere to put my thoughts. I know this is a little random and all over the place seems to be the way my mind has been for a while all over the place. Please help I am sure its hard to give advice without knowing all the details of my life so if you have a question you can ask. I am married and my husband don't use and is supporitive and I can do whatever I need to do he is fine with that. Although I am sure he is getting tired of me being sick and depressed I told him just hold on and I will be my old self . I just want to get back in meetings and church so bad
 
A lot of people find that suboxone 'turns on them' which is why they decide to get off. For you it's probably a combination of that and the lower dose is making you realize it more as your true feeling are starting to peek through. Try to taper down more before you fully stop, and if you can get some benzos like Valium or Xanax they will help soften the blow when you finally quit. The worst is usually the insomnia, restless legs, and anxiety, so those would help with that. Clonidine helps a lot too but is also prescription so idk if you can get it.

Two weeks away is definitely the way to go IMO, but since suboxone withdrawals last longer than other opiate withdrawals make sure you are fully off before you leave so it allows you to get through the acute phase of withdrawal while you are away.
 
Do you think it will help that i have been spitting the sub out instead of swallowing them?? I have been doing that for 6 months because I felt like the naloxone was making me feel awful and i read spitting it out would keep the naloxone out of your system. Does that maybe help at all???
 
So do you only get support on here if you have been on forever or what no one even responds to anything I post so fuck it I guess..........................
 
You should be letting the entire sub dissolve under your tongue. I'd be willing to bet the reason your feeling like such shit is bc you've been spitting/swallowing your subs. Your theory about naloxone is wrong. The only time naloxone is gonna make a difference is if you try taking a full agonist opiate (oxy, heroin etc) after dosing your sub. Let the full 2-3mg dissolve trying not to swallow or talk best you can and I think you'd feel a difference

You said you've dropped from 8-6mg to 2-3mg over two weeks. Did you stick to any schedule of how much you decreased your dose and how often? Bc that could have something to do with how your feeling. You've been on subs for a year, that's a long time for it to build in your system. Jumping from 6mg-3mg over a couple of days will make you feel shitty

If you can get out of the area for a week or two while you withdrawal I would recommend that. I've withdrawn in my home and there's times I travelled 1000 miles and rode it out in a hotel room. and for me getting out of your regular environment for a little can make a big difference. Being around new scenery can def help to get your mind off how bad your withdrawal is from time to time.

Regardless your gonna have to come back home. Don't underestimate the people,places,things aspect. The more ppl you have who can support u and you can be open with will help keep you sober. If that means tellings your sons then so be it. If they're mature enough then telling them will only reinforce that support system you have when you come back home

If you can get your hands on any rx meds before you detox try to get clonodine, ambien, a few benzos and muscle relaxers. As far as over the counter, Benadryl, loperamide, and Tylenol/Advil are all good. I dk how u feel about it but weed can really help pass the time and get your mind off how bad you feel. If u have any questions u can pm me but fyi I'm rarely ever on here

Sorry no one got back to u sooner, theres been so many threads about sub w.d most ppl just ignore them. Your better suited for the mega threads. but I kno how u must be feeling and reading through tons of other posts can be a daunting task. Hope it all works out for u
 
So do you only get support on here if you have been on forever or what no one even responds to anything I post so fuck it I guess..........................

Have some patience, jesus. This isn't an emergency forum.. people sleep, have lives, etc.. So, if somebody doesn't respond in 5 seconds (which by the way, is them volunteering their time to help you) don't freak out.

And, an honest tip for getting more responses is to break up your post into short paragraphs. Big walls of text tend to get passed over because they give the impression of being more text than they are.

Tommyboy gave you a great reply by the way.
 
Didn't read the big wall of text but some basic sub advice is that if you are "dependant" on it already is that you should generally taper .25-.5mg every 3-4 days, depending on what you can handle. If I have the strips, I like to put it on my gums and let it disolve on the side. works just as well without saliva getting all over it. If its the pill I use a snuff bullet and use maybe half the amount. Best of luck quitting. I am in the same boat with you
 
I am seriously sorry for being so nasty just tired of feeling so gross... and thank you for the advice
 
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