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berry1

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Ok so ive made a doctors apoitment (sorry its really hard to type) for tomorow morning.

Because ive been having some serious dificultys, last night about 12pm i had a huge panic attack again and i was literally disorientated all night it took me till 5 in the morning to get to sleep. (yes i had to take the day off college). But i woke up today seeling just as disorientated and i was panicing like fuck becasue i didn't know where i was. And its been like this all day ive just felt traped and i no it sounds rediculous but i feel really scared i dont no why i try and tell my self haha your being rediculous come on your 19 but then i just cant get the feelings out of my head... thats probably because i feel really dissy and a little bit disorientated.

For any of you that dont no i had a really bad trip on legal weed and mushrooms 2 weeks ago but im allmost certan that this is something to do with my awareness and probably a psychological thing.

So any help advice ideas, Do you's think it could be an awareness in the brain thats making me feel like this?

On the other hand i do have alot of stress on at the moment and that may play some part in my anxiety... so i no you's are no doctors but im just looking for your personal opinions ?

Thanks a bunch and as i said i am seeing the doc tomorow morning (hopfully i will get something to help me anxietylol.
 
Hey man. You gotta stop trying to solve something - especially when you dunno exactly what you're trying to solve or 'get rid of'. I've been in states like that many times, and I find it works best to just treat yourself like you have the flu. You know when you kind of slow down and focus on small little things, listen to your body, make yourself as comfortable as you can, and just do something simple like 'okay im gonna watch this tv show I like, and then after that ill see about having some food, then maybe after that ill look outside for a while' and dont think it any further than that.

There is nothing wrong with you, you just gotta slow your roll a bit, and look forward to tomorrow and not backwards to any time in the past at all.
 
^ This. The hardest, yet the most important, helpful and healing thing one can do when in a panic attack is... nothing.

Just sit there, and do absolutely nothing. You will realize that you are fine. Nothing is wrong. You don't need to DO anything to make it right. Nothing is right and nothing is wrong. It just is.

And listen to some music.
 
If you came to some realization from the drug that you now perceive as negative and uncomfortable don't worry. Once you spend enough time sober and face this fear enough you'll come to realize that is actually positive and you'll accept it then and move on.
 
Thanks for all the replys, tbh i havent had any legal or for that matter illegal drugs... the last time i had the legal highs where 2 weeks ago.

Most of the effects wore off the other day then i had an argument and all the effects come back again... panic attacks, feeling like your floating etc and now 2 days after i still feel the same way. Is it normal for all the effects to come back again just from an argument?

thanks everyone
 
Also i do try and do other things like play some games then a few mins after i start panicing again and feeling really dissy, Also my right ear is very muffled today and i cant hear brilleantly out of it. ?

thanks everyone
 
This used to happen to me a few years ago when I was in school. I was about your age, too. Looking back on it, I'm sure it was stress related. I was in over my head, with a heavy work load and professors that I didn't get along with. High School had always been easy for me, and many things about the University system of education frustrated me. It seemed like my degree program (studio art) was designed for failure. I couldn't eat right because the vegetarian options in the cafeteria were limited, and often had meat in them anyway. I was being charged $16/day for food that I wasn't even eating, and they wouldn't let me get off the food plan. I was also being charged something like $1200/month for what amounted to a shared efficiency apartment (dorm room). The kind of place I could have rented on my own for less than half that.

Anyway, I left that school because a friend of mine ran into some legal trouble (not going into it), and the police thought that I was somehow involved. It happened on the last day of the term, so that made it a real good time to skip town. I probably would have gone back to school, but as soon as I left I felt like a big weight had been lifted off me. The panic attacks immediately stopped, as well as my other nervous symptoms. Overall, leaving school did a lot of my self confidence and gave me the courage to take my own path instead of the one set out for me by authority figures. I felt like I had been trapped in College, but had been miraculously set free.

Since then, I have thought about going back to school, but ran into a lot of difficulties with the political and bureaucratic nature of higher education. Having spent the last few years living in the real world, I have a much lower tolerance for bullshit than I did before. Until yesterday I was going back to school to become a fire fighter, but suddenly my financial aid was dropped and I was booted from all my classes. They are also saying I owe them 40 bucks for dropped credit fees.

I'm not saying that you should drop out of school. I'm just saying that it isn't right for everyone. There is a lot of pressure in College, and few releases. I'd stay away from the legal weed, but real weed and low doses of psychedelics might actually help you. They definitely did a lot for me when I was in your place. I honestly think that you should only be in college if:
A: You know exactly why you are there. You know without question what you want to do, and how long it will take to get there. You also know that you will be able to find work with your degree.
B: There is no other way for you to achieve that goal without college. If there is any entry level position that you can get in your field of choice that doesn't require a degree, then take that over college. Spend a couple years learning about the job while getting paid, instead of paying. Often, if you need a degree to progress within a company, they will pay for you to go to school. For me, hands on training was always more useful than text book theory, anyway.

I hope this helps. Whatever you decide, please make an effort to lighten your load. Everyone needs time off to relax and unwind. It is a harsh reality that many "4 year" degree programs are actually more like "5-6 year" programs, unless you have the ability to bend space and time. Avoid taking too many lab classes, since you get fewer credits for the time you spend in class and have more outside work that can't be done at home. If your degree program is almost exclusively lab work, then consider going part time and getting a job. IMHO, most jobs are a lot less stress than school.
 
Roger&Me said:
Sounds like a fairly common case of anxiety. Have you tried cognitive behavioral therapy?
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Thanks for the reply mate, i managed to put the panic attack off with deap stedy breaths but im literally taking deep breaths constantly and i still feel weird if you no what i mean i just feel really un normal and anxious. Ill have a look at that therapy but tbh i cant go out of the house with out nearly having a panic attack... im going to the docs later hopfully any way i over slept my morning docs visit. Im hoping for some kind of anxiety pills... do you think they would help? because the way im thinking now is that if i can carm the anxiety i can hopfully over come all this shit. Ive got to go down to college tomorow because my tutors peed with me having all this time off, he just wants a sort of meeting... im not looking foreward to that. also what ive found is if i sit down for a while and try and relax my whole body starts to tingle and go numb then i get up and most of the numbness goes.

thanks so much for the reply
 
artic said:
This used to happen to me a few years ago when I was in school. I was about your age, too. Looking back on it, I'm sure it was stress related. I was in over my head, with a heavy work load and professors that I didn't get along with. High School had always been easy for me, and many things about the University system of education frustrated me. It








seemed like my degree program (studio art) was designed for failure. I couldn't eat right because the vegetarian options in the cafeteria were limited, and often had meat in them anyway. I was being charged $16/day for food that I wasn't even eating, and they wouldn't let me get off the food plan. I was also being charged something like $1200/month for what amounted to a shared efficiency apartment (dorm room). The kind of place I could have rented on my own for less than half that.

Anyway, I left that school because a friend of mine ran into some legal trouble (not going into it), and the police thought that I was somehow involved. It happened on the last day of the term, so that made it a real good time to skip town. I probably would have gone back to school, but as soon as I left I felt like a big weight had been lifted off me. The panic attacks immediately stopped, as well as my other nervous symptoms. Overall, leaving school did a lot of my self confidence and gave me the courage to take my own path instead of the one set out for me by authority figures. I felt like I had been trapped in College, but had been miraculously set free.

Since then, I have thought about going back to school, but ran into a lot of difficulties with the political and bureaucratic nature of higher education. Having spent the last few years living in the real world, I have a much lower tolerance for bullshit than I did before. Until yesterday I was going back to school to become a fire fighter, but suddenly my financial aid was dropped and I was booted from all my classes. They are also saying I owe them 40 bucks for dropped credit fees.

I'm not saying that you should drop out of school. I'm just saying that it isn't right for everyone. There is a lot of pressure in College, and few releases. I'd stay away from the legal weed, but real weed and low doses of psychedelics might actually help you. They definitely did a lot for me when I was in your place. I honestly think that you should only be in college if:
A: You know exactly why you are there. You know without question what you want to do, and how long it will take to get there. You also know that you will be able to find work with your degree.
B: There is no other way for you to achieve that goal without college. If there is any entry level position that you can get in your field of choice that doesn't require a degree, then take that over college. Spend a couple years learning about the job while getting paid, instead of paying. Often, if you need a degree to progress within a company, they will pay for you to go to school. For me, hands on training was always more useful than text book theory, anyway.

I hope this helps. Whatever you decide, please make an effort to lighten your load. Everyone needs time off to relax and unwind. It is a harsh reality that many "4 year" degree programs are actually more like "5-6 year" programs, unless you have the ability to bend space and time. Avoid taking too many lab classes, since you get fewer credits for the time you spend in class and have more outside work that can't be done at home. If your degree program is almost exclusively lab work, then consider going part time and getting a job. IMHO, most jobs are a lot less stress than school.
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Hi mate,
thanks for the reply it has helped me greatly... I will give it a look with the leaving college thing it will just take a little thinking... I am more of a hands on person tbh. I wish i could try some other psychedelics but tbh cant even look at my bong with out more anxiety and possibly another panic attack coming on. So i think i will give them a miss for a while lol. Sorry to hear about your dificultys as well mate :D

thanks
 
berry1 said:
Thanks for the reply mate, i managed to put the panic attack off with deap stedy breaths but im literally taking deep breaths constantly and i still feel weird if you no what i mean i just feel really un normal and anxious. Ill have a look at that therapy but tbh i cant go out of the house with out nearly having a panic attack... im going to the docs later hopfully any way i over slept my morning docs visit. Im hoping for some kind of anxiety pills... do you think they would help? because the way im thinking now is that if i can carm the anxiety i can hopfully over come all this shit. Ive got to go down to college tomorow because my tutors peed with me having all this time off, he just wants a sort of meeting... im not looking foreward to that. also what ive found is if i sit down for a while and try and relax my whole body starts to tingle and go numb then i get up and most of the numbness goes.

thanks so much for the reply
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If you get pills for anxiety, they'll most likely be benzos or an SSRI. Benzos will definitely help in the short term, but they are VERY addictive and I really don't recommend getting involved with them-- I'm almost 9 months off benzos now, and I still have muscle twitching and burning sensations from the withdrawal-- so you can see why I'm hesitant to recommend them. BUT, if you feel you really need them in the short term, they absolutely will temporarily relieve your anxiety.

SSRIs don't have a great track record for treating anxiety (or really even depression for that matter, but that's another issue), and they can also actually increase anxiety in the short-term. Some people do report a reduction in anxiety after stabilizing on an SSRI dose, though, so it may be worth looking into if other options aren't successful.

The reason I mentioned cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) is because it seems to have a great track record for controlling anxiety, and I've used the techniques myself to get a grip on my own panic attacks. Anyways, its something that might be worth looking into; anxiety can be really tough and debilitating if left untreated, so you're doing the right thing by seeking out some help for it. Just be aware that benzos shouldn't be taken for more than about 2 weeks (at most), because the addiction is astronomically destructive.

Good luck! <3
 
Roger&Me said:
If you get pills for anxiety, they'll most likely be benzos or an SSRI. Benzos will definitely help in the short term, but they are VERY addictive and I really don't recommend getting involved with them-- I'm almost 9 months off benzos now, and I still have muscle twitching and burning sensations from the withdrawal-- so you can see why I'm hesitant to recommend them. BUT, if you feel you really need them in the short term, they absolutely will temporarily relieve your anxiety.

SSRIs don't have a great track record for treating anxiety (or really even depression for that matter, but that's another issue), and they can also actually increase anxiety in the short-term. Some people do report a reduction in anxiety after stabilizing on an SSRI dose, though, so it may be worth looking into if other options aren't successful.

The reason I mentioned cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) is because it seems to have a great track record for controlling anxiety, and I've used the techniques myself to get a grip on my own panic attacks. Anyways, its something that might be worth looking into; anxiety can be really tough and debilitating if left untreated, so you're doing the right thing by seeking out some help for it. Just be aware that benzos shouldn't be taken for more than about 2 weeks (at most), because the addiction is astronomically destructive.

Good luck! <3
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Hi mate,
thanks alot, i just feel that i need something to take the edge off but i will do some reasarch into the therapy thank you.

Im assuming also that docs will be very off putting about pills as they dont like to subscribe addictive things do they?.

Mmm! im definatley going to be very cautious about the SSRIs but its weird because it sort of hits me in bursts like it carmed down for a minute now its coming on again.

Thanks for the help, i dont think im going to mention the mushrooms to the doc thought ill probably say everything with out the mushrooms.

thanks
 
berry1 said:
Thanks for the help, i dont think im going to mention the mushrooms to the doc thought ill probably say everything with out the mushrooms.

thanks
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Yeah, there's no reason to mention that you've been doing drugs-- saying that to a doctor will only backfire on you (its not even pertinent info in this case, ie it won't change the course of treatment). Just say you're experiencing severe anxiety and describe your symptoms.
 
I will mate thanks... the pills called larazapam will they help. sorry if i didn't spell it right.

thanks
 
Yes, lorazepam is a benzo-- which means that its a very powerful anti-anxiety drug. Like I mentioned before though, its very addictive if taken regularly for more than about 2 weeks-- so its good for the short term, but (seriously) don't start relying on it. 1mg or so of lorazepam should have you nicely sedated and anxiety-free (it feels kinda like you've been drinking beers, but more relaxing).
 
Roger&Me said:
Yes, lorazepam is a benzo-- which means that its a very powerful anti-anxiety drug. Like I mentioned before though, its very addictive if taken regularly for more than about 2 weeks-- so its good for the short term, but (seriously) don't start relying on it. 1mg or so of lorazepam should have you nicely sedated and anxiety-free (it feels kinda like you've been drinking beers, but more relaxing).
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Hi mate, thanks alot
yea i was just thinking because i rang the docs and their closed till tomorow so it looks like ill have to go tomorow... Thanks again and i wont mate i was just thinking short term no more than a few days but ill probably leave it till i see the doc tomorow...

thanks
 
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