I need help guys....no not THAT help

[BlueBerryKing1]

The question is in general: For someone who rarely take suboxones, let's say I took it at 1 PM. Will I be safe to use at 8 AM tomorrow? I just got my check tonight and im beating myself up for even taking the shit. So let's say I take 1 8mg sub at 1 PM yesterday. will I be safe to use a seperate opiate at 8 AM tomorrow? I'm 6'0 195 lbs. In the past, I've waited 10-12 hours and felt what I should have been feeling. I am just nervous I could OD because of the blockers in the sub (i.e. narcane? that's what's in it right?)

Moral of the story, ethics and moral aside, is it more than 60% possible I'll get high in the morning? BTW I'm brand new (just signed up) to the site, and I think what you guys have here is phenomenal.

-Scott

 

[Bman2]

Yes the narcan(naloxone) would block the effects but it wouldn't cause you to OD when you dose your opiate. Narcan is used to prevent OD's, they give it to people in the midst of an opiate OD to bring them back down to normal. However, Taking sub while currently on opiates will cause precipitated withdrawals, so it's usually used when user is OD'ing and the potential risk(possible death) is a bigger problem than making yourself sick. In your case, you already dosed your sub first and your only concern is whether or not you will get any effects from your dose. Worst case, you will just waste whatever you take, because you won't feel anything. IME, you want to wait 4-6 hrs per 1mg of sub. 8mg you will want to wait 32-48 hrs before you can really feel your opiate 100%.

If you only give it your proposed 19 hours, you will probably see very reduced effects to the point where you should just try to suck it up and wait. I can't tell you how many oxys I wasted in the past trying to fit them in between suboxone doses. I always tried to cheat it by a couple hours and it was never worth it, especially since it sounds like you're using precious funds to pay for this, versus having a big supply where you can afford to possibly waste some. You can some times cheat a couple hours early on your dose with H. Good H has a chance to break through the sub, but oxy never had any effects if ANY sub was in my system. If you get withdrawals, you can wait until you start feeling sick and that's your queue to dose. Otherwise, just time it out 32-48 hrs.

Also, just a tip from someone that had to learn it the hard way; sub dependency can be nasty. Unless you have a pretty good habit, you shouldn't need 8mg of sub. I know you say you're not using often, but I would only use as much as you would need to keep yourself well. If taking recreationally, that will almost certainly lead to problems if frequency of use ever increases.