TDS I need advise. Is it to harsh?

TheStarOnIR

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I have written my absent father whom decided to leave my sister and I for an unknown reason. Is it too harsh, I'm just so angry at this man. Any help would be appreciated. I have to add I have him an opportunity that he half ass fulfilled, only to magically disappear again..

-So I'm sitting here on this Saturday morning and it suddenly occurs to me as I watch my daughter run around and play with her toys and watch cartoons that I never hear from you ever. That just mind fucks me every time. I can't wrap my head around it; even after all of these years still you have maintained the definitive description of what every individual with an opinion would explain to me about you.

In fact not one person wanted to give you any credibility at all no one other than me that is. I didn't want to accept you to be what others had accepted years ago. Despite the opportunity graciously given to you, you so effortlessly managed to give validity to all of those derogative statements others made. So it begs the question, do you do this shit subconsciously? Or are you in fact a man with no interest in his biological children, and now grandchild.

You were given this undeserved opportunity to redeem yourself, but instead you could literally care less. You weren’t at all willing to ride the road to redemption and take the simple initiative to fix it. That is shameful and inexcusable. As far as I am concerned they were precise and accurate you fit each statements made verbatim.

I didn't want nor did I expect you to break out the baseball and gloves and play catch in the yard. Simply just a call here and there, I don’t know possibly a visit once or twice a year...

I wondered who you were, what did you look like, does he think of me, does he give a single fucking thought or care at all? I would call you and hang up just to hear your voice; somehow I figured I’d effectively attribute that to the imaginary picture instilled in my mind. For years I did these things. I was left to only guess, I was another young boy without a any clue of what I would become. I had nothing to utilize as a tool to understand my genealogy. I would never know the lineages underlined in a family lost. These essential elements would mold and shape the individual I would grow to become. I was just a delinquent boy, a little bastard child with an unknown negligent man to reference as his father.

I can appreciate the fact that as men we are subjected to adversity, inadvertently some of them are enough to knock the strongest man to his knees. I realize we are obligated to consider the painstaking pressure from the workday world and all sidelined realms of hardship emotionally and physically just as well. I could maybe excuse the neglect if you had acquired some substantial liquidity or something, but that wasn't the case and realistically isn’t a viable explanation either.

I'm a father now and still I fulfill all of my duties. I succumbed into the day to day shit we call employment. Otherwise, I'm not fiscally compensated. That meant I had to wrap my lips around the mighty erection of corporate America and render my services every single day. It doesn't and it never will implicate my ability to father my daughter.

I am just as busy as the next guy. Yet still I'm here for her. I do whatever it is I have to do to insure that my history does not repeat itself. As fathers we are needed, we are mandated to leave all of our self-destructive bull shit at the door so that we can be there for our children because that's what men do. You on the other hand have essentially sent all your emotions up the flagpole; I can assure you not one person is going to salute that shit.

Why it is you were unable to do anything to make it right makes me infuriated. My anger is a force to be reckoned with. Why you did this shit is something I have tried to understand for way too long. I finally found my way; intrinsically I am stabilized. Despite the statistic inevitability to the contrary I did two things; while others were dreaming I was crushing my competition and you were nowhere to be found.

Lnever had an interest to know you; she didn’t want to speak to you, nothing to offer you at all. Now she is mentally unfit to commit herself to anyone, she directly reflects destruction by day. I attribute her promiscuity to your lack thereof.

I know you did these things for K and LA I'm so thrilled you are instantly gratified in that you were able to replace L and I and effectively condone that. Truthfully, I think I would have preferred you become inebriated nightly and assumed the position as some bar stool prophecy, drowning in a sea of pointless pussy while your family went on without you. Instead you just folded and gave up.

It's ridiculous to excuse all of the issues so please don’t bother. I could continue this meaningless rant forever. I have learned quite a bit throughout this conglomeration of disappointment and indiscriminate role models surrounding me. -Problems they don't exist, there are only solutions. No one cares about why something happened or how it wasn’t conducive all they want is for it to be resolved.

I guess I'm just finally moving on and giving up on the hope that you would one day make it all right. I'm not sure if I ever really cared. I'm now accepting defeat. I have never let anyone get over on me. No one ever gets the best of me. You were the only one who did. I always said that the liberals and the lazy lose. Unfortunately you fit the description. This should give you some clarity in how I feel.

Analytically I tend to dissect every circumstantial piece of a situation; I then weigh out the realism within it. I am not an average person, I consider the difficulties of you being a young father with no idea how to do anything right. It’s the blatant ignorance following my incarceration, the fact that you ignored everything about Lil birth. Who the fuck are you, how is this even an issue. Surely you must have some sort of reason, but you just don’t. I do have an answer, one that I was left to develop on my own just like I have had to do from the very beginning. Simply you are scared of yourself you are weaker than ice water. You are nothing but a self-serving sack of shit that probably always took the easy way out of everything.


If I were to die tomorrow it would be another day you would instantly forget. You missed out champ, my sister and I were the best thing that ever became of you. The series of unfortunate events that took place in all of your days happened for a reason. You earned every single negative moment to date. I didn’t ask for any of this shit. I don’t care about anything other than the fact that you let it happen and still did nothing. The devastating days as a child were sickening. I saw things, I did things, things that no one should ever have to see or do. You have no idea not a small fraction of the overwhelming detriment I came through. I want you to understand something, No man, no place, no woman, not one fucking person, place, or thing, could hold me back from being the man I need to be for my daughter.- The man you couldn't and never can be. I can, I did, and I am still that man today. No thanks to you. Marinate in that, let it do to you what it has done to me for 23 years. I am the direct reflection of everything you were missing. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. For once I will.
 
I don't think it's too harsh. It's honest and from the heart.

I grew up without a father too and understand wanting to give them a chance (even though they haven't made any effort to contact/see you) and the anger when they screw up that chance.
 
Hey, if it makes you feel better to have written it, then good on you. My suggestion would be to wait a week to mail it. If you still want to at the end of the week, mail it.
 
I don't think it's too harsh. It's honest and from the heart.

I grew up without a father too and understand wanting to give them a chance (even though they haven't made any effort to contact/see you) and the anger when they screw up that chance.

Same. Man I've gone through stuff similar to this with my dad. You want so badly to believe they'll feel they made a mistake and change, but I've yet to see it happen for anyone I'm afraid.

Truth is, some dads, a lot of dads, just don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. By all means send the letter, just be prepared for the response you don't want to hear.

I confronted my dad on why he abandoned me. He told me... he didn't want to be a father, and that it was just as much my fault for not going out of my way to seek him out... when I was fucking 6-14, as it was his in choosing to leave the country. I don't know much about my dad, but what I do, I kinda wish I didn't. I know he's a user of women, doesn't like to use protection and prefers to pressure them into having abortions when they end up pregnant. I know his relationship with my mother broke down because he used his dying brother as an excuse to travel away and have an affair with some chick he later ended up stalking. And I know my mother to this day still defends him and I can't for the life of me understand why. It's some sort of "marriage is sacred" kinda thing. And what little I remember of being that young, I remember life being even worse before he left.

The point I'm making in bringing this up.... is I get why you want to send him the letter, I get why you want to confront him in some way, and I wish you the best, but be prepared for the possibility that you will only hate him even more the more you know.

Sounds like you're trying to be a better father than he was for your daughter, good on you. My mother is far from perfect, but I'll always be thankful for at least trying. She has her own problems and I know that as much as she's hurt me, she's doing the best she can. Doing the best you can is all anyone can ever do. Sounds like your father didn't do anything of the sort. It's not too harsh to tell him that, if anything it's not harsh enough.
 
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I went out on a limb on this one.. so please don't be offended if little or non apply to you.. hopefully you or another that's hurting can benefit from part or all of this<3


I am sorry for all your pain<3 from what I read I think you may be searching for a reason for your father leaving in YOU. One of the reasons you seem to explore for your father leaving was that It was something to do with you or your sister. If this is the case it may be causing thought of inadequacy, self doubt, and a constant need to prove yourself to yourself. Emotions that may accompany this could include guilt, shame, anxiety (esp social but not around people you are close with) sadness, and anger. In your life you may be expecting, demanding, and accomplishing in being an idea of a perfect man. You may have driven yourself insanely hard and take it unusually hard, with some of the mentioned emotions hitting really hard, if you occasionally didn't meet one of your insanely hard goals, or were not perfect or heaven forbid average. You may strive to be the perfect dad so hard that any mistake tears you apart. It is pretty probable IMO that you are successful. You probably have obtained a good education, working a decent profession with advancement goals, financially.. All the things society tells you are the ways to success, happiness.. You may have said shit.. I made it or am on my way.. I have arrived or will arrived!!! I am amazing, look at everything I've done. If this is the case.. you may also be wondering why your not as happy as you predicted, you MAY have some uncomfortable anxiety. With all you've done you may wonder why those underlying thoughts of doubt haven't disappeared?

Your fathers choice to leave is in no way a reflection on you. You and your sister are in no way to blame for this. There is nothing about you that caused him to make this decision. Because someone chooses to act like he doesn't love you does not mean there is something unlovable about you. You where amazing then and you are amazing now. Please stop trying to figure out what excuses, rationalization, crazy justification, reason he chose to do what he did. It really doesn't matter! He made a terrible mistake and there is never going to be any reason he can give you that will give you any peace. That's because there is no right answer for that question.

What I believe you need to do, AND THIS IS FOR YOU, NOT YOUR FATHER!!!! You need to forgive him. You need to flat out forgive him, realize there is no justification for his actions and forgive him.

If you are able to do this you will be amazed at the weight it lifts off of you. You are and have been carrying this pain for so long, if you can forgive him without any reservations you will be set free of that part of you that is tearing you apart. It may be one of the hardest things you ever do but you need to dump all that pain your carrying because of another's terrible mistake. Also if you have severe reservations about forgiving a man that has chosen to ignore/blow off/screw up all the opportunities you have given him to begin to make things rite please AT LEAST CONSIDER this... from what I've read you seem like a strong man, and the apple doesn't usually fall far from the tree.. please at least consider the possibility that your father made that huge mistake all those years ago and has not been able to confront that mistake. His mistake may be killing just as much as it does to you. even with you offering these paths to reconciliation, he may not be able to face it, after all there is nothing he can say to you that will justify his actions. If you forgive him and tell him that you have done this it may just open up the walls he has built and reinforced around the pain he has because of his choice. If this is the case please be aware that this pain may be to big and something he chooses never to confront. If you forgive him and tell him it will set you free and may allow him to begin to become a part of your life again. you may not even want this.

If any of the things I said about following all the stuff people/society tell you is the path to success then I would look at this. In order to get where YOU are ment to go you need to listen to YOU. By following what was convincingly sold to you as the correct golden path to happiness you may have unknowingly, and with the greatest intentions, placed there values above yours. You may not have even paid attention to you values, trusting in those other values that are dangled in front of us as the golden ticket to life. Figure out what is the important things in life for YOU, in other words you values. Then begin to live your life getting what you value. Climbing the bs corporate ladder in the rat race to buy all kinds of garbage, that doesn't make you happy, working more and harder for occupational prestige and flaunting wealth in order to convince others and most importantly yourself that you are not wasting huge portions of your life is a long unsatisfying road. The reality is, working a job you despise is not part of life and if i'm not happy with all the stuff/money/status then it just doesn't exist is something someone who has wasted their life in pursuit of these things says to comfort themselves and six weeks of vacation and all the money in the world to spend on those vacations doesn't make up for slaving a job you despise. Figure out what you love and wok at doing that for things that you love. You already know where to go, FOLLOW YOUR HEART IT KNOWS where its going, you have to listen because sometimes it whispers but sometimes it screams. Buy identifying whats important to you and following your heart the anxiety will go away. Anxiety is the way WE tell OURSELVES that we aren't living the way WE want to. Once we identify whats important to us, and follow our heart, then all we have to do is believe in our heart. Once you realize that what you value is ALWAYS rite then you will no longer subconsciously need the approvals of others, hence your social anxiety will disappear.

Courage is all it takes,
forgive him, you can and will loose only what you don't need..
listen to your heart, loose any fear its always got you and all yours covered.
You will find yourself and if YOU CHOOSE, possibly someone you lost.

Very Best wishes..
 
Thank You @neversickanymore

I went out on a limb on this one.. so please don't be offended if little or non apply to you.. hopefully you or another that's hurting can benefit from part or all of this<3


I am sorry for all your pain<3 from what I read I think you may be searching for a reason for your father leaving in YOU. One of the reasons you seem to explore for your father leaving was that It was something to do with you or your sister. If this is the case it may be causing thought of inadequacy, self doubt, and a constant need to prove yourself to yourself. Emotions that may accompany this could include guilt, shame, anxiety (esp social but not around people you are close with) sadness, and anger. In your life you may be expecting, demanding, and accomplishing in being an idea of a perfect man. You may have driven yourself insanely hard and take it unusually hard, with some of the mentioned emotions hitting really hard, if you occasionally didn't meet one of your insanely hard goals, or were not perfect or heaven forbid average. You may strive to be the perfect dad so hard that any mistake tears you apart. It is pretty probable IMO that you are successful. You probably have obtained a good education, working a decent profession with advancement goals, financially.. All the things society tells you are the ways to success, happiness.. You may have said shit.. I made it or am on my way.. I have arrived or will arrived!!! I am amazing, look at everything I've done. If this is the case.. you may also be wondering why your not as happy as you predicted, you MAY have some uncomfortable anxiety. With all you've done you may wonder why those underlying thoughts of doubt haven't disappeared?

Your fathers choice to leave is in no way a reflection on you. You and your sister are in no way to blame for this. There is nothing about you that caused him to make this decision. Because someone chooses to act like he doesn't love you does not mean there is something unlovable about you. You where amazing then and you are amazing now. Please stop trying to figure out what excuses, rationalization, crazy justification, reason he chose to do what he did. It really doesn't matter! He made a terrible mistake and there is never going to be any reason he can give you that will give you any peace. That's because there is no right answer for that question.

What I believe you need to do, AND THIS IS FOR YOU, NOT YOUR FATHER!!!! You need to forgive him. You need to flat out forgive him, realize there is no justification for his actions and forgive him.

If you are able to do this you will be amazed at the weight it lifts off of you. You are and have been carrying this pain for so long, if you can forgive him without any reservations you will be set free of that part of you that is tearing you apart. It may be one of the hardest things you ever do but you need to dump all that pain your carrying because of another's terrible mistake. Also if you have severe reservations about forgiving a man that has chosen to ignore/blow off/screw up all the opportunities you have given him to begin to make things rite please AT LEAST CONSIDER this... from what I've read you seem like a strong man, and the apple doesn't usually fall far from the tree.. please at least consider the possibility that your father made that huge mistake all those years ago and has not been able to confront that mistake. His mistake may be killing just as much as it does to you. even with you offering these paths to reconciliation, he may not be able to face it, after all there is nothing he can say to you that will justify his actions. If you forgive him and tell him that you have done this it may just open up the walls he has built and reinforced around the pain he has because of his choice. If this is the case please be aware that this pain may be to big and something he chooses never to confront. If you forgive him and tell him it will set you free and may allow him to begin to become a part of your life again. you may not even want this.

If any of the things I said about following all the stuff people/society tell you is the path to success then I would look at this. In order to get where YOU are ment to go you need to listen to YOU. By following what was convincingly sold to you as the correct golden path to happiness you may have unknowingly, and with the greatest intentions, placed there values above yours. You may not have even paid attention to you values, trusting in those other values that are dangled in front of us as the golden ticket to life. Figure out what is the important things in life for YOU, in other words you values. Then begin to live your life getting what you value. Climbing the bs corporate ladder in the rat race to buy all kinds of garbage, that doesn't make you happy, working more and harder for occupational prestige and flaunting wealth in order to convince others and most importantly yourself that you are not wasting huge portions of your life is a long unsatisfying road. The reality is, working a job you despise is not part of life and if i'm not happy with all the stuff/money/status then it just doesn't exist is something someone who has wasted their life in pursuit of these things says to comfort themselves and six weeks of vacation and all the money in the world to spend on those vacations doesn't make up for slaving a job you despise. Figure out what you love and wok at doing that for things that you love. You already know where to go, FOLLOW YOUR HEART IT KNOWS where its going, you have to listen because sometimes it whispers but sometimes it screams. Buy identifying whats important to you and following your heart the anxiety will go away. Anxiety is the way WE tell OURSELVES that we aren't living the way WE want to. Once we identify whats important to us, and follow our heart, then all we have to do is believe in our heart. Once you realize that what you value is ALWAYS rite then you will no longer subconsciously need the approvals of others, hence your social anxiety will disappear.

Courage is all it takes,
forgive him, you can and will loose only what you don't need..
listen to your heart, loose any fear its always got you and all yours covered.
You will find yourself and if YOU CHOOSE, possibly someone you lost.

Very Best wishes..



First I must say variations of your opinion comply, some of which are spot on. Some are very far from my description. The truth is my education lacks more than I'd care to admit. The last grade I successfully completed was the eighth. This is one of the most regretful and most personal issues I can attribute to myself. The fact of the matter is, I am naturally intelligent. In all actuality I teach myself much better than anyone else ever could.

Despite this lack thereof in terms of education some how I have managed to become exponentially successful fiscally. I acquired 20k from my mother when she sold our family home following her divorce from my step-father.

I took 15k and I invested into a stock option (GMC) I liquidated my equity 2 years later for well over 200k. I guess I am inadvertently perspicacious more so in Actuarial Analytics. That or maybe I am just superfluously lucky.

I then developed an Investment Firm. My firm and I purchase shares into companies that intrinsically have value but lack the essential elements required to become lucrative. I utilize my liquidity to opinionatedly pursue them to conduct my ideas. I do so by substantiating myself via my undoubtable ability to manipulate the man in question that and my capitalistic mindset. Probably most importantly the reoccurring success I've managed to acquire frequently. I just don't lose often.

Truth be told, I'm articulate, in fact I am so pedantic to the degree that the typical individual cant adequately adapt to my verbiage, not that they are unable or unintelligent, they just have no reason to do so otherwise, the internal arduousness is unnecessary- I know this.

It's strategically my way of reassuring I'm willing and able. Not to mention it sounds perfectly punctual not only in a literary aspect but more importantly in effectively seeming conducive to succession. It just works for me.

I'm not assuming these people are colloquial, honestly I'm just an excellent salesman, especially at selling myself. With flawless tenacity I serve these golden dreams on silver platters. I do this to women, businessmen, I do it to whomever conveys an underlying qualifiable utility that I feel I'm able to capitalize on or utilize to acquire equitable exchange. Anything one holds that may have value to me, I try and cut into it.

I am strong this is true, for my life has demanded this of me. Otherwise I would never had made it through the fire. I can't begin to explain to you the significance of that mans absence. My mother is the most stabilized individual I know. My whole life she has made shit happen. Despite the static inevitability ascribing her failure she still managed to defy all of the odds against her. She did this without assistance from anyone. That's how I learned to survive no matter what.

In conclusion I can appreciate your response simply because overall it was sincere. If you were a girl or I personally knew you I'd pursue your interest instantly. It was a heartfelt and meaningful answer something of that nature speak large volumes effortlessly.

Adversity presented itself in my life more often than the average individual would ever encounter. The fact of the matter remains, a man so careless and inconsiderate has no place in my life. Ultimately his actions or the lack thereof to act is unforgivable. I do appreciate such a lengthily and considerate response. It was most definitely considered, although I am never going to forgive him I can rest in the fact that others and people such as yourself do believe that there is light at the end of the tunnel. In turn this inspires me to feel and somewhat bring me in correlation with your statement. I too possibly will find that illumination that forever has always felt so mythological prior to reading your replication. Now I truly believe it could be realistic.

Thank you
ABM
 
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Is this a letter you intend to send, or one that you wrote in order to vent the raw emotions that must accompany being abandoned by someone in your life who should have been there for you as you grew up, but one that you are not going to end up sending?

I think it is honest and from the heart, as was mentioned.
If I had to give you my honest feedback, it would be to re-write your words in a slightly less accusatory and vindictive way. Do away with the curse words and the vents of frustration, and write honestly from there.

I think that, by doing so, you will be much more likely to garnish a response from this man - if, indeed, this is what you hope for.
But by being less accusatory with your words, you will open up a window through which he may feel more receptive to "hearing" those which that he will be reading, that you yourself have written for his eyes.

Good luck to you <3
I am sorry that you have had to deal with this disparity between reality and logic for so long in your life :(

Best wishes,

~ Vaya
 
I licked the envelope and sent it today. Truthfully I could care less if he reciprocated. It isn't something I would ever expect anyway. If it were me I would feel placed indefinitely by it. I want him to feel accused, above all I want him to feel the fire the fury within my words. I guess I will see soon...
 
On a side note TheStar I see more than glimmers of talent in your writing. I especially liked the "should I stay or should I go" piece.. You may want to explore and develop this talent. (possibly there is a good writers group where you are)
 
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Eh... pointless letter, IMO.

You're not going to change the guy. Just make him feel bad, at least for a day or two, until he's able to forget about the letter and move on.
 
^ It's not pointless. StarOnIR was able to get these thoughts out of their head and onto paper. This can be a very useful tool when trying to work through things. It was up to Star to send it or not and I don't think that changing him was the idea behind it.
 
My Mom is bat shit crazy neurotic and her intrusions were affecting us to the point that we finally asked if they might stay in a hotel when they come to to visit, instead of taking over our little house. This wasn't good enough, for them to get the message to give us some space, so I had to ask them to just please leave us alone. They did so, up to the point of only having my Brother In-Law call me the day AFTER my Dad had died a year ago (and he was dying for months, staying in their house, and then finally a hospice). The Absolute Final Fuck You. My Dad is the only one I got along with, so there wasn't much point in going to his funeral and I've not spoken with my family since.

I still have a wife and two dogs, they are my family now.
You have a real family, and are a lucky man.
 
OP, it's been a few days since the licking of the envelope. Have your thoughts towards the act of sending it changed at all in that time?

I'd be curious...

~ Vaya
 
Well I heard back from him, surprisingly.... I responded as well. If you'd like to see my response to his pelication to the letter. REQUEST IT.
 
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