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I moved to Israel to get clean.

Yes the red sea, I've swam there before. You said you live in south Israel, Eilat right? How is Israel these days? I was last there 15 years ago.
 
PhrostByte said:
i doubt it but maybe it'll help me finally grow up a bit. i saw a guy fishing yesterday. he was just sitting and chilling. with his line cast out into the red sea. he wasn't getting drunk or listening to music or anything because he was already at peace. i want to be able to sit like that too one day
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The key to getting there is appreciation of small things. I know it sounds trite but I have found it to be true and my life is so much the better for it. Just the fact that you observed that guy and made the observation that he was at peace and identified it as a place you want to get tells me you are on the right road.<3
 
eilat is alright i guess. its kind of strange behind here in the winter though. not much tourism. just us workers drifting aimlessly from place to place
 
i took acid for the first time in five years and danced all night at a rave. it was a lot of fun. its almost like there's a bad side and a good side. and i can't decide
 
Have you talked to any holy men there? Maybe the answer lies in exploring your spirituality. You gotta be persistent with a certain way of thinking, you can't just let your feelings be slaves to the whims of circumstance, aka: "oh hey a girl likes me today, life is great!" "....oh shit she doesn't like me any more, life sucks....." "...oh yay I did acid and it was fun, life is awesome!" "...oh shoot my job sucks, I hate my life...."
You gotta have your mind be grounded in something steady or else you are just going to keep going back and forth like this. The fact that you made a drastic decision like moving away and joining the army is proof of just how drastic your addiction problem is, you can't expect to make one decision and reap the rewards forever, you need to put work into yourself on a daily basis, work to resist the patterns of thinking that have gotten you to where you are.
Desire for instant gratification is a BIG problem when it comes to this type of emotional problem. You can't just do one thing and expect everything else to be better from it, you need to realize that slow and steady is the only answer. Why not get yourself a fishing rod and try that on for size? The fact that you mentioned that and that it caught your eye might be a sign.
Life is hard no matter who you are though. Try not to be hard on yourself, it's unnecessary.
 
i am trying. now that she left im not really worried about relationships anymore. im trying to take things slow. one day at a time. its hard though. my thoughts.are always racing. oh well. gonna go home and smoke a j now
 
CoffeeDrinker said:
Have you talked to any holy men there? Maybe the answer lies in exploring your spirituality. You gotta be persistent with a certain way of thinking, you can't just let your feelings be slaves to the whims of circumstance, aka: "oh hey a girl likes me today, life is great!" "....oh shit she doesn't like me any more, life sucks....." "...oh yay I did acid and it was fun, life is awesome!" "...oh shoot my job sucks, I hate my life...."
You gotta have your mind be grounded in something steady or else you are just going to keep going back and forth like this. The fact that you made a drastic decision like moving away and joining the army is proof of just how drastic your addiction problem is, you can't expect to make one decision and reap the rewards forever, you need to put work into yourself on a daily basis, work to resist the patterns of thinking that have gotten you to where you are.
Desire for instant gratification is a BIG problem when it comes to this type of emotional problem. You can't just do one thing and expect everything else to be better from it, you need to realize that slow and steady is the only answer. Why not get yourself a fishing rod and try that on for size? The fact that you mentioned that and that it caught your eye might be a sign.
Life is hard no matter who you are though. Try not to be hard on yourself, it's unnecessary.
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excellent post, you hit the nail on the head.
 
i guess i got over her pretty quickly. went out with a new girl two nights ago and hopefully another new one tonight. seems like almost every day there's a new one. still empty though. i need to quit all drugs. but its so hard and doesn't even seem worth it. some days Im so bored all i have to look forward to is my noon toke. or my mid-week dose of codeine. im going to try to hit up an NA meeting even though my Hebrew sucks
 
Group psychology

12 step meetings have been shown to work primarily due to the intricate group psychology. It's possible that if you do nothing more than talmid eh'ad, shney, shlosha banim days sober.. make a point to go to as many meetings as possible (as a rule), then you will naturally begin to self-medicate less. People will admire your dedication and determination to really getting this, and confidence follows. Of course, focus is on the newcomer. If you get a sponsor you will have another opportunity to practice the Hebrew.

You probably know it takes a few months of being really uncomfortable before things seem "easy" on a day to day basis? Soon enough things will spiral upward the less dependence is there :D

I hear there isn't much of an addiction culture in Israel. I am in-like of someone from Israel (currently in the states), and he has never heard of NA or AA. He said some doctor (Jewish of course) came out saying that the addiction gene does not pass through in Jewish DNA. ..It's just what he said :) Who knows what kind of evidence is there, but my friend was illustrating the point that he does not see people get hooked on alcohol or drugs. That the biggest issue is club drugs, typically abused after IDF service...
 
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he's probably right. Im the only addict in the family. although its easy for me to quit cigarettes i can't stay off opiates for long periods of time
 
PhrostByte said:
he's probably right. Im the only addict in the family. although its easy for me to quit cigarettes i can't stay off opiates for long periods of time
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Hmmm I wonder if u still OK..or what's going on...write something to us......
 
Its interesting, I heard of a kid round my way, exact same age as you OP...he was hooked on opiates and then moved to Israel bout a year ago to help with sobriety...last I heard, he was sober still, doing something with a nightclub/bar/restaurant over there. He had an older brother also hooked on dope who got sober but I believe relapsed recently tho...

Anyway, I hope that everything is going OK for you...this kid I heard of seemed to be okay, at least better off than he was wen he was using here in the states, so there's hope for you and unless you are that kid, there must be something to moving out there that ppl find helpful. As unpleasant as things may be, at least your not hooked on dope anymore and that is great.

Keep it up man and goodluck in the idf
 
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