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Oil Painting by Rob Hefferan
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That oil painting is amazing... almost looks like a photograph.

As for that 9/11 shot... I still feel bad every time I'm reminded about that. I might live in the UK but I was almost 14 when it happened & I got home to see all the news footage. I might have been watching as tower two collapsed but I can't remember. I ended up watching all the coverage for about 2 hours until my Mum got home from work. I guess I was just at that age where I was starting to take note of the wider world & it was pretty harrowing to see all that.
 
Hiya Chatty, not used to see you in here :) you must be 7 years younger than me because I was 21 at the time.

I was literally shaking, watching the tower fall down. Those poor people. Ugh. I think it affected us all, even though it was in America because people all over the world worked there. I remember watching the News the whole of that week - and the New York mayor was really good that week, the way he just got in n got his hands dirty to help people.

Think that 9/11 changed the world in many ways n there's no going back.

Such an incredibly sad, sad , sad day! :(

Evey
 
You know, it never ceases to amaze me how people get caught up with all this conspiracy theory nonsense... were there things going on in the background & failings by the US government leading up to 9/11? Without a doubt, yes. Did they cause it, or allow it to happen in any way... No.

It goes without saying that false flag operations probably do exist in some form within the shady world of international espionage but do you even know how much planning would have had to go into 9/11? Someone figured it out once & it would have had to be in planning for a ridiculous amount of time. It's just not feasible that it was premeditated by the US government to the extent that a false flag operation would entail. There would have to be too many people 'in the loop' as well... it would have been impossible to cover up.

Geesh, I've suffered from paranoid delusions in the past but never have I believed in anything as convoluted as the 9/11 conspiracies.

Rant over.

*edit* - wrong thread for rants, I know :D
 
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Yup, that's how conspiracy theories start... :sus:

I watched programme once on how conspiracy theories start & are perpetuated... like the psychology behind them. Was quite fascinating.
 
This is my 21st day clean and I made my mom cry. I really resent being treated like an addict even though...y'know... I am. I spent the night out last night, I DID NOT get high, but I didn't want to discuss what I did. (My friend and I went to a meeting and watched The Wire...scandalous). The more she pushed, the more determined I was. I showed her my arms when she asked me too, no track marks because I HAVEN'T BEEN USING. I don't like feeling like I *HAVE* to talk about shit if I don't want to, and to be frank it sucks to be treated like you're still using when you're clean. Anyway, the conversation ended when she said, "I don't want to see you dead." and I could tell she was on the verge of tears. I heard her sobbing after she shut my door. I feel really bad but I don't feel like I was entirely wrong.

I just wanted to get that off my chest.
 
Yeah it sucks to be treated like an addict when you're not using, but at the same time I understand... your mom is just terrified and probably feels completely powerless. It took my loved ones a while to feel confident I was really done.
 
you're right and I'm not completely oblivious to that. But at the same time I am not going to forsake all privacy. In this case I wish I had though because it ruined my Sunday. I still feel terrible, but I don't want to bring it up / apologize. Because I'm not exactly sure what I'd be apologizing for... not using dope in general, because I already did that. I feel like a real piece of shit though.
 
you're right and I'm not completely oblivious to that. But at the same time I am not going to forsake all privacy. In this case I wish I had though because it ruined my Sunday. I still feel terrible, but I don't want to bring it up / apologize. Because I'm not exactly sure what I'd be apologizing for... not using dope in general, because I already did that. I feel like a real piece of shit though.

It doesn't sound like you're being asked to forsake all privacy....think about how your mum must be feeling. Seems like she is extending you the courtesy of living in her house and having the freedom to do as you like and all she asked in return was where you had been and what you had been doing. Ask yourself why you didn't want to tell her? You're absolutely right, you don't have to talk about stuff if you don't want to, but why wouldn't you want to reassure her of what you had been doing? I'm not accusing you of anything, but don't let ego stand in the way of rebuilding the bridges that you may have burned in the past. It's a mistake I've made and have seen many others make too.

The both of you left that situation feeling like shit when it could have been one of the many steps needed to rebuild trust, and one thing you really don't need when you're trying to stay clean is feeling like a piece of shit. If you're anything like me that will pop up often enough without engineering more situations yourself. I may be totally wrong and you had a good reason for your actions, but to me it sounds like your ego just shat on both you and your mum, nobody won there. If you could have found it in yourself to swallow your pride and go along with what she was asking instead of refusing just because you feel you shouldn't have to, there's a good chance she would have been happy with your reply. She goes away happy and feeling that her kid is safe a while longer, you go away at the very least not feeling like shit for making your mum cry, but more likely actually feeling good because you're mending that relationship.

My assesment of the situation could be totally wrong, in which case please discount all of the above. Just don't let your ego stand in the way of doing what you need to do. Anyway sorry for getting all preachy.... :)



Came in here to have a good old moan but the above came out instead.8(
 
This is my 21st day clean and I made my mom cry. I really resent being treated like an addict even though...y'know... I am. I spent the night out last night, I DID NOT get high, but I didn't want to discuss what I did. (My friend and I went to a meeting and watched The Wire...scandalous). The more she pushed, the more determined I was. I showed her my arms when she asked me too, no track marks because I HAVEN'T BEEN USING. I don't like feeling like I *HAVE* to talk about shit if I don't want to, and to be frank it sucks to be treated like you're still using when you're clean. Anyway, the conversation ended when she said, "I don't want to see you dead." and I could tell she was on the verge of tears. I heard her sobbing after she shut my door. I feel really bad but I don't feel like I was entirely wrong.

I just wanted to get that off my chest.

I can totally understand how you are feeling. However, try to see it from your Mams point of view. She 's froghtened of losing you, of finding out you've died. You know that you were safe n not high but she doesn't n was probably worrying all night long.

Please don 't think I'm judging you as I'm not, honestly.

Congrats on 21 days clean. That's ace.

Evey
 
my girlfriend jokingly told me shes pregnant over the phone earlier tonight....
holy faurkkkkkkKk!!!!! thats one way to get my heart pumping through my chest!
she was joking *phew* sick joke.
 
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