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I just completely "OVERAMPED" on crystal?-Help

Siccness909

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Ok so basically been up3 days and I've done likeTWO GRAMS past few days. ANYWAY I did so much last night that I just felt overstimmed and eventually this morning I thought I was having a heart attack, my pupils were slightly dilated....and I felt this sort of calm psychosis clarity state? My pulse actually decreased and I felt CALM?!?! I've ODd before but not like this iI don't get it
 
I would try to get some rest, fluids, and food if you can stomach it (but do try to get something light down!). Of course sleep is ideal, but relaxing may be more probable and still very helpful.

Also, do you have access to any anxiolytics or possibly even BP medication?
 
Hows alcohol? I generally not safe mixing uppers and downers but that's really only comedown remedy I use...this state I'm in iis so weird I'm calm in this psychosis state sort of but everythings in full focused clarity? I look like I've GAINED weight to over past few day binge and I definitely had lost weight but now it looks like I gained it back?!?! WTF
 
Other GABAergics (like Klonopin, Xanax, etc) would be preferable, but alcohol can work in a pinch.

That and sleep.
 
i obviously can only give so much advice / help whatever from where im standing...

but heres a couple things for ya...

- first, your description of the state that you're in reminds me of something that my ex-girlfriend experienced one night at the end of a long spun out weekend. our conclusion was that she may have had a minor seizure or something (prior to the "clarity" you're experiencing right now_, but the one thing we were sure of was that she had found her limit. she needed rest, and I watched her as long as I could to make sure that her vitals and everything were good.

- second - your mind is racing. even if there is "clarity", think about it, people use amphetamines to study and get through school. so you didnt really gain weight, and at the end of the day you probably really arent thinking that straight... you are just on

- third - i brought up those medications because depending on what is available - that is likely what they would give you at the hospital or in a treatment center to help you come down. obviously you don't want something that is going to stop your heart but something to calm your mind and your body might be a godsend
 
I've ODd in a sense before but nothing like this, it feels so fucking unhealthy right now...my blood pressure is through the fucking roof right now all my vveins are popping out i ffeel extremely tiredtired...luckily I got my heart rrate in check and breathing in control now...but still this shits ridiculous

Should iI be concerned. About a heart attack in my sleep etc? Its been 6-7 hours since my last dose
 
A warm shower has always helped me as well.

Edit: It will certainly help with the vasoconstriction.
 
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warm shower. benzos. LIQUIDS. maybe a bite to eat if possible (though i wouldnt smoke weed or anything to get there).

Do you have anybody closeby?
 
Benzos YES I would i had some how about aalcohol though? Id assume no but im not sure

But no unfortunately I don't, just me all night...I hope a psychosis doesn't manifest to make matters worse

I think honestly only good thing to come of this is that by ssome miracle i feel tired So maybe I can end rthis binge quicker than i had thought
 
You ended up over doing it at the end of day #2, after not sleeping for 2 days.......your body & mind ate telling you this isn't good on what you're doing to yourself.

I've had this clarity from X after having a sex marathon with my gf & not sleeping for 2 days ....it was weird. I got to the point where I wasn't tired anymore, like getting my 2nd wind......& this crystal clear tunnel vision I was having was wacky.

I didn't know about benzos back then, wish I did, because after finally getting sleep off & on, I felt terrible for a month or two, last time I ever touched X again.

Get yourself some Valium or xanax......take it easy.....eat light foods & drink plenty of water & juices.
 
As someone else already stated, if you have no access to benzos alcohol could do the trick, just dont overdo it(ive heard many report alcohol not having much effect while under the influence of amphetamines). Really though if you're already tired, I'd suggest just sticking to the rest of the advice here: Warm shower, light food, fluids, and finally sleep.
 
Cool appreciate all the help so far guys

Another question though, how dangerous is vasoconstriction? Mine is pretty severe at the moment , shit I can barely see or feel my veins right nnow in my hands..

I want to walk to the store To get vodka but i feel this moment of clarity feeling will quickly manifest into a psychosis if I even dare step foot outside so I'm trying to see if I can go fast but idk lol
 
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Cool appreciate all the help so far guys

Another question though, how dangerous is vasoconstriction? Mine is pretty severe at the moment , shit I can barely see or feel my veins right nnow in my hands..

I want to walk to the store To get vodka but i feel this moment of clarity feeling will quickly manifest into a psychosis if I even dare step foot outside so I'm trying to see if I can go fast but idk lol




How dangerous? well to put it bluntly could have a massive stroke or Heat attack. Not sure of your age but if you have any plaque in your veins you could also have a pulmonary embolism. If your really that worried and trust me when I say, your body will tell you when something is wrong. its called [FONT=Georgia, serif]"sense of impending doom" I was a Paramedic x 25 years. Every patient that told me they were going to die...Did. Better safe than sorry, I would go to a emergency room for help. Best of luck to you though, hope it all comes out OK.[/FONT]
 
Yeah, you are probably just pretty over-amped, ntm physically and mentally exhausted after 3 days up and on meth....personally, I would recommend clearing your schedule of anything you possibly can, and spending the next day or so recovering. Others have suggested alcohol, and it can help, but honestly if you are feeling a lot of vasoconstriction and general dysphoria, it might be best to just let yourself come down without adding any more drugs to the mix. The last thing you want is nausea from drinking, and/or a hangover in a few hours. Just saying:)

Your best bet is fluids, some light/easy-to-digest food, and rest. Watch some netflix and even if sleep isn't an option yet, let your body recharge. Remember, you are on a drug, any bad feelings or panic WILL PASS when the drug leaves your system. Take it easy on yourself and whatever you do, DON'T do more meth.

Oh yeah, and I'm not a doctor or anything, so can't comment knowledgeably on the dangers of vasoconstriction, but one thing I have found to help is a long warm bath and putting on some warm socks. Sounds silly but it always helps me at the tail end of a meth binge. GL.
 
You really don't just drop dead of a heart attack or your brain melts in a stroke from just smoking one hit like people seem to think. In reality, you simply cannot OD on meth unless you have some pre-existing health condition. Me and my friends have went through literally dozens of points in multi-day binges, that's 1.2 to 2.4 grams easily between us both, and we don't die, despite having done it way too many times and got bloodwork, heart rate, ECG, etc scans regularly and everything is in surprisingly nearly perfect condition, at the very least, averagely good.

If you took like a few grams at once you'd probably vomit or pass out depending how you took it. But seriously, people seem to think it works additively, which is a huge myth. IT is not like for every 100 milligrams you take your heart rate goes up so many points, so a bunch would make it beat so fast it would stop. No, in reality the heart rate, sweating, grinding of teeth, etc, are all just side effects, and while a higher dose might make them worse, some people might not even get them at any dose, and people overstate how much dosage matters with something like a stimulant. 100 milligrams or 400 isn't going to be much different. Once you are spun there's a limit to how spun you can get before it simply doesn't do anything else.

I'm not suggesting you use this to take as much as you want, because you might die from dirty dope or simply go psychotic, but in reality, meth simply doesn't kill people this way. It isn't like heroin or booze where there's a lethal level that makes your heart explode, no, it instead does the same as alcohol, it poisons your bloodstream if there's too much which can kill you from any kind of complication.

My advice to you is do much less and wait 10 minutes or even an hour between hits, as a meth addict on a binge, time goes so fast there's no excuse to not space it out and gauge how you feel. Since the stuff lasts so long, too many junkies go crazy at once and get too spun... sit back and toke on the pipe slow like you'd savour a fine wine, or needle only a bit, snort small lines, etc.
 
You really don't just drop dead of a heart attack or your brain melts in a stroke from just smoking one hit like people seem to think. In reality, you simply cannot OD on meth unless you have some pre-existing health condition. Me and my friends have went through literally dozens of points in multi-day binges, that's 1.2 to 2.4 grams easily between us both, and we don't die, despite having done it way too many times and got bloodwork, heart rate, ECG, etc scans regularly and everything is in surprisingly nearly perfect condition, at the very least, averagely good.

If you took like a few grams at once you'd probably vomit or pass out depending how you took it. But seriously, people seem to think it works additively, which is a huge myth. IT is not like for every 100 milligrams you take your heart rate goes up so many points, so a bunch would make it beat so fast it would stop. No, in reality the heart rate, sweating, grinding of teeth, etc, are all just side effects, and while a higher dose might make them worse, some people might not even get them at any dose, and people overstate how much dosage matters with something like a stimulant. 100 milligrams or 400 isn't going to be much different. Once you are spun there's a limit to how spun you can get before it simply doesn't do anything else.

I'm not suggesting you use this to take as much as you want, because you might die from dirty dope or simply go psychotic, but in reality, meth simply doesn't kill people this way. It isn't like heroin or booze where there's a lethal level that makes your heart explode, no, it instead does the same as alcohol, it poisons your bloodstream if there's too much which can kill you from any kind of complication.

My advice to you is do much less and wait 10 minutes or even an hour between hits, as a meth addict on a binge, time goes so fast there's no excuse to not space it out and gauge how you feel. Since the stuff lasts so long, too many junkies go crazy at once and get too spun... sit back and toke on the pipe slow like you'd savour a fine wine, or needle only a bit, snort small lines, etc.


Sorry but I cannot agree with your logic or lack of it. this article is from a well know cardiologist. I can provide the link if you wish. just PM me...


[h=3]Crystal and the heart[/h]The heart helps to push blood around the body because this organ is a muscular pump. Crystal meth speeds up the pumping action of the heart and raises blood pressure. Both of these effects strain the heart and blood vessels.
As the heart beats faster and for prolonged periods because of crystal meth, it requires more oxygen. But this drug can shrink the size of arteries, which transport oxygen-rich blood to the heart. A heart that’s forced to pump faster without enough oxygen can become damaged. Crystal meth can also increase the chance of blood clots spontaneously forming. If sufficient clots appear and begin to stick together, they can block blood vessels. As a result of all of these negative cardiovascular effects, sometimes crystal meth users can develop chest pain, rapid heart beats and, in some cases, heart attacks and stroke. Although these extreme results are not common in the short term, the effect of repeated use of crystal meth is to pave the way for future heart disease.
 
Sorry but I cannot agree with your logic or lack of it. this article is from a well know cardiologist. I can provide the link if you wish. just PM me...


Crystal and the heart

The heart helps to push blood around the body because this organ is a muscular pump. Crystal meth speeds up the pumping action of the heart and raises blood pressure. Both of these effects strain the heart and blood vessels.
As the heart beats faster and for prolonged periods because of crystal meth, it requires more oxygen. But this drug can shrink the size of arteries, which transport oxygen-rich blood to the heart. A heart that’s forced to pump faster without enough oxygen can become damaged. Crystal meth can also increase the chance of blood clots spontaneously forming. If sufficient clots appear and begin to stick together, they can block blood vessels. As a result of all of these negative cardiovascular effects, sometimes crystal meth users can develop chest pain, rapid heart beats and, in some cases, heart attacks and stroke. Although these extreme results are not common in the short term, the effect of repeated use of crystal meth is to pave the way for future heart disease.

I don't care how "well-known" or respected someone is, it does not make their claim automatically true.

Even your example shows that heart attacks and strokes happen "pave the wave to future heart disease". Even the statement "these extreme results are not common" is mis-leading, because not common means in reality, the only people who can physically even get a heart attack or stroke from short term use are those who have underlying issues that make their arteries clogged, shrunk, already a diseased heart, etc, not someone in healthy levels. To give an example to compare it to, a brand new vehicle that is properly inspected doesn't just randomly break down after a short drive, no, if it does, the vehicle's engine had problems that were not detected.

As for the long term effects of crystal meth use? I've personally known users who are heavy users for over a decade who still have normal levels of heart health and blood pressure, which leads me to believe that there is no correlation. It is important to remember that even though it does restrict the arteries, they do in fact, begin dilate after short term use, it isn't a process where every time they become more and more constricted. There are even medications which can cause the arteries to dilate, which could be used if it were a serious problem.

Something as a simple as aspirin virtually negates the problem of blood clots spontaneously forming in short term use, and usually crystal meth users who develop chest pain, rapid heart beats, and other such sensations are those who actually are experiencing panic attacks or anxiety, and associating these sensations to the drug only leads to this problem worsening with each use, leading to hysterical reactions and ER visits for no reason.

As for the heart getting "damaged" from not enough oxygen, seriously? Then all runners and sprinters should drop dead of heart attacks after short term running, long term ones would be even worse than long term meth users. What about panic attacks or anxiety being damaging to the heart?

How about the military that combines regular amphetamine use AND intensive cardiovascular exercising with the resistance training of carrying heavy gear, in situations of high temperature?

Puts it into a new light, I think.
 
Sorry but I cannot agree wivasoconstriction

h your logic or lack of it. this article is from a well know cardiologist. I can provide the link if you wish. just PM me...


[h=3]Crystal and the heart[/h][CSiccness909

LOR=#333333]The heart helps to push blood around the body because this organ is a muscular pump. Crystal meth speeds up the pumping action of the heart and raises blood pressure. Both of these effects strain the heart and blood vessels.[/COLOR]
As the heart beats faster and for prolonged periods because of crystal meth, it requires more oxygen. But this drug can shrink the size of arteries, which transport oxygen-rich blood to the heart. A heart that’s forced to pump faster without enough oxygen can become damaged. Crystal meth can also increase the chance of blood clots spontaneously forming. If sufficient clots appear and begin to stick together, they can block blood vessels. As a result of all of these negative cardiovascular effects, sometimes crystal meth users can develop chest pain, rapid heart beats and, in some cases, heart attacks and stroke. Although these extreme results are not common in the short term, the effect of repeated use of crystal meth is to pave the way for future heart disease.

Seriously dude??! I'm all for harm prevention and if all signs point to a life threatening emergency then of course the person at risk needs to be told to get to an ER now etc BUT reply this will only cause further anxiety to poor Sicknesss909!
Getting yourself seriously fucked up for days on crystal with little or no sleep isn't wise or healthy and of course it comes with risk, but what they've described will be cured with sleep, food, hydration and laying off any drug for at least a while! Unfortunately I speak from experience.
My veins become impossible to see after a big binge too. vasoconstriction is caused by meth but it doesnt mean instant death! Geez!
 
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