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I have really short LSD trips.

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greenk

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Hey guys,

The last several times I've taken LSD it seems like my trips are over soon after I peak. It's really strange. My most recent experience I've had I feel like I was only tripping for about 4 hours:

I dosed, 2 hours later went to jam with some friends (which was awesome btw) for about 2 hours. After that I felt like I was pretty much down. I was still getting some slight visuals and some trippy thoughts, but I felt largely sober.


I don't believe dose has much to do with it, since I do trip fairly hard. I just want my trips to last longer, because 'cid is pretty expensive, but more so because it's fucking awesome and I want it to last the 6-8 hours it's supposed to.

Any ideas? I did take 50mg of 5-HTP the night before the trip to boost serotonin levels. It was only 50 milligrams and I took it around 18 hours before I dosed, so I can't imagine that would cut my trip short. This is also a reoccurring experience, as I've had about 3-4 LSD trips cut short.
 
I havent touched psychedelics in years, but I have 5-6 years of steady experience with L - and the shortest duration I can remember tripping for is maybe 8 hours? Most trips still had pretty itense visuals after 3-4 hours, and the mindfuck would last until I passed out finally.


Maybe your getting a research chem that is similiar to L? I dont know whats going around these days in that department.
 
Where do you usually take your LSD? Remember when it comes to LSD set/setting are everything. I've had that feeling before, you'd be totally floored laughin and see colors and movement, then all of a sudden. BAMM done. I wasn't in a place I felt comfortable at so that could of killed my trip.

Also, are you on any prescription meds? Anti-depressants can really mess up your trip
 
I've had a couple experiences like that, and now that I think about it I was in an uncomfortable environment both times so that may have had something to do with it, but before it happened this last time one of my friends took the same acid, and I know I'm not in his shoes but I was with him and it was a kick back setting, but his trip was very short like mine a few days later with the same acid. Prior to today my hypothesis was that the acid underwent some degradation from heat and sunlight
 
Are you on any medication?

What form was the LSD taken in?

Did anyone else take it with you, and if so, how long did it last for them?
 
ill second the smoke lots of weed idea, always works for me. also try not to concentrate too hard, my acid trips always shorten when i start trying to focus on reality too much. this is usually brought about by uncomfortable settings, or settings where you have to perform tasks properly in reality, like if you were playing instruments or something. not that i dont think acid makes it more fun, but that concentrate tends to snap you out of a trip and bring you back to reality quite a bit sooner than normal.

EDIT: this used to happen to me a lot before i was comfortable with letting it flow. i am assuming that the people you were playing with werent tripping, and if this is true its probably part of the cause? especially if you haevnt tripped that often.
 
Well it sounds like you are talking about the peak and plateau being cut short

Have you thought about redosing at about T+2:00 ?

It's weird because it almost sounds like you either have another compound instead of LSD or your metabolism is atypical. Do other people besides you have the same problem with that batch of acid? Everyone's body works differently....

I also advise you to check the set & setting see if that has anything to do with it. A sudden change or shift can kill or instigate a trip out of nowhere...
 
I've noticed significant differences in trip length between people (same batch, same dose), but I've never met anyone who tripped for less than 8 hours if they took enough to call it a trip. This one guy could always sleep after about 8 hours of tripping, while it always took me 14 hours or more. We usually took the same dose from the same batch, so it was really down to individual differences. Anyway, 4 hours is short enough to wonder if it actually was acid. Like other posters asked before me: what were the reactions of others who have tried the same batch?

Another thing about acid: It took me quite some time to learn to appreciate the part of the trip after the peak. Nowadays I love the second half because you can really work with your new perception. But the first ~10 trips I was just dissapointed when the peak faded. Next time, mind set & setting and trip with someone you deeply trust. When the peak is gone, get comfortable and talk about fascinating stuff. Concepts like religion, infinity etc... are always trippy.
 
I think after the peak your body starts to be able to work with the acid, not be overwhelmed by it. Sometimes I start to feel sober, but when I go to the bathroom to piss and look in the mirror, my pupils are still huge. Then the toilet water gets all swirly and I start laughing, yup, it's still there.
 
again - any pills of any kind? because i learned the hard way - i searched for weeks and got a nice little dose of liquid - all i got was a slight spacey feeling like i wanted to sit still in the dark for a while.. i learned the next day that my meds - Zyprexa - completely cancels out the effects of LSD, shrooms, etc.. maybe that's good if you're undercover and you have to eat shrooms to get in with the eco terrorists - but, for me it means i have to stop taking my meds for a day or two in advance of ever takin psychs..
 
Hey,

Sorry for the late response. As far as medication goes, I don't take any. It may very well be some compound that isn't LSD, but there are no real indicators of that being the case (ie long onset, metallic/bitter taste, etc) and the effects seem to be pretty LSD like given my other experiences (including encountering some mystery chemical, likely some DO_ chem).

These hits are dropped on sweet tarts. I took two of them this last trip. The guy I got them seemed to be cool in my book, so I'd be surprised if they were some RC.

On the subject of metabolism, I think I may have an atypically fast rate of metabolism. I am very skinny, and other drugs don't really affect me at typical recreational doses (mostly pills: somas, opiates, etc), and smoking weed gets me high for about 30-40 minutes before it settles into a slight buzz. I sober up pretty quickly from alcohol too.

Assuming that I do have an overly active metabolism, would that even influence the length of an acid trip? It seems that mechanisms that LSD work on are 100% in the brain, and metabolites of LSD are inactive, right? It's not like eating weed brownies, where the THC is metabolized by the liver into a more potent psychoactive.

I have shared one hit of this batch with a friend who took along with a hit from another batch, so it's really impossible to tell if my LSD was active when my friend said he was still tripping long after I had come down nearly completely.

I wonder if I just get acclimated enough that after the peak I don't really notice the effects. During this last trip that I keep referencing I went to Steak and Shake (Oh god never go there. Apparently their definition of cheese is nacho cheese sauce, nothing like having an already disgustingly greasy burger actually DRIP cheese all over you! Gah! 8(). I went there around 6 hours into the trip. I could discern auditory distortions when listening to their shitty music they play there, and if I focused I could still see some visuals, but I had to focus on producing these visual and auditory effects. If I didn't deliberately concentrate on the music to hear frequency shifts, or the text on the menu to see the words wobble, I would feel pretty much entirely normal.

Is this normal? Am I expecting an intensity level too high for 6 or so hours into the trip? Perhaps I am!
 
"Am I expecting an intensity level too high for 6 or so hours into the trip? Perhaps I am!"

I think this may be the case, even on high doses I don't get many visuals and after the peak things really calm down. I don't experience much mindfuck/loops or other things either. It's very possible the duration is shorter for you, or the liquid has degraded? But I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. There seems to be a pretty wide range of responses to this drug. But 4 hours seems way too low.

Just FYI, the hours after the peak, even if you don't feel much, can still be extremely important. I remember reading about this in a psychotherapy guide to LSD use from the 50's. The intensity doesn't really go away, your mind just gets used to the effects and is better able to control it.

I use this time to do meditation, listen to music, do artwork, and other things that allow me to go deeper and be more creative than normal. I usually smoke weed which may lengthen the trip, but even if I'm not feeling much I plan on staying awake and active for a full 10-12 hours after the effects kick in. The trip length is a minus to a lot of people, but I think fighting it and trying to do other stuff while still feeling the effects is a total waste. When this happens to me, like if my girlfriend goes to sleep early leaving me scatterbrained and exhausted, I have always felt really shitty lying in bed for hours trying to sleep or wasting time playing videogames or watching tv.
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

you talked about gaining control of the trip, and being able to get your visuals etc. back. maybe try getting some sort of external stimulus? or smoking weed. i always find a lot of clarity when im not tripping too hard, and its probably my favourite time to mull over what ive seen on the trip and discern what the contents may mean. the bits i can remember anyway.

by the time i have enough control to trust myself to walk into a restaurant tripping, i would feel completely sober when in the restaurant coz i wouldnt want to make it too damn obvious. upon exiting a darkened restaurant into bright natural light, i would most likely start tripping balls again. as an example.
 
g1zzl3 said:
Does this carry on for like 2 - 3 months?? Because it certainly felt that way with me
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What they meant in the handbook was a 12 hour trip, with the effects seeming to go away after 4-8 hours. This does not mean you are sober. Usually it's pretty clear to me when the peak is over and things calm down, but I am still tripping.

What you might be experiencing is afterglow or other effects. The OP I think is talking more about the 8-12 hour acid trip only lasting 4 hours. I'm sure some people on here can help you figure it out tho :)

edit: Here is the quote from the handbook I was referring to

"About five or six hours after you take the drug you will feel that the drug effects are largely gone and that the experience is over. This is usually not so, rather you have learned how to use the drug and it is in this period that we can exchange ideas with remarkable ease."

and the handbook, which is a must read IMO
http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/guides/handbook_lsd25.shtml
 
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