Heroin I have no veins, frustrated

[Pineappleexpress42]

I've looked for threads and solutions and I cannot find one. My problem is that I am a average male maybe slightly overweight young guy. It is very hard to find veins on me. I have only hit maybe 3 times and they were on the top of my hand near my knuckles which was my first shot. It was an experienced heroin user who had a very hard time hitting the veins even though you can see them. My veins "roll" bad and he said it was worse then most girls. I have hit in the inner elbow where you would give blood but it is very hard as I said to hit. You cannot see any veins accept my wrist which I am nervous about, would this be ok as any other vein or is their more risk? Would their be a vitamin or something I could take to make my veins pop? Also I don't always tie off but when I do it's not much help.

 

[Trying2Iso]

make your own thread on that, and no you wouldn't die. -Tommyboy

Also, OP, try drinking LOTS of fluids it will make veins bigger, and use a tourniquette and make a fist

 

[rld73]

Not to be a buzz kill.. but if you are having a hard time hitting veins then maybe IV isn't the route for you.. I had the same hard time you are having and have ruined my arms from missing shots etc.. they are probably scarred for life and I only used the needle for about 7 or 8 months.

As far as the other question.. mixing drugs is always a bad idea.. especially uppers like Adderall with a downer like alcohol.. I doubt you would die.. but it isn't totally out of the realm of possibilities. Depends on your body chemistry at the time of doing all that and how you spaced out the shots of vodka etc.. no one is going to be able to tell you 100% whether or not it will kill you.

 

[Pineappleexpress42]

Trying2Iso- I've done very similar, wasn't enjoyable was a very dark time in my life and actually tried to kill myself with that. I can't say if you would die or not but generally theirs not lots of reactions between the 3, personally I don't think I'd do 50mgs of addy and 6 shots and like rid said its about spacing. Don't mix shit, it wouldn't feel very good and isn't worth the risks.

Rid- yeah I've had quite a few people tell me that actually, but I've liked it so much better then snorting. If we had tar where I lived I'd have no problem. I've heard you can shoot into the muscle? But I'm not sure of rush/risk. Also plugging wouldn't really be my thing I doubt. Maybe here and their

 

[rld73]

Rid- yeah I've had quite a few people tell me that actually, but I've liked it so much better then snorting. If we had tar where I lived I'd have no problem. I've heard you can shoot into the muscle? But I'm not sure of rush/risk. Also plugging wouldn't really be my thing I doubt. Maybe here and their

If other people have told you and you are still here asking then you are going to do what you are going to do..

Here is what I did that worked for a while.. In the middle of your elbow joint there are 2 big veins.. if you are a big guy like me then you won't be able to see them but they are definitely there.. I found my largest one and used it over and over on both arms.. rotating each arm.. it isn't the best way to do it.. but if you can hit the exact same spot every time you can make yourself a temporary port of sorts.. like the ports they give cancer patients who receive tons of IV meds.. but this is a natural one that your body makes because it is used to the needle hitting the same spot over and over.

The only reason I even know about that is because a good friend of mine was a medic in Vietnam and afterwards got his RN degree.. and he taught me how to do it.. Of course after I fucked every other vein on both arms and got scars that haven't gone away even after stopping IV use for over 2 months.. I seriously suggest not trying to find the veins on your forearms and wrists.. they are the reason my arms look so bad.. I won't even wear short sleeves in public right now because I am ashamed of how bad my scars look..

 

[rld73]

Oh btw.. that port is supposedly only good for like 20-30 shots.. after that you have to give it a break..

Seriously tho.. if you aren't addicted yet (like you don't get sick when you don't shoot up) then I highly suggest you find another way to do this shit.. If I could go back in time 1 year I would slap myself and tell me never to even start the needle and get rid of the people that taught me how to do it heh..

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Have you read our IV megathread? It's got great info on proper technique that can make it easier.

Heavier people usually have a harder time, as their veins do not show. Are you using a tourniquet? Being as warm as possible also helps your veins pop.

IM'ing H isn't a good idea. There is no rush and it can easily lead to infection.. of course, so can missing IV shots, so if you continue to not be able to hit.. you should consider another ROA because you could end up really hurting yourself.

 

[Pineappleexpress42]

So will rectal give a rush? I know their Is a thread saying the doses but I was jw. Also I have powdered heroin think its called type 4 in Mass but I know smoking provides a rush but it doesn't last long and half goes to waste. Is their anyway to cook it like crack so I don't waste it? Lol

 

[Pineappleexpress42]

Please respond back I've been very curious about this for a long time know it sounds dumb but it would be awesome since I can't get tar

 

[BZboo]

Hey pineapple, try keeping the desired spot of injection warm, like a warm compress or try finding a vein afte a hot shower or bath. Also try doing a few pushups if you are planning on fixing in the arms, it also helps the veins bulge. I have difficulty registering a vein anywhere in my arms, but then top of the foot has proved easier! Good luck

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

So will rectal give a rush? I know their Is a thread saying the doses but I was jw. Also I have powdered heroin think its called type 4 in Mass but I know smoking provides a rush but it doesn't last long and half goes to waste. Is their anyway to cook it like crack so I don't waste it? Lol

Smoking east coast powder is a big waste unless you really know what you are doing. You are much better off snorting it. As far as plugging goes, it does provide a rush.. not quite like IV, but still.

 

[Tommyboy]

So will rectal give a rush? I know their Is a thread saying the doses but I was jw. Also I have powdered heroin think its called type 4 in Mass but I know smoking provides a rush but it doesn't last long and half goes to waste. Is their anyway to cook it like crack so I don't waste it? Lol

I think that I read that mixing it with something will prevent more of it from being destroyed, so search to see if you can find out what. Maybe it was caffeine, but then again that might have been for heroin base which you are not getting.

As for your IV problem, try lifting weights or doing it right after a hot shower when your veins show more.

I think the best thing to do is take a tolerance break or taper down, then stick to sniffing it to get high only 1-2x a week. That's the only way to sustain a habit without it getting too out of control. If you start IVing your tolerance is going to rise so fast, and you will have to dose a lot more a lot more often. It's only the first week or so that you will be able to get high off of less, and all it takes is a few binges before your IV tolerance surpasses your intranasal one, and then it's hard to switch back without a decent break.

 

[Pineappleexpress42]

Thanks for all the tips you guys. Yes, I have also read caffine. I think I will stick to sniffing because I haven't touched it in actually a month in a half or so. I definitely have limited funds and don't want to have to start stealing or any of that shit again. I just love the iv rush so much more but thanks everyone.

 

[Heisenburgers]

Personally I have great veins for shooting or when the doctor needs to draw blood. Everyone's veins are different but try the front side of your elbow (the crease), they tend to pop out more there. If you're still not successful there are plenty of other ways to ingest H

 

[InHerOwnWrite]

If you haven't touched h in over a month, just go ahead and snort it. It will def get you high and you won't have to deal with the hassle of trying to find veins, missing parts of your shot, building up a huge tolerance, etc. Stick to your recreational use, man... you'll really regret going down the iv route when you've fucked up the few veins you can currently use.

 

[dopemegently]

Sounds like a needle fixation to me. I've been there, and eventually had to stop because I had no veins, and I wasn't about to shoot into my femoral vein. The act of injecting can be a powerful compulsion in its own right, and very hard to break, but it can be done.

 

[bukweat]

Consider yourself fortunate. I haven't met anyone with a habit that can't look back and see switching to the needle as the point where the addiction became full-blown. You can chip a couple times a week. Smoke or learn to enjoy plugging as a roa.

 

[dopemegently]

Yeah, the marriage between needle and heroin is fucking unholy; once you're there, it's like a black hole - hard to escape.

I remember how obsessed with shooting I was years back, and it's kinda disturbing how single-minded it all was. When my veins were running out, I used to get "vein lust" from seeing people with healthy, bulging veins. Lol.

 

[Morphling]

Urgh. Yes, you have veins. Have your arms fallen off? Then I guarantee you that you have veins. End of.

Doesn't mean that they're convenient to hit. Don't go down the road of doing IM with street drugs tho, less you want gangrene.

Life sucks. Old junkie problems, isn't it. Well, we get there with a labour of love, don't you think? Price of being a dopehead.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

I always manage to be able to use my hands, except for the best vein I had, which is totally scared almost 2.5 inches on my left hand. But the corner betwen your thumb and index has a really easy to get vein most people never go for, mostly because it is hard to see at all, but once you know where it is, it's easy to register into it.

And I broke my promise-to-self not to read threads about IV'ing, it's quite the trigger, the whole chase of getting dilaudid/HM Contin, finally getting home, prepping my shot, seeing the register working, that yellow dilaudid solution going into me...it was almost as good as the out of this world rush it provides, I guess one can call it reward anticipation. Like when you were flunking a course in a semester so you decided to study hard as shit for the last exam to bring your average over the passing grade...and that moment of anticipation until you kicked ass with a 86% or something which brought you to 60% and made you pass.

I wish I can regain real life reward one of these days. The d-methadone in our north american racemic methadone is an NMDA antagonist and it somewhat reduced any sort of craving for artificial rewards. I don't even enjoy getting high on anything except a small amount of dexedrine + weed with my girlfriend, anything other and the REAL thorn in my side: benzos show up in the needing department even more than usual so yeah. That's what happens when you abuse, like not finding veins. Try finding an orally potent opiate, hell, even high dose CWE'd codeine would help me go through a day or two when I was out of dilaudid, 300-350mg of codeine, CWE'd from 222's (aspirin with codeine) works much better than the tylenol alternative (the aspirin really stays out better).

Only reason I became a daily user of needles at one time is because all I could get what hydromorphone, IR and ER. When Oxycontins were removed temporarily, my guy suddenly also couldn't get Oxy IR's 20mg (largest dose of IR oxy in canada available), when life takes a shit on you....Generic oxycontin even became available the day I came out of my 6 first days of methadone treatment inpatient start 8)