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Cocaine I have cocaine that was damp put it in oven now its yellow?
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Nicomorphinist
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Sort of an amber colour? If you have no concern about any cut being used, consider that cocaine hydrochloride and sulphate are not heat stable and a small fraction of it may have undergone some comparatively innocuous chemical changes, What was the temperature to which you heated the C-Jam? The heat instability is the reason that if one wants to smoke cocaine, they find a way to vapourise it indirectly like tapping Bolivian Marching Powder into a cigarette (maybe wasteful to an extent) or baking it into rocks of crack or getting their base by doing White Tornado.
Was there any smell to the damp Colombian Naughty Salt, especially chemical smell?
If you are aware of the bleach and about the dozen other improvised purity tests for cocaine and/or have a reagent test kit, trying out a little to see if anything dramatic has either happened at the chemical level in the oven or before you got the snow.
I have not seen this happen with cocaine, but it happens with exposure to light with a number of alkaloid-based drugs like hydromorphone HCl and does not affect potency . . . I am still researching that part of it, but my shot in the dark guess on this, maybe take it with a grain of C-Jam. is the effects of some very small level re-arranging of the molecule into other similar substances and/or the liberation of the acid from the base and some kind of recombination. Which I posit here to also solicit more speculation because I'd like to know too. My own GC/MS and HPLC experiments with a small amount of apple-juice coloured Dilaudid HP with an expiry date of 6. May 1990 did not really clear up my original questions about what happens to flexible and semi-flexible photosensitive molecules in this or that storage situation.
Was there any smell to the damp Colombian Naughty Salt, especially chemical smell?
If you are aware of the bleach and about the dozen other improvised purity tests for cocaine and/or have a reagent test kit, trying out a little to see if anything dramatic has either happened at the chemical level in the oven or before you got the snow.
I have not seen this happen with cocaine, but it happens with exposure to light with a number of alkaloid-based drugs like hydromorphone HCl and does not affect potency . . . I am still researching that part of it, but my shot in the dark guess on this, maybe take it with a grain of C-Jam. is the effects of some very small level re-arranging of the molecule into other similar substances and/or the liberation of the acid from the base and some kind of recombination. Which I posit here to also solicit more speculation because I'd like to know too. My own GC/MS and HPLC experiments with a small amount of apple-juice coloured Dilaudid HP with an expiry date of 6. May 1990 did not really clear up my original questions about what happens to flexible and semi-flexible photosensitive molecules in this or that storage situation.
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Well i normally just crush it and put a topper on my.bowl of weed.. but this burns like its candy. Heres what it looks like.. it was a lot more untill i put it in the oven
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Nicomorphinist
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The powder shrank in the oven? I am thinking that the lost volume and the colour are both due to whatever liquid that was -- was there an odour of any type? Does the candy-like burning actually result in some kind of carmelisation? Have you tasted a little of the powder, or do you get a new taste on smoking?
If you get it as a solid to crush, is there any chance the dealers or upstream suppliers may have used something like diluted Karo Syrup as a binder?
Nicomorphinist
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Fish scales as in crystals of a pharmacologically active (or not) cut or enhancer?
Given that you are heating a powder, and it did this, could this be some kind of sugar -- dextrose, sucrose, mannitol, lactose or the like? The yellow can be carmelised sugar. In essence, you have a nose candy 'smore then -- enjoy.
I am thinking the strong chemical smell could be one of the solvents or acids used in processing and was not totally removed, until you essentially boiled it off and it left a residue, which could be anything from non-cocaine in the coca leaf to cuts to other things. Does it smell like hospital smells? That could be benzene.
Given that you are heating a powder, and it did this, could this be some kind of sugar -- dextrose, sucrose, mannitol, lactose or the like? The yellow can be carmelised sugar. In essence, you have a nose candy 'smore then -- enjoy.
I am thinking the strong chemical smell could be one of the solvents or acids used in processing and was not totally removed, until you essentially boiled it off and it left a residue, which could be anything from non-cocaine in the coca leaf to cuts to other things. Does it smell like hospital smells? That could be benzene.
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Soo he basicly gave me candy? .. -.-
Nicomorphinist
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Any unusual effects that would suggest a pharmacologically-active cut?
A remote possibility is that a wholesaler or retailer of C-Jam was temporarily out of powder baby formula, a very common general-purpose cut for powdered drugs, and improvised a batch of cut by boiling down constituted baby milk and didn't get all the moisture out. The Karo Syrup theory is more remote still but fits the observations, I think . . .
A remote possibility is that a wholesaler or retailer of C-Jam was temporarily out of powder baby formula, a very common general-purpose cut for powdered drugs, and improvised a batch of cut by boiling down constituted baby milk and didn't get all the moisture out. The Karo Syrup theory is more remote still but fits the observations, I think . . .
No besides making my stomach hurt it didnt even get me high and i did a whole 50 bag -.-. Guess ill have to go see him see why he screwd me
Nicomorphinist
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I'm thinking confectioners' sugar as a cut, and the moisture could have been moisture absorbed from the air by another hygroscopic cut, conceivably even calcium chloride, the ice melter used for many other purposes.
I was thinking that by fish scales it could have been some kind of impure or obscure amphetamine salt but hadn't heard the term used specifically before. Or any of a number of other substances. Fish scale like crystals makes me think of nitrate salts of some obscure open-chain opioids, like dimenoxadol I think it was,, and pure ammonium nitrate, the blasting agent, and have not heard of it as drug slang, so that is my stab in the dark because I can't really think what else it would be. I'm sure they weren't cutting the coke with Anfo, though.
Nicomorphinist
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Maybe it was mannitol and/or sorbitol mixed with alcohol or benzene to give it the chemical smell. Mannitol and sorbitol are used as laxatives.
Zonxx
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No. Ive done this with a tiny amount for fun because i was fucking retarded, it didnt burn it per say but it started to. Im guaranteeing you lost quality, you should have put it on a spoon and ran a lighter under it ( not makin crack) but that dries cocaine realtively very well crack or wet cocaine, i spilled my glass of water on 4-6 grams once... spent an hour " spoon drying" being careful not to get it too hot but hcl cokes got a melting point of 300 degrees anyways let alone burn point BUT itll still degrade as its not really meant to be heated, pretty much all crack whether pro cooker like myself WILL slightly degrade the % even if i cook it with an ice cube after i hear the soda finish binding / my crack having the proper smell ( yeah im pretty fucking high rn) a common reccomendation is to microwave it but yeah fuck putting valuable product anywhere near medium+ heat itll only degrade... the BEST method not to lose quality if you wet your stuff by accident is to put it under a high voltage lamp, not too close that gives off a decent warmness, and leave it for 30-45 then its good to go usually, but for heavens sake never dry coke with anything other than a light or a spoon just ruining sweet sweet candy ( you may not notice the loss but it happened.)
Zonxx
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Good cocaine has a sort of i dont wana say sweet but a chemically sweet smell ( ive bought so much coke... ) and my current and now forever source ive grown to love the smell when i dump a bag on the spoon to cook and the mid cook smell/after cook, good and decent coke should always have a smell to it, no smell = shit or decently cut ps. I know alot bout smell cuz i go by smell to know if its done cooking or close to over cooking n losing quality but i smoke 20-40 g month soo i can only ASSUME ik what im talking about but ye and i dont need to how great that is, we're all adults that make choices mk
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Zonxx
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Just wondering... the fuck did u buy damp coke for lol. Id have opened it and dumped it on his car seat and walked away no offence though yo, but shit theres so many coke boys.. im sure if ya wanted to find a diff guy for that night itd have been easy i have like 4 coke numbers and i never even asked for them yet only one is god almighty
KS78
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Next time when it gets damp, try to warm it up on a teflon pan with very little flame on the stove. You can control it much better. Some people warm up a thick plate and just put their coke on that plate and cut up lines. By the time you get ready to inhale, it will be like talcum powder.
yellowfever
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Where can I get some decent stuff? My town is small, our local guy sucks, it's mostly baby laxative. My friends and I need help!!!!
MDPV_Psychosis
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Ask one of the officers ?
? at your local police station. I bet they know where all the good stuff is at.
Good luck.
? at your local police station. I bet they know where all the good stuff is at.Good luck.
GloomyElk
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Definitely a cut in your coke. Highly pure coke when warmed at low temperature in the oven will not change color. I can personally attest to this from various batches of at least triple washed product (acetone, ethanol and chloroform) dried in an oven for quicker evaporation (directly from Le Junk’s “bible”).
You should get a dry powder from the heating, and you will likely lose some overall product weight, but it should have the same essential color characteristics from when it went in. If you notice discoloration like the kind you described, it is indicative of something other than coke mixed in with your batch. If you want to get real fancy, Le Junk actually describes a method to take the oven heated coke and do basically a tapping on a paper plate that should separate the real flakes from any leftover byproducts and residue from the heating process. But I never have the patience or nerves to try to do this final extraction (too worried I’d be “tapping” away the good stuff), and just use the final “baked” product in its entirety.
You should get a dry powder from the heating, and you will likely lose some overall product weight, but it should have the same essential color characteristics from when it went in. If you notice discoloration like the kind you described, it is indicative of something other than coke mixed in with your batch. If you want to get real fancy, Le Junk actually describes a method to take the oven heated coke and do basically a tapping on a paper plate that should separate the real flakes from any leftover byproducts and residue from the heating process. But I never have the patience or nerves to try to do this final extraction (too worried I’d be “tapping” away the good stuff), and just use the final “baked” product in its entirety.
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Zonxx
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maybe next time he won't buy wet cocaine lol