I have a miserable cold. Will an opiod make me feel better?

[Psynaught]

I pretty much know the answer but like to check in here. I took 3 grams of Kratom which always helps a cold. I have pretty much everything, Fentynal, Oxy, Tramadol.

I last took an opiod 4 days ago (I only allow myself to take them every 5-7 days) but really feel like crap.

Which one should I take? I like to save the Oxys for having fun.

Posting on this forum helps me keep my use in check.

 

[ovo1024]

You said you have Fentynal right? What kind? Like do you have blues? (The M 30s)
Do you have Fetty (the Fentynal powder)
Or do you have one of the prescribed kinds? Once you answer this question I can give you the best answer. Since you also said you have oxycodone and Tramadol correct

 

[Psynaught]

You said you have Fentynal right? What kind? Like do you have blues? (The M 30s)
Do you have Fetty (the Fentynal powder)
Or do you have one of the prescribed kinds? Once you answer this question I can give you the best answer. Since you also said you have oxycodone and Tramadol correct

Yes, I have the blues (M 30). Oxy and Tram, correct. Just in time I feel like crap. Thanks.

 

[negrogesic]

I don't think the answer would ever be fentanyl, so knowing what kind of fentanyl won't really change the answer.

I'd start with the tramadol, particularly since the stimulating effects might pick you up a bit, and it won't impact respiration to a significant degree

 

[Psynaught]

I don't think the answer would ever be fentanyl, so knowing what kind of fentanyl won't really change the answer.

I'd start with the tramadol, particularly since the stimulating effects might pick you up a bit, and it won't impact respiration to a significant degree

OK, thanks. One thing I will tell you about Fentanyl, it is a great pain reliever. True, it is not nearly as fun as Oxy...and I know I have heard the thousand horror stories but for pain relief it is super effective.

 

[negrogesic]

OK, thanks. One thing I will tell you about Fentanyl, it is a great pain reliever. True, it is not nearly as fun as Oxy...and I know I have heard the thousand horror stories but for pain relief it is super effective.

It definitely is a great pain killer (which is why its often a first line treatment for severe cancer pain), but it doesn't sound like you're in severe pain, and fentanyl is probably not the best move if you have a upper respiratory infection.

Tramadol is mildly stimulating, might help with the lethargy, and doesn't suppress the respiratory system as much as the other opioids in your arsenal.

 

[Psynaught]

It definitely is a great pain killer (which is why its often a first line treatment for severe cancer pain), but it doesn't sound like you're in severe pain, and fentanyl is probably not the best move if you have a upper respiratory infection.

Tramadol is mildly stimulating, might help with the lethargy, and doesn't suppress the respiratory system as much as the other opioids in your arsenal.

Thanks, took one (Tramadol) and feeling a little bit better. It is a miserable cold. Last time I had a cold like this it turned out to be Covid. I've had Covid twice.

 

[Keif' Richards]

Hey @Psynaught

I highly recommend not using Fentanyl ever. It sounds like you have access to other, more reliable Opioids. Fentanyl will inevitably destroy your tolerance if you mess around with it. It will sneak up on you and once you're in it, it's extremely difficult to get out even relative to other Opioids. Think about that. You still are in a place where these other Opioids work for you, If you continue messing with Fentanyl, you'll quickly be at a point where only Fentanyl will work for you.

Yes, Opioids are effective medications for dealing with illnesses like the common cold, influenza and respiratory stuff especially i.e. Covid-19. Opioids in general relieve pain, mental and physical. In theory, taking an Opioid will make any person, in any situation feel "better". That's just what they do. It's why we all know and love them.

Most commonly used Opioids are powerful cough suppressants. Tuberculosis was a huge issue all the way up until antibiotics were introduced in the mid-20th century. People would basically cough up pieces of their lungs bit by bit as this disease progressed. Lung tissue would die and be coughed up. Also, Tuberculosis is spread through droplets from the lungs. This made Opioids very attractive treatment for the condition. It soothed their pain, helped them sleep and relieved their misery.

Until maybe ~25 years ago in the USA and ~10 years ago in Europe/Canada, cough medicines containing Codeine/Morphine etc. were common and available over the counter. Cough medicine might have Paracetamol, Codeine etc. They are actually very effective.

It's different for you when you have a tolerance to these things. However, I'm sure you'll feel better having taken an Opioid than not having taken one, but again. that's just how they work.

 

[Psynaught]

Hey @Psynaught

I highly recommend not using Fentanyl ever. It sounds like you have access to other, more reliable Opioids. Fentanyl will inevitably destroy your tolerance if you mess around with it. It will sneak up on you and once you're in it, it's extremely difficult to get out even relative to other Opioids. Think about that. You still are in a place where these other Opioids work for you, If you continue messing with Fentanyl, you'll quickly be at a point where only Fentanyl will work for you.

Yes, Opioids are effective medications for dealing with illnesses like the common cold, influenza and respiratory stuff especially i.e. Covid-19. Opioids in general relieve pain, mental and physical. In theory, taking an Opioid will make any person, in any situation feel "better". That's just what they do. It's why we all know and love them.

Most commonly used Opioids are powerful cough suppressants. Tuberculosis was a huge issue all the way up until antibiotics were introduced in the mid-20th century. People would basically cough up pieces of their lungs bit by bit as this disease progressed. Lung tissue would die and be coughed up. Also, Tuberculosis is spread through droplets from the lungs. This made Opioids very attractive treatment for the condition. It soothed their pain, helped them sleep and relieved their misery.

Until maybe ~25 years ago in the USA and ~10 years ago in Europe/Canada, cough medicines containing Codeine/Morphine etc. were common and available over the counter. Cough medicine might have Paracetamol, Codeine etc. They are actually very effective.

It's different for you when you have a tolerance to these things. However, I'm sure you'll feel better having taken an Opioid than not having taken one, but again. that's just how they work.

We have had the Fentanyl talk before my friend, remember? It was actually a long thread. I've had a bunch of it for quite some time now. I do appreciate the warnings you have given me which is why I am extremely careful with it. I have limited myself to about 3 pills a week for quite some time now.

It was this thread. Iv'e had it for 7 weeks now: https://www.bluelight.org/community...ed-fentanyl-need-advice.943172/#post-16169794

 

[Keif' Richards]

@Psynaught I know I'm a broken record. I'm 34 now and I've officially turned into an old person. This is pretty clearly reflected by how I approach the forums now compared to a decade or so ago when I first joined. I have a place in my heart for every one of you guys that I interact with here. I've experienced pain and misery. I've withdrawn in county jail for 27 days with nothing but tap water, a steel bed and a $100 bail constantly taunting me (my parents wouldn't do it and I couldn't remember anyone else's number).

So I know what it's like when things get totally fucked up. I believe that the use of psychoactive substances is inexorably linked to the human experience. I believe in the positive potential for all of these substances. I believe they can give us perspective, bring us together, get people out of their shell... that's why I'm still here even though I'm "sober" (I smoke weed, take Methadone, use psychedelics). Just because I fucked up and hit a wall doesn't mean that will be everybody's story.

When you think you know it all and have it all figured out, something like Fentanyl comes on the scene and causes you to reconsider everything. It consumes people so quickly and completely, every time I talk to people "experimenting" with it, my alarm bells start ringing. I tell people, do drugs, do any drugs you want, but stay away from the Fentanyl. I've just lost too many people. They're either dead or they are among the living dead.

I know I'm a broken record. Don't mind me

 

[Psynaught]

@Psynaught I know I'm a broken record. I'm 34 now and I've officially turned into an old person. This is pretty clearly reflected by how I approach the forums now compared to a decade or so ago when I first joined. I have a place in my heart for every one of you guys that I interact with here. I've experienced pain and misery. I've withdrawn in county jail for 27 days with nothing but tap water, a steel bed and a $100 bail constantly taunting me (my parents wouldn't do it and I couldn't remember anyone else's number).

So I know what it's like when things get totally fucked up. I believe that the use of psychoactive substances is inexorably linked to the human experience. I believe in the positive potential for all of these substances. I believe they can give us perspective, bring us together, get people out of their shell... that's why I'm still here even though I'm "sober" (I smoke weed, take Methadone, use psychedelics). Just because I fucked up and hit a wall doesn't mean that will be everybody's story.

When you think you know it all and have it all figured out, something like Fentanyl comes on the scene and causes you to reconsider everything. It consumes people so quickly and completely, every time I talk to people "experimenting" with it, my alarm bells start ringing. I tell people, do drugs, do any drugs you want, but stay away from the Fentanyl. I've just lost too many people. They're either dead or they are among the living dead.

I know I'm a broken record. Don't mind me

You are absolutely fine my friend and are 100% doing the right thing. Trust me, you scared the poop out of me and are why I am so super careful with the stuff.

I would rather be paranoid than hooked on the stuff, I believe you absolutely when you say it can destroy your life.

I do not mind you one bit!

 

[rideITout]

Hey @Psynaught

I highly recommend not using Fentanyl ever. It sounds like you have access to other, more reliable Opioids. Fentanyl will inevitably destroy your tolerance if you mess around with it. It will sneak up on you and once you're in it, it's extremely difficult to get out even relative to other Opioids. Think about that. You still are in a place where these other Opioids work for you, If you continue messing with Fentanyl, you'll quickly be at a point where only Fentanyl will work for you.

Yes, Opioids are effective medications for dealing with illnesses like the common cold, influenza and respiratory stuff especially i.e. Covid-19. Opioids in general relieve pain, mental and physical. In theory, taking an Opioid will make any person, in any situation feel "better". That's just what they do. It's why we all know and love them.

Most commonly used Opioids are powerful cough suppressants. Tuberculosis was a huge issue all the way up until antibiotics were introduced in the mid-20th century. People would basically cough up pieces of their lungs bit by bit as this disease progressed. Lung tissue would die and be coughed up. Also, Tuberculosis is spread through droplets from the lungs. This made Opioids very attractive treatment for the condition. It soothed their pain, helped them sleep and relieved their misery.

Until maybe ~25 years ago in the USA and ~10 years ago in Europe/Canada, cough medicines containing Codeine/Morphine etc. were common and available over the counter. Cough medicine might have Paracetamol, Codeine etc. They are actually very effective.

It's different for you when you have a tolerance to these things. However, I'm sure you'll feel better having taken an Opioid than not having taken one, but again. that's just how they work.

That was fascinating about TB, bits of lung tissue! and the then the antibiotics etc, do you know of any good book on its history?
And I just add we do get codeine products OTC, and with increased strength here in the UK.

 

[specialrelativity]

Does kraton really do anything for you?

 

[ovo1024]

Okay so since you have the blue Fentynal pills I recommend those, since you already have them I'm sure you know whether they are good or bad, etc I used to smoke between 20-25 of those pills every single day. And sometimes one of my dealers would have some that aren't very good, and would barely get me well. And then my other connect would have some pretty good ones.

 

[ovo1024]

Every time I'd pick up some blues, especially when I was sick, I'd put 2 pills on the Foil and smoke those quickly, and after I did that I'd know for sure the potency of that batch.

 

[ovo1024]

I don't think the answer would ever be fentanyl, so knowing what kind of fentanyl won't really change the answer.

I'd start with the tramadol, particularly since the stimulating effects might pick you up a bit, and it won't impact respiration to a significant degree

I'm guessing you don't have experience with Fentynal and only go by what you hear on the news about it, but it's really not dangerous it someone has an opioid tolerance already, and especially if they are using the pills and not the Fetty powder. I used to smoke 20 or more blues every single day. I'd smoke 4 or 5 in the morning when I woke up just to get well. And even then, it got me a little high but never anywhere near overdose potential or anything like that. I rarely even nodded. And I know for a fact the potency and quality was definitely good.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

 

[Psynaught]

I'm guessing you don't have experience with Fentynal and only go by what you hear on the news about it, but it's really not dangerous it someone has an opioid tolerance already, and especially if they are using the pills and not the Fetty powder. I used to smoke 20 or more blues every single day. I'd smoke 4 or 5 in the morning when I woke up just to get well. And even then, it got me a little high but never anywhere near overdose potential or anything like that. I rarely even nodded. And I know for a fact the potency and quality was definitely good.

Wow. No, I took 4 grams of Kratom and 1 Tramadol, that's it. I still felt pretty crappy. However I got 9 hours sleep and that pretty much cured my cold. I still have a little phlegm but am fine. I have been training (weights cardio) nearly 2 hours a day for 4 days straight. Working out is my addiction.

I only get high on Opioids once a week (or 5 days at minimum) and tonight (Saturday night) is my night. Fentanyl has not caused me to lose my family/become homeless, etc...but I would rather be safe than sorry. I take the old hands here very seriously. I paid 10 bucks a pop for the blues (they are good and consistent) and the financial impact of 20 a day would bankrupt me. I take the Fent because Oxy's are twice as expensive. 2 Fent and 2 Oxy are 60 bucks. Soma cost me $7. This stuff costs more than cocaine.

But tonight is my "party" night. I actually wanted to go out to a new club tonight but my wife was a drag and my best friend is going out with his girlfriend. Were that the case I would not have touched an opiod, would have done ecstasy instead. But I am stuck at home and will do the old "usual." Although I only use about every 6 days or so, I take 4 grams of Kratom 4-5 days a week and have a decent opiod tolerance. I am also 224 lbs.

I will start with 1 Soma, 1 Oxy (30 mg) and 1 M/30 fentanyl. I will notice this an hour later and then take another Oxy. Then an hour later 1 more Fent. I am pretty high by now. I might add another half Soma.

That is pretty much what I do, once a week (usually Saturday). I don't drink. I may add 1 mg of Xanax. Later on, before bed I will have an Ambien.

I don't get excessively high from this, just a nice solid buzz. It works great for me, especially since I am pissed at my wife for not wanting to go to, LOL.

I would trade the drugs for a hot 25 year old But those don't come around anymore at my age, 62, LOLOL.

 

[Psynaught]

That is a fantastic drug for colds/flu/pneumonia. Docs used to give it to me when I had Pneumonia. I think 3 times. The last time I had pneumonia was 15 years ago. I was suffering terribly. I had bad coughs and a terrible headache so bad I was throwing up.

My doctor at the time...Yale graduate, who I thought was great up until that point, denied me the drug and just let me suffer. It was absolutely horrible. It totally destroyed my faith in him and the medical industry. At that time I had never been high on an opiod in my life, I didn't drink or do any kind of drug whatsoever.

But that Mfucker just let me suffer. Despicable. That actually is what caused me to start stockpiling opioids, I was afraid of being in sever pain and not getting relief. Ironically, if I ever do get addicted to opioids it will be because I don't trust doctors.

 

[Psynaught]

Okay so since you have the blue Fentynal pills I recommend those, since you already have them I'm sure you know whether they are good or bad, etc I used to smoke between 20-25 of those pills every single day. And sometimes one of my dealers would have some that aren't very good, and would barely get me well. And then my other connect would have some pretty good ones.

How much did you pay for them? Not looking to source, just wondering if I got a fair deal on mine.