(purposefully not put in Recovery section, feel its biased)
So I am young (college), very healthy and athletic, and just want to have fun because I know I wont be able to do stuff (like oxy) later in life and its a great stress reliever from school (im a biomedical engineer, very stressful). Me and my gf have been taking the same amount of oxy (IR, blue/green shirts) for about 2-3 months now and here are some details:
-Never have taken more than 30mg a day (usually between 15 and 20, we share)
-Only take it at night once everything that needs to be done is done (usually before watching some premium show like Game of Thrones)
-Never taken it alone
-Take it maybe 5-6 days a week, sometimes go a couple days w/o if I feel tolerance has built too high
-Never mix it with other substances that will react badly (like alcohol)
Now here is where it started:
I wanted to quit before finals, so to avoid withdrawal symptoms, I was going to taper down. We agreed the day she got prescribed 5/325 percs (they are crap and kill you, i know, but not taking more than 2 at a time max) that she would let me have a few when I needed to not experience withdrawals. She took about 6-8 in 24 hrs. and is on antibiotics (kidney inf) and threw up. At this point she is completely done with them, furthermore against them.
So later that day I ask if i could have one, she said no. I get irritated cuz she clearly said before that I could taper off with them (probably withdrawls influencing this); but to understand my frustration, she never pays for the oxy, I do, so when she has them and i dont and she doesnt share? thats messed up. Well she went to sleep while i chilled on the computer cuz i couldnt sleep. She comes out, flips out, calls me an addict and all of this other stuff, and is basically giving me the option to stop taking them completely cold turkey or shes leaving me. She flips out to the point where she is convincing my friends that 15mg a day, most days of the week is dangerous addiction and I need to stop forever (my friends dont know much about addiction or oxy, just assume the worst from horror stories).
I gave her the compromise, okay if you quit cigarettes, I will quit percs. She refused saying percs are way worse and that wasnt fair, which I tried to explain at high doses I completely agree, but at 15mg? If 15mg is that dangerous and will do permanent severe damage, please let me know, I am health consciencious and keep that stuff in mind during my recreational activities. Of course I lost that battle, I am a guy.
I love her and would obviously choose her over percs ANY DAY, but finals are coming up and I fear completely stopping oxy will greatly affect my performance (I have 4 ridiculous class finals to take within a week).
She wont listen to me, I dont want to lose her (I know you guys are probably thinkin this chick is crazy, but hey, arent they all), so my hope is that I get some good feedback to try to explain to her better that just stopping completely right before finals is not the way to go. She has 2 days of school a week and easy classes, I can understand being fine with quitting and dealing with withdrawals on that schedule. But for me, I feel that the day finals are over and summer starts when I have nothing to do is the perfect time.
This is the straight story, no exaggerations. Her argument is that I am just being weak and shes strong, is quitting percs really that easy? If so then I dont think addiction would ever be a problem.
I understand that its a path, and a lot of people keep going down it and lose control, but I told them if I EVER do 60mg in a day or even think about doing heroin, stop me and tell me that I have a problem. That is my limit, and I will respect that because I set it. I cannot believe something unless if a lot of knowledgeable, educated people all agree without doubt, which in all of my research online cannot find a single source saying that im gonna die and be addicted forever at that low of a dose, which is why I think all of this is kind of ridiculous and blown out of proportion. I understand it can happen, and it happens to a lot of people, but there are many signs such as increasing dosage to much higher than 30mg from tolerance. My limit would indicate I am showing those signs and I will stop, but its like saying a person who has a beer or glass of wine a night is an alcoholic, people would laugh at that vs. if someone was putting away a 12pk a night.
Sorry its kinda long
Thanks for any input!
So I am young (college), very healthy and athletic, and just want to have fun because I know I wont be able to do stuff (like oxy) later in life and its a great stress reliever from school (im a biomedical engineer, very stressful). Me and my gf have been taking the same amount of oxy (IR, blue/green shirts) for about 2-3 months now and here are some details:
-Never have taken more than 30mg a day (usually between 15 and 20, we share)
-Only take it at night once everything that needs to be done is done (usually before watching some premium show like Game of Thrones)
-Never taken it alone
-Take it maybe 5-6 days a week, sometimes go a couple days w/o if I feel tolerance has built too high
-Never mix it with other substances that will react badly (like alcohol)
Now here is where it started:
I wanted to quit before finals, so to avoid withdrawal symptoms, I was going to taper down. We agreed the day she got prescribed 5/325 percs (they are crap and kill you, i know, but not taking more than 2 at a time max) that she would let me have a few when I needed to not experience withdrawals. She took about 6-8 in 24 hrs. and is on antibiotics (kidney inf) and threw up. At this point she is completely done with them, furthermore against them.
So later that day I ask if i could have one, she said no. I get irritated cuz she clearly said before that I could taper off with them (probably withdrawls influencing this); but to understand my frustration, she never pays for the oxy, I do, so when she has them and i dont and she doesnt share? thats messed up. Well she went to sleep while i chilled on the computer cuz i couldnt sleep. She comes out, flips out, calls me an addict and all of this other stuff, and is basically giving me the option to stop taking them completely cold turkey or shes leaving me. She flips out to the point where she is convincing my friends that 15mg a day, most days of the week is dangerous addiction and I need to stop forever (my friends dont know much about addiction or oxy, just assume the worst from horror stories).
I gave her the compromise, okay if you quit cigarettes, I will quit percs. She refused saying percs are way worse and that wasnt fair, which I tried to explain at high doses I completely agree, but at 15mg? If 15mg is that dangerous and will do permanent severe damage, please let me know, I am health consciencious and keep that stuff in mind during my recreational activities. Of course I lost that battle, I am a guy.
I love her and would obviously choose her over percs ANY DAY, but finals are coming up and I fear completely stopping oxy will greatly affect my performance (I have 4 ridiculous class finals to take within a week).
She wont listen to me, I dont want to lose her (I know you guys are probably thinkin this chick is crazy, but hey, arent they all), so my hope is that I get some good feedback to try to explain to her better that just stopping completely right before finals is not the way to go. She has 2 days of school a week and easy classes, I can understand being fine with quitting and dealing with withdrawals on that schedule. But for me, I feel that the day finals are over and summer starts when I have nothing to do is the perfect time.
This is the straight story, no exaggerations. Her argument is that I am just being weak and shes strong, is quitting percs really that easy? If so then I dont think addiction would ever be a problem.
I understand that its a path, and a lot of people keep going down it and lose control, but I told them if I EVER do 60mg in a day or even think about doing heroin, stop me and tell me that I have a problem. That is my limit, and I will respect that because I set it. I cannot believe something unless if a lot of knowledgeable, educated people all agree without doubt, which in all of my research online cannot find a single source saying that im gonna die and be addicted forever at that low of a dose, which is why I think all of this is kind of ridiculous and blown out of proportion. I understand it can happen, and it happens to a lot of people, but there are many signs such as increasing dosage to much higher than 30mg from tolerance. My limit would indicate I am showing those signs and I will stop, but its like saying a person who has a beer or glass of wine a night is an alcoholic, people would laugh at that vs. if someone was putting away a 12pk a night.
Sorry its kinda long
Thanks for any input!
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