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i can't handle the drugs. anyone else feel this way?

deviate

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i can't seem to handle opiates, stimulants or alcohol. each one has its own set of bad side effects that ruin the experience for me. whenever i take one these drugs i always regret it, they make me feel good for a couple hours and then like shit for a lot longer. even when i'm high, the side effects bother me. i don't really mind this because i think i'm better off smoking weed and trying psychedelics anyway but i was just curious if anyone feels like me.
 
I'm sure there are many who feel this way.
Also, by not doing the "harder" drugs you will also do less harm to your body.
 
yeah no worries, i used to eat mushrooms like candy and now days im beginning to loose intrest and actually fear I cant handle them anymore....stick to weed its always a good one
 
deviate u might wanna elaborate this side effects and feeling bad. but overall perhaps uve been doing it too much and the experience is fading, losing its appeal.


well im sort of also interested in something similar so ill squeeze this in.

its not that i cant handle opiates anymore its just that i dont get the euphoria anymore and mind you, i dont use for more than 1-2 weeks at a time and then pause for a couple of weeks. I get the pin pupils and depressed breathing and all but theres no "high". bad H ? which is weird cause its not supposed to be at all. so i sometimes just start feeling angry or uncomfortable cause the expected high eludes me, even tho im sort of high as a kite.
 
this reminds me of a recent post. PhreeX posted it, but I believe he was quoting someone from a post even earlier.

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1) Experimental drug users who like to take very precise doses and (lord help us) record the effects, and come up wth meaningless psychobabble about k-space and setting, and metaprogramming and such. If it floats your boat, fine, but I've never met a psychonaut who was actually fun to be around while taking drugs. Control freaks. . .and they favor psychedelic type drugs, but make far too big a deal about high doses, and need terms like ego-disintegration to make getting fucked up sound like an intellectual pursuit.

2) Recreational drug users. These folks take a little bit of everything, unlike the EDU's. Drugs are just for having fun, and while the RDU will occasionally lapse into mystical shit while on acid, an RDU will invariably forget to write in the lab notebook in favor of frolicking in a field of dandelions, playing hacky-sack, or some such. Probably the most fun drug user to be around, short-term. . .but also risky, because an RDU, like the teenager at the keg party, is often unaware when they cross over the line from somewaht fucked up to out of control. RDU's often take too much of whatever is going which is goood but hasn't done this often enough to adjust. Nonetheless, an RDU usually sticks to pot, coke (snorted), the occasional opiate. . a psychedelic here and there. Basically likes the smorgasbord, but only eats it on weekends and special occasions.

3) And then there's the people for whom this ng exists The Hard Drug User [Trumpets rise]. The primary philosophy of the HDU is "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom." otherwise known is "lets get fucked up". Bang meth, as phreex says. The question why would someone do that much of substance X is meaningless to an HDU. You do excessive amounts of a substance because, when you're dealing with Hard Drugs, the more you do, the more fucked up you are, and that is a Good Thing. Fuck the lab notebook; I can barely cook a shot, I certainly have no urge to record my impressions. Its a bilevel plateau system: NotFuckedUp/FuckedUp. OD'ing? heh.

Any HDU worth their salt walks that line like bird on a wire whilst singin like a drunk in a midnight choir; the RDU's worry about od'ing. HDU's worry about having enough to cop a buzz, and still leaving some for the next day. EDU's care about mapping the psychic landscape; HDU's care more about mapping new places to score and convenient places to do drugs when your on the go.

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Being a drug user is all about knowing what to take and when to take it. Unfortunately, if the comedowns etc are beginning to ruin your desire to do drugs, you probably aren't handling them the right way. For instance having benzos when you need them or maybe you are just stuck in the horrible wasteland of only doing enough to get you high but not really getting fucked up. I feel if I am going to be doing a drug, I'd at least like to get the full effect. I know a lot of people will preach about the dangers of that mentality, but we're talking about drugs here, not gardening.

So make the decision on how you would like to live your drug lifestyle. But if you are going to feel shitty about it, shitty about the comedowns, I really really hope you are getting the best highs possible while you're at it, otherwise it's a waste of your healthy body and mind.

To each his own. Peace.
 
Well, if you don't enjoy the drugs you are doing, then the most obvious answer is to not do them. Think about it this way... you will be saving money, you won't run the risk of getting a habit, and you will be overall in better health. Look on this as a blessing (that you don't react well to drugs...) If you really want to, just have an occasional drink or something.
 
Man I am right there with you. I can't handle Mushrooms, LSD, Weed, Meth, MDMA, etc.....my anxiety level is so high due to my former drug use (which actually wasn't THAT bad, not near as bad as others, trust me) I guess my body reacted negatively after a while, I had 2 traumatic drug experiences which don't haunt me today, but I believe that after those 2 events my anxiety and fear of death started and now drugs bother me even though I REALLY want to take some drugs, unfortunately I can't.

Perhaps after my SSRI treatment is over I'll dabble again, but this time VERY VERY moderately...or maybe I won't, maybe my deteriorated health is a sign that my body has had enough and that continuing after I feel better is a BAD idea....I dunno...I'm 50/50 on it.

I wish I didn't get the shit end of the stick but I did. Good luck bro!
 
my wife stopped rolling because she started feeling "stupid"the next day. Just like she might have done something she wouldn't if she wasn't taking the drug. Your first thought is ohh its ok, your just ate up, your fine. but after only one or two times feeling this way she would no longer do it.

I still every now and then but she won't, and I think she is more happy knowing she made a choice to stop. didn't just keep going with the flow even though it was effecting her in such a bad way. I just had to detox from opiates, we have a baby on the way. I used klonopins and weed to help with the effects of my withdrawal. It was hell, but not as bad as when I did it without taking other things. We are both clean right now and have been for a few months, her 5 me 3. But I will go back, I almost feel like somthing is missing all the time.

But I guess where I am going is, if your not feeling like you think you should, if its not your thing, find what is. There are alot of things to do, and nobody is saying that drugs are the thing to do, but if you are going to use, use the ones that enhance life, not the ones that bring you down. You just quit your job and poke yourself in the eye to get those results.

Chicken
 
Drugs arent for everyone, you experimented and the side effects overweighted the buzz so dont fuck with them anymore and its a good thing you dont like stimulants,opiates,alcohole because there very addictive especially opiates and alcohole... stick with good ol' mary jane and some phycadellics(sp?)
 
Yeah I agree with geetered just stick with herb and pyschedelics. I love pyshchedelics and herb the most but I do opiates and alcohol pretty frequently and stimulants (no meth though) sometimes. I often wish I would never had touched anything more then pyschedelics. I can handle anything fine except for mushrooms, I used to be able to eat full 1/8ths all the time but now I can only handle a half 1/8th at most... molly and lsd thats a different story heh
 
for me i am very recreational about my use. i fit in none of the above categories, i have tried GHB, speed, marijuana, and MDMA. the only one i would like to do again is MDMA and maybe a little speed to compliment the roll. for me, i was a mack daddy on ghb , but i felt a little overwhelmed. i also now know it imposes some serious health risks. marijuana just makes me feel slow, i cant figure out why they call being stoned "high" seems like a low to me. it also makes my stomach extremely irritated and i throw up every time. its not even the i feel a little sick feeling you get when coming up on MDMA, its the getouttamywayimgonnapuke! feeling. mdma has never made me feel stupid the next day except when i bought a pill that was a little speedy. as far as psychadelics go, im not sure im mentally ready enough to experience those. as far as opiates go, the level of addiction seems like more of an issue than i am ready to try to deal with. my only two rules are "no insufflation, no needles"
 
Bought a pill that was a little speedy? Hmmm....alright, alright, I'll just ignore that. Sorry.
 
Consider your self lucky and ditch them all together.If I could turn back the hands of time I would never have hit that first Joint.
 
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