I Can Sense Electromagnetic Energy

[cryptix420]

The last two days have been the most insane of my life. I took LSD with a friend, a bunch of n2o, then about 8 hours in took mxe and a bit later 100mg of DPT. Sweet dearest mother of our holy Earth........I am definitely going to write a trip report, but I wanted to briefly share one of the most profound aspects of the trip.


I was laying on the bed, shortly after insufflating the DPT, I inhaled a whippit, and all of a sudden I could sense all the electric energy surrounding me, inside all the walls of the apartment complex, and most notably from my iphone. I could first see the currents of energy (pinkish color) running throughout my body and my left arm, then using my left hand I picked up my iphone and while my eyes were closed, I could see a line of energy pulsating in the exact rectangular shape of the iphone, and then inside the rectangle was what looked like the infinity loop, or sideways 8, and I could literally see the energy flowing from the phone through my whole body. I could move my hand up and down and see the energy move back and forth in a wah-wah-wah sort of way. Even today after having come down, when I have been talking to my friends about everything I experienced (um entity contact.....it is real.) I could feel the energy flowing through the air from the phone to the other person. All these waves in the air are affecting us in ways I don't think we are aware of.....

DPT.................


SPEECHLESS

 

[psood0nym]

Very easy to test. Nest time take an infrared remote or one of those car FM transmitters, or any device that emits electromagnetic energy. With all the lights of have a friend controlling the device stand to the side of an open door with you on the other side such that you cannot see them or the device. Have them aim the device across the door opening. Do no less than 100 trials where each time both you and your friend mark “on” or “off” for each trial, then compare notes.

If you can see invisible electromagnetic radiation you can earn millions of dollars with your super-human talent. Congratulations, you’ll be rich. I have a PayPal account so give me 10 percent for giving you the idea that lead to your vast wealth.

If not, you’re just another over-excited tripper claiming super-powers.

 

[cryptix420]

^ friend, I have nothing but love for you. However, I do know what I experienced.

I'm not too interested in the millions of dollars so much as the health & happiness of mankind and Mother Earth.

 

[sekio]

1. The human mind is very complex.
2. Perception is what humans base their model of reality off of
3. DPT and the other hallucinogens are generally considered to distort perception
4. Therefore what you percieve under the influence of DPT is not neccesarily a 1:1 correspondence with reality.

It is totally possible that you were envisioning these processes going on and you were able to visualize imaginatively the concept of electromagnetic radiation. But it is stupendously unlikely you are able to sense it in any capacity outside the normal human visual range. Perception unfortunately does not define reality.

The human eye is limited to responding to light of very limited bandwidths. Generally electrical wiring does not give off perceptible visual radiation. (Unless it's heated to the point of glowing) Moreover, radio waves are considered not to interact with biological tissue in humans. Even magnetic fields of incredible power fail to generate any perceptible response in physiology. Of course there are few exceptions to the rule (for instance the pineal gland is said to be light sensitive) but nothing with anywhere near the imaging capacity of your retina that is capable of recieving faint radio waves & decoding them into an image.

Some people actually get magnets installed in their fingertips, these people *can* sense electromagnetic energy in the form of feeling your fingertip "buzz" or "tingle". But they still don't "see" energy.

If you could "see" radio energy you would probably go blind in a metropolitan city. You are just experiencing wonderful CEVs.

 

[eye_wide_open]

Could be more senses we have that we don't know about.
But this does sound like an effect of the drug perhaps..
But I'm not close minded to anything about psychedelics. They've surprised the hell out of me more than once.
I'm sure there is some weird odd possibility that something along the lines of what you say may have happened.
Maybe not..

Psychs are crazy like that.
You never know what could go in the midst of a good trip where you mixed several wacky drugs.

could also be a third eye type of thing that doesn't work with the first two.
ESP and such. I believe it is possible to activate and stir up things like this in your brain on psychs sometimes.

this type of thing is generally perceived to be false... unless you've felt it happen to you.

 

[cryptix420]

^ I do not mean that I saw it with eyes open. This was with eyes closed. It was absolutely, 100% undeniably tangible. It was in the exact shape of the phone; when I moved the phone, so did move the imagine in my mind. This was not 'distorted perceptions'.

I imagine I can expect to be called a crazy for much of my life, considering much of what I witnessed over the last couple days. The word 'medium' comes to mind.

 

[eye_wide_open]

It's possible the light leaked through your eyelids.
My eyephone is super bright, specially when on drugs. It looks all 3D.

...an yes...
If you expect to share too much of what happens to you when on drugs here that is out of the normal, people may start looking at you weird like they do to me. lol

Some of the shit we experience around here is down right unexplainable.

 

[psood0nym]

^ I do not mean that I saw it with eyes open. This was with eyes closed. It was absolutely, 100% undeniably tangible. It was in the exact shape of the phone; when I moved the phone, so did move the imagine in my mind. This was not 'distorted perceptions'.

I imagine I can expect to be called a crazy for much of my life, considering much of what I witnessed over the last couple days. The word 'medium' comes to mind.

I think I know what you mean. When you close your eyes the image of what you had just seen is still in front of you? Then you move a hand into what would be your field of vision if you had your eyes open and you still see some representation of your hand? I've experienced that. It's proprioceptive (your awareness of the orientation of your body parts) sensation mapping into visualization plus your awareness of the phone in your hand with an inner visual interpretation of what you believe is happening within the phone unconsciously. There is a virtual reality within your mind that you reconstitute using information from other senses, and it all becomes illuminated by DPT. You don't see electromagnetic energy, but you do see your brain trying to make sense of its inputs in a way you never would sober. It's a beautiful thing, and a little bit of a miracle -- but it's not seeing outside the spectrum.

EDIT:Consider that there are people who, after experiencing some terrible trauma, perceive themselves from outside their bodies (as a defense mechanism). They are not actually outside their bodies -- any critical test would disconfirm their claim -- yet they take what has entered their retinas and reconfigure their subjective visualization such that it appears they are outside their bodies to them, and that helps them process the trauma to their physical bodies. They use an amalgamation of what they see and visual memory to construct a virtual environment, which, after assemblage, is fed into their mind's eye. That is the robust level of mental simulacra activity that, as drug takers, we must be able to accept as an alternate explanation before we can assert that we are experiencing some objective input. Such is the power of the mind.

 

[sockpuppet]

Cryptix - what you were seeing was not Electromagnetic Energy but a HOLOGRAM projected around you by the Spice Elves you to convince you that you were seeing Electromagnetic Energy. As you probably know, BL and the rest of the online drug world were created by these extradimensional creatures in order to encourage human test subjects to unwittingly ingest new drugs too dangerous to test in the Elf Dimension. They probably did a little of that "probing" they're known for too so if you're a little sore still try a little Preparation H.....


Seriously - there is no shame in coming back from a trip with a few "interesting ideas" - especially if you've overdone it in some way (like combining all kinds of non-psychs with psychs as you did). But if you still believe you literally experienced what you did after a few more days you might want to slow down on all drugs for a long time. The hyper-rational, geek-centric vibe on BL is often laughable - but the posters above are right. You didn't see electromagnetic radiation any more than I've seen spice elves turn themselves inside out for a laugh.

No doubt you had other profound and genuinely meaningful revelations in the course of a powerful experience - and the proximity of those revelations to these visions tends to make them seem profound and real as well, but all psychedelic Truth has to be sifted from a lot of psychedelic chaff....In a few days you'll probably see that - if not, take it as a sign to slow down a lot.....

Good Luck.

 

[cryptix420]

I think I know what you mean. When you close your eyes the image of what you had just seen is still in front of you? Then you move a hand into what would be your field of vision if you had your eyes open and you still see some representation of your hand? I've experienced that. It's proprioceptive (your awareness of the orientation of your body parts) sensation mapping into visualization plus your awareness of the phone in your hand with an inner visual interpretation of what you believe is happening within the phone unconsciously. There is a virtual reality within your mind that you reconstitute using information from other senses, and it all becomes illuminated by DPT. You don't see electromagnetic energy, but you do see your brain trying to make sense of its inputs in a way you never would sober. It's a beautiful thing, and a little bit of a miracle -- but it's not seeing outside the spectrum.

EDIT:Consider that there are people who, after experiencing some terrible trauma, perceive themselves from outside their bodies (as a defense mechanism). They are not actually outside their bodies -- any critical test would disconfirm their claim -- yet they take what has entered their retinas and reconfigure their subjective visualization such that it appears they are outside their bodies to them, and that helps them process the trauma to their physical bodies. They use an amalgamation of what they see and visual memory to construct a virtual environment, which, after assemblage, is fed into their mind's eye. That is the robust level of mental simulacra activity that, as drug takers, we must be able to accept as an alternate explanation before we can assert that we are experiencing some objective input. Such is the power of the mind.

Who are you to say they 'are not actually outside their bodies'? You are claiming to know for 100% fact that out of body experiences are not authentic. I would completely disagree with that; there is much more going on here than just the physical realm and what our basic 5 senses afford us.

In response to your first paragraph; no, that is not what I am talking about. Here is the scenario, I will try to lay it out in more detail. It had been about 12 hours since taking ~100ug of LSD, I was quite high on MXE, and ~150mg of DPT had been insufflated over the course of the last couple hours. Just before this incident that I made the thread about, I had filled up a ballon with one cartridge of nitrous oxide. I laid back on my bed, balloon in hand, iphone laying next to me playing music. I lay completely flat on my back, eyes closed, and inhale the sweet gas. After a few seconds, I am rapidly shooting into a different dimension..All the energy coursing through my body becomes blisteringly apparent to my third eye (my eyes remain closed for the entirety of this experience, for a good 2-3 minutes) and I feel some other source of energy that seems very powerful. I move my hand over to the source of the music, pick up the phone in my left hand, and in my mind's eye I literally see a changing, pulsating, coursing line of energy in the shape of a rectangle, with a figure 8 & even smaller rectangle inside that. It was unbelievable (most of the DPT experience was akin to a wrecking ball shattering my views on energy & spirituality) and after just absorbing the moment for a second, I moved my left hand from side to side to observe what would happen to the energy I was seeing. Sure enough, the image in my mind waved back and forth with the motion of my hand.

I do understand the farfetched nature of what I am describing, I too would used to laugh a little inside when people would speak of entity contact (more often from DMT breakthough it seems) however I had hoped to find a bit more open-mindedness on these forums, considering the nature of our business here.

Peace & Love.


edit: On some notebook paper I will draw the shape of what I saw. I will upload it on my scanner and post it here. That should prove interesting.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

1. The human mind is very complex.
2. Perception is what humans base their model of reality off of
3. DPT and the other hallucinogens are generally considered to distort perception
4. Therefore what you percieve under the influence of DPT is not neccesarily a 1:1 correspondence with reality.

It is totally possible that you were envisioning these processes going on and you were able to visualize imaginatively the concept of electromagnetic radiation. But it is stupendously unlikely you are able to sense it in any capacity outside the normal human visual range. Perception unfortunately does not define reality.

The human eye is limited to responding to light of very limited bandwidths. Generally electrical wiring does not give off perceptible visual radiation. (Unless it's heated to the point of glowing) Moreover, radio waves are considered not to interact with biological tissue in humans. Even magnetic fields of incredible power fail to generate any perceptible response in physiology. Of course there are few exceptions to the rule (for instance the pineal gland is said to be light sensitive) but nothing with anywhere near the imaging capacity of your retina that is capable of recieving faint radio waves & decoding them into an image.

Some people actually get magnets installed in their fingertips, these people *can* sense electromagnetic energy in the form of feeling your fingertip "buzz" or "tingle". But they still don't "see" energy.

If you could "see" radio energy you would probably go blind in a metropolitan city. You are just experiencing wonderful CEVs.

This this this this this.

Radio frequency (RF) energy is everywhere. The sun spits out massive amounts of RF energy as do everyday electronic devices. Not to mention the public safety radio systems of your locality, commercial radio broadcasting, two-way radio systems, television broadcasting, telemetry, cordless phones, cellular phones, microwave ovens, the computer you're reading this on, your cable box, the RFID tag in the library book you rented, everything.

If you could "see" even a small slice of the RF spectrum, you would be blinded.

 

[cryptix420]

^ I did not mean to imply I visually 'saw' it. I am referring to the mind's eye, not the two big squishy ones in my face. Lol.

I attempted to get that across in the thread title by saying 'sense'.


And yes, the energy is everywhere. That is the frightening thing. Anyone ever see the Keanu Reeves movie placed in the future where people start coming down with a mental disease from all the waves in the air? There have been studies done in the 90's proving how harmful wireless technology is to human beings. People have gotten tumors in the exact spot that they keep their phone (if you keep it in one spot too long, ie the same pocket). I use speakerphone as much as possible, it is much less unhealthy than holding it right to your ear.

If you could "see" radio energy you would probably go blind in a metropolitan city. You are just experiencing wonderful CEVs.

I gotta say mate, I don't appreciate you telling me what I am experiencing.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

I would less worried about the 700 milliwatt transmitter in your cell phone and more worried about the 500 kilowatt TV transmitter down the street.

Right, we don't actually know what all these waves will do to people. But that's neither here nor there.

I still hold that if you could even sense electromagnetic energy, your senses would be indescribably overwhelmed.

 

[cryptix420]

I still hold that if you could even sense electromagnetic energy, your senses would be indescribably overwhelmed.

^ they are mate. I was talking to my mentor about this being one of the causes of my anxiety. I remember another moment during the trip when the sprinkler system kicked on outside; I could feel a sudden tug all around my bedroom, it felt like a I was standing really close to one of those giant metal telephone poles. I always feel a buzzing standing by those. (I used to walk my dogs through a park that had one of those built in the middle of it)

Just ponder for a minute the generally high stress level of the human race these days. Overwhelmed senses perhaps?

Right, we don't actually know what all these waves will do to people. But that's neither here nor there.

Neither here nor there? Brother, this is our people we are talking about. Our health. Our well-being. It is here, there, and everything.

 

[eye_wide_open]

Who are you to say they 'are not actually outside their bodies'?
You are claiming to know for 100% fact that out of body
experiences are not authentic. I would completely disagree
with that; there is much more going on here than just the
physical realm and what our basic 5 senses afford us.

I have to agree with this.
Just because the body is still alive during SOME out of body
experiences does not mean the soul hasn't actually
left the body.
We can't prove things like this.
this is why science has failed the world.
Because we don't know what is going on with our souls.

I'd have to agree with the above quoted
comments without regards to my credibility.

some people get it, others never will.
That's why they can't agree on it.
And science can't prove it.

Why do many people typically experience a lot of the same things on out of body experiences?
If we are all different shouldn't we all then experience something different?
I believe the reason is, is because we are all experiencing something very real that most tend to deny who have not had it happen to them. Simple to understand that one, basically.

I didn't have this experience on DMT. (even though I did see the elves. to me they are aliens)
It took what I would consider a more powerful drug. MXE.
But I know damn well other people can experience the same things on other drugs too.

DMT makes me hallucinate and break through but it's not understanable because they shove it ALLLL down your throat at once.
MXE gives you time to understand and eases you out into the hands of the creator.
Break through on MXe and prepare to "see".
Be careful, much easier to die trying to break through on MXE than DMT..

DMt is just straight up confusing. Like a fresh bag of shroom. you probably won't have all that many realistic revelations on it unless you do it often or in ways you can slow it down an work with it.

You also can't get any truthful info out of people who haven't experienced "the ultimate universe ride" just yet. they don't understand what you are talking about. They are programmed not to believe until they feel it for themselves.

It don't/can't happen to everyone
and it's not easy to acheive.
Therefore it's not easily understood.
The best place to study it would be here, where it's happening,
outside of a lab, watching your comments.
They can't easily recreate it in a lab setting under pressure.
It's something they have little to no control over.

Guinea Pig, Over and out

 

[gymstud]

I think I know what you mean. When you close your eyes the image of what you had just seen is still in front of you? Then you move a hand into what would be your field of vision if you had your eyes open and you still see some representation of your hand? I've experienced that. It's proprioceptive (your awareness of the orientation of your body parts) sensation mapping into visualization plus your awareness of the phone in your hand with an inner visual interpretation of what you believe is happening within the phone unconsciously. There is a virtual reality within your mind that you reconstitute using information from other senses, and it all becomes illuminated by DPT. You don't see electromagnetic energy, but you do see your brain trying to make sense of its inputs in a way you never would sober. It's a beautiful thing, and a little bit of a miracle -- but it's not seeing outside the spectrum.

EDIT:Consider that there are people who, after experiencing some terrible trauma, perceive themselves from outside their bodies (as a defense mechanism). They are not actually outside their bodies -- any critical test would disconfirm their claim -- yet they take what has entered their retinas and reconfigure their subjective visualization such that it appears they are outside their bodies to them, and that helps them process the trauma to their physical bodies. They use an amalgamation of what they see and visual memory to construct a virtual environment, which, after assemblage, is fed into their mind's eye. That is the robust level of mental simulacra activity that, as drug takers, we must be able to accept as an alternate explanation before we can assert that we are experiencing some objective input. Such is the power of the mind.

I was going to say that

 

[eye_wide_open]

Russian scientists photograph soul leaving body
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread495822/pg1
Interesting related comments:

In a meditative state is has been scientificly noted that a halo forms around a persons head at the moment of 'enlightenment.' Which is when the pineal gland is 'moved'/'redirected' to face straight ahead of you, as if looking forward. That is why Jesus is depicted with a halo around his head, and in some cases with three green beams of light protruding from his head(one at the top, and one on each side of the head.) There are accually eight of them, but they arent always visable at the angle Jesus is 'painted' in.

so dang!, I guess they almost can prove we have souls that leave the body by now..

Once people can grasp this, then we can get down to business with some serious discussions! lol
until then, expect earth to look like a three stooges episode.

 

[rangrz]

I Can Sense Electromagnetic Energy

Congratulation, I can also see light and feel infrared against my skin as heat, just like the vast majority of mesozoanian animals. I don't even need LSD to do it.

 

[IamMe90]

Who are you to say they 'are not actually outside their bodies'? You are claiming to know for 100% fact that out of body experiences are not authentic. I would completely disagree with that; there is much more going on here than just the physical realm and what our basic 5 senses afford us.

In response to your first paragraph; no, that is not what I am talking about. Here is the scenario, I will try to lay it out in more detail. It had been about 12 hours since taking ~100ug of LSD, I was quite high on MXE, and ~150mg of DPT had been insufflated over the course of the last couple hours. Just before this incident that I made the thread about, I had filled up a ballon with one cartridge of nitrous oxide. I laid back on my bed, balloon in hand, iphone laying next to me playing music. I lay completely flat on my back, eyes closed, and inhale the sweet gas. After a few seconds, I am rapidly shooting into a different dimension..All the energy coursing through my body becomes blisteringly apparent to my third eye (my eyes remain closed for the entirety of this experience, for a good 2-3 minutes) and I feel some other source of energy that seems very powerful. I move my hand over to the source of the music, pick up the phone in my left hand, and in my mind's eye I literally see a changing, pulsating, coursing line of energy in the shape of a rectangle, with a figure 8 & even smaller rectangle inside that. It was unbelievable (most of the DPT experience was akin to a wrecking ball shattering my views on energy & spirituality) and after just absorbing the moment for a second, I moved my left hand from side to side to observe what would happen to the energy I was seeing. Sure enough, the image in my mind waved back and forth with the motion of my hand.

I do understand the farfetched nature of what I am describing, I too would used to laugh a little inside when people would speak of entity contact (more often from DMT breakthough it seems) however I had hoped to find a bit more open-mindedness on these forums, considering the nature of our business here.

Peace & Love.


edit: On some notebook paper I will draw the shape of what I saw. I will upload it on my scanner and post it here. That should prove interesting.

What you just described is entirely consistent with the phenomenon that psood0nym explicated. If you can't understand that, then there's just an inherent intellectual disconnect between you and everyone here disagreeing with you and no one will convince you that you aren't doing the impossible, so there isn't much point in any of us arguing.

It's not close-mindedness to put down one person's subjective, untested drug experiences to a well-known and consistent scientific phenomenon than to assume the veracity of one person's subjective, untested drug experiences, it's just reasonable. Of course what you describe isn't strictly "impossible" in some overly-broad skeptical sense but it is incredibly unlikely so no one really has a good reason not to be incredulous.

 

[eye_wide_open]

Congratulation, I can also see light and feel infrared against my skin as heat, just like the vast majority of mesozoanian animals. I don't even need LSD to do it.

Just as well as there is a good majority of people smart enough to "see" what is going on all around them without drugs.
Perhaps we should say, "with enough brains enabled" or with "unclouded judgement".
Maybe even those who used drugs as the catalyst.
Accidentally, of course.