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I am addicted to oxycodone and I feel helpless

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Miamiyony

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I am addicted to oxy 10/325. I am up to 7 pills per day and I don't know what to do. I have a full time job, and am married with 3 kids. I am desperate to be free of this garbage and win my life back. I have a vision of the gates of hell. I have passed through them and I am in desperate need of the cavalry to come and rescue me. I am ashamed that I have gotten to this point. I am also afraid of losing my wife, or possibly dying before my time. I want to be there to walk my daughters down the aisle. I want to be there for my son's graduation.
I feel like this is the best place for me to get advice. Taking a month off from work or my family to go to rehab is not really an option. I guess my major question is this: if I get on suboxone and get off of this garbage, will it be eventually be harder for me to kick the suboxone. I heard suboxone has a half life of 14 days where oxy has a half life of 6 hours. I really messed up to put myself in this position. Any educated advice would be most appreciated. I know I screwed up big time for putting myself in this position, so if you have some insensitive criticism... Please spare me. I get it... I screwed up.
 
Not a terrible habit.
Grab some comfort meds and go through w/d, you'll survive sir.
Call it a bad flu.
 
First, welcome to Bluelight, you'll find all the help and support you need here.

Second, your habit isn't out of control, so if you cut back on your use you should be able to quit with minimal discomfort. Like flaga said, get some comfort meds and call it a bad flu. You'll find pages and pages of help in this thread.

Best of luck to you. Think of your family, find some way to occupy your time while withdrawing, then start exercising as soon as possible to get the endorphins flowing again. You can do this.
 
You could do a suboxone taper, a SHORT one. Otherwise you'll just be dragging out hell.

Alternately, why don't you try tapering on the oxies? It's active at 2.5mgs so if you jump down, say, taking one less pill a day over a matter of a few weeks, and break them in half when you feel you can do so.

If you are rattling hard a little adderall might get you through the day when you're quitting/tapering. I'm only suggesting that because of your family.
 
Take 6 pills Mon, 5 Tues, 4 Weds, 3 Thurs, Friday don't take shit grab some valium, xanax or clonazepam, for sleep and anxiety (don't take too much for too long you don't wanna get dependent on benzo's), Immodium for the diarrhea, clonidine for the twitchy legs, drink a ton of gatorade and water to flush the shit outta your system faster, try to eat & just bang it out your habit really isn't that substantial you shouldn't have too hard of a time
 
try to get valium/klonopn or xanax maybe some clonadine and subs and it shouldn't be so bad
 
Fuck subs, subs honestly prolong the withdrawal and in my opinion make it worse I'd rather kick heroin, or any prescription opiate with just benzo's over subs any day, in my personal opinion taking subs makes the withdrawal prolonged and long term worse cuz then you just kick the subs which sucks just as bad
 
At that dosage I'd forget subs, just take 10-20mg (maybe more slowly tapered) of loperamide, clonidine if you can, a benzo or etizolam for a few days as needed. As everyone said, you'll feel like total hell for 5 days max and probably more like 3-4.

If you take the loperamide and taper it with a benzo and maybe clonidine you'll feel a lot better, and it can be a moderate flu instead of complete vomiting and shitting everywhere.
 
I too am in a similar situation. I take 7 1/2 Norco 10/325 a day and have for years. Nobody knows. I want to quit so bad. I recently ran out of pills for a couple days and it ruined me. I was a mess. Up all night. Rls like mad! Felt like shit. I blamed it on the flu. I know compared to others my habit seems small but it's very real to me. I guess I just need encouragement that this is very doable. Thanks everyone. Sorry to hijack your post. I just relate to you so much
 
I come off this dose regularly to maintain a lower tolerance than I would have otherwise.
As others suggested, you can taper comfortably at this point, but keep going up and you're asking for trouble you really WILL have an awful time dealing with. I know you have withdrawal and that makes it seem already out of control, but it ISN'T as bad as it COULD be and that's what you want to avoid now. Suboxone seems strong for this amount, but I am CERTAINLY no expert on Suboxone. I only need maintenance meds like methadone, though, at 120 mg +, everyone is different though. Suboxone seems like trading one addiction for a worse one, though, honestly IMO.

Taper with your remaining oxy or grab a maintenance med if you really think you need it to help the slight wd's you'll have. Kick it COLD if you think you can handle it, but with 3 kids I doubt that's an option. If you do take a maintenance med, start small, I know I only needed 2.5 mg methadone to start with, 1/4 of a tablet lol. Most maintenance meds are for people with far higher habits than this, I would think.

I want you to know no one is making light of your habit, it is serious to you and thus a serious problem. I know it's awful, you may not be able to imagine worse if you haven't actually been there. But TRUST ME, stay on this road, don't handle it now, and you'll know what the real misery feels like. You can't truly experience prison until you've been locked inside of it. :(
 
I see a lot of people talk about certain types of meds to help with wd. I know that talk about how to acquire drugs is not allowed here but can I ask would these types of drugs in small amounts be prescribed by a doc of they know what they are being used for? I know. ... Random ass question that would very from doc to doc but, is this common at all?
 
You actually have it good. It is around 80mg a day when WDs start, so if you taper there shouldn't be much physical symptoms, this is a mental situation.

All you have to remember, is that when you start having less medication in your system you are going to feel some of the same feelings that you felt before anything. Remember that this medication is for blocking pain, it is not an answer for the issues you may or may not have in the long run. It is not uncommon for human beings to be naturally unbalanced.

You are right about Sub, it is all a numbers game. If you took 8mgs of sub then you would probably feel that same relief all day that 70mg of perc would give you since it is long lasting. So compare 8mg to 70mg. You are feeling the same relief but taking less physical substance. In the right context that is how sub can be such a saver and save someone when tapering.
 
Suboxone works wonders and its a lot easier to taper off suboxone plus WD are lighter IMO. Takes away all physical WD symptoms and mental cravings.. for me anyway. Don't worry, there is light at the end of the tunnel my friend.
 
krock619 said:
I see a lot of people talk about certain types of meds to help with wd. I know that talk about how to acquire drugs is not allowed here but can I ask would these types of drugs in small amounts be prescribed by a doc of they know what they are being used for? I know. ... Random ass question that would very from doc to doc but, is this common at all?
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Can you ask a doctor for a drug to use as it's supposed used? Uh... yeah, suboxone only has one indication as far as I know, and that's opioid addiction. Lol, it's not likely he'll tell you no because he thinks you will get hooked on addictive drugs (unless you're drug of choice is codeine and you're doing like 10 mg twice a day...)

It's like only being allowed to own a car if you don't drive it.


People keep mentioning maintenance drugs, both you and the OP are using fairly low doses of opioids, I wouldn't use anything prescribed by a doctor unless you can get your doctor to do a rapid taper 4-5 days or less. He and you are taking fairly low doses of a short half-life drug. Getting on methadone or suboxone for extended periods of time ("maintaining") can produce acute W/D symptoms that last many months, but may be less intense. The withdrawals from oxycodone/hydrocodone/heroin will be painful but quick, unless you're doing large quantities of drugs and you knowyou can't stop - meaning you have tried tapering and run out of solutions - maintenance is a long term solution to a shorter duration problem.

It's for people in pretty deep so they can deal with life by itself without worrying about craving a drug. The pros and cons must be weighed on a case by case basis, and it would seem to be detrimental to you.

Don't let it seem like I'm knocking these two drugs, they have saved countless lives, and extensively improved many more, but you need to be at a certain level of drug abuse.

Whosajiggawaaa said:
Stop before it gets worse. What you feeling now is nothing. Don't mean to be callous but it will only get worse.
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Bob Loblaw said:
Yeah, a short taper--I'm talking a weekend--is what I recommend.
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To the OP and krock this can't be stressed enough.

The noose only gets tighter, not only the acute W/Ds but the PAWS as well. Please let us know what you choose and how it works!



At one point I could only buy two weeks worth monthly of oxy and methadone. I'd do oxy for a few (3-5) days and then methadone for more, so like 12-15 days. It was shitty, but I got higher the next time around. Finding H means unlimited quantity (though I'm not a daily user of H, I generally take loperamide), major depression at the time made me not give a shit.

It (lope) removed the short term agony but dug a deeper hole, I'll have to crawl out eventually, at least my use isn't too outrageous.
 
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Thanks for the reply. I wasn't necessarily referring to suboxone, I meant meds like benzos and others that keep you comfortable through wd. I've never considered subs. If/when I do decide to crush my addiction I will go down the taper road and rely on my will to get me thru. I also have kratom at my disposal (which I've never tried). I think I'm just asking more about anti anxiety drugs and if a doc would give you those for the purpose of wd
 
To OP - alot of people simply don't have the time to go through w/d's. i see some replies saying to "call it a bad flu" but some people aren't able to call out sick because the daily responsibilities don't allow for any down-time. i'm in that situation now. the only thing to do in that situation is to taper down as much as you can, while still staying functional enough to get your responsibilities taken care of. i wouldn't recommend going on suboxone unless you planned to stay on it long-term. if you're trying to get off opiates completely then you should stick with oxy since it has a shorter half-life.
 
Yea I didn't have time to go through WD because of work (I am an EMT) also being how its 3-5 days for it.. I suggested suboxone/subutex because that will definitey help there. And its easier to wean yourself iff of suboxone as it doesn't get you high very much at smaller amounts. Work WONDERS for me..... good luck and stay focused! You have too much to lose over some pills.
 
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