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I Almost Got High Today, or did I ?

Murphy and TMM have it right on.

I lost all sympathy when the did I get high thread came about.
 
Hammilton said:
I lost all sympathy when the did I get high thread came about.
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Why?...Iis it beacuse you dont think a person in my state should not be chasing a high?

Well I havent been for the past 8 years, I've focused on recovering and improving my health and managing my pain but life gets stressful when you lose everything your passionate about due to a disability. Do you know what it feels like to lose everything that you love and not be able to do a lot of the simple things people take granted for like going to the beach on a summers day or walking outside in the sun due to the overheating? losing the ability to sweat and having to wear a cooling vest and carrying a water bottle spray everywhere you go, To go from a normal and exciting life to to being disabled overnight, having to rely on your parents for supervision all the time whenever you want to get out of the house, to lose your social life, all your friends, your job, to lose the ability to go out for a drink, to do excercise or run without your heart flipping out, to be able to go out for a dance at club or rave ever again, to be alone because of your illnes and to feel even more isolated having a rare problem that no one can fix or be bothered taking on, to having all your vitals constantly mess up on you due to Dysautonomia, being in pain all the time...and to face all of it sober.

Maybe not by choice but Ive been %100 sober and straight untill recently, I dont understand why your taking the moral high ground here when a lot of you guys are able to have the ocassional drink and or take other drugs which I cant even do...

I seriously need an outlet to escape from all this shit im stuck with and catching an occasional buzz wouldn't be so bad.

If you getthe time pls read my response to Murhphy and TMM and get back to me on how it is that you think their still right in thinking its psychosamatic ?
 
Indeed while it may be otherwise there is a strong chance that it is some form of conversion disorder with psychosomatic underpinnings

Are you phobic in any ways? generally depressive even prior to this situation?
 
Guys I know my body well enough, and I promise you this is not a psychosamatic issue, even family doctors who didnt know what Dysautonomia was at first claimed my autonomic symptoms were anxiety until I found a Neurologist who proved otherwise via autonomic tests so it makes no sense to claim one half of my illness that occured as a result of the overdose to be diagnosed as Dysautonomia and dismiss the other half to be psychosamatic...

Im not depressive, you simply cant afford to be be depressive when you have Dysautonomia as I do because it only adds to the problem, you have to accept things and move on the best you can, I dont have any psychological type problems, or anxiety, my sleeping is great, im fairly motivated, my only phobia is spiders lol =D Have you read conversion disorder? None of the symptoms match mine..how many people do you know that can increase their body temperature by a few degrees by being anxious?

If people choose to belive its anxiety related because my condition dosen't make sense and there is no other cases documented out there then I guess its fair to say that theres also no cases documented of anyone in any psychiatric related literature claming to have the symptoms I do even within psychiatry.... touche.. It works both ways....:p

Even if yous dont belive me, hypotheticaly speaking what sort of damage would need to occur for someone to develop immideate hypersensitivity to recreational drugs resulting in mainly hyperthermia which they never used to have prior to an overdose?
 
Even if yous dont belive me, hypotheticaly speaking what sort of damage would need to occur for someone to develop immideate hypersensitivity to recreational drugs resulting in mainly hyperthermia which then never had prior to an overdose?
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Speaking hypothetically:

The most common cause of hyperthermia that is drug-related comes from the uses of amphetamines and derivatives, with MDMA often causing the short-term version of this condition. Heat stroke, seizures, and other direct physical ailments can also alter the hypothalamus gland in the brain, responsible for (among other things) regulation of body temperature. Out of curiosity, have you seen an oncologist? There are tumors that can cause this condition as well and I don't want to entirely rule that out as a possibility.

There is a muscle relaxant called dantrolene (Brand Name: Dantrium) that acts centrally to fight malignant hyperthermia, but whether or not this would help in your case remains to be seen. I'd say gather as much knowledge from here as possible and schedule another meeting with your doctor/doctors, since by this point I'd say it's likely you've got more than one.

FWIW
 
something at sometimes somewhere probably miswired your body's thermostat and you have this odd outcome of temperature regulation disorder

how this manifested and how it can be treated is another thing

you may want to try other agents for analgesia that do not (or may not) produce the situation

what agents cause this and what agents do not that you have taken as maybe we can find insight there...
 
Again *yawn*:

It is highly IMPROBABLE that somebody develops an intolerance toward several different classes of compounds, including diverse opioids, THC, alcohol etc. The structures are just too different to provoke cross-reactions. 'Allergy' (or however you'd like to call it) occurs not in such an unspecific way.
The psychosomatic explanation remains the most probable one so far...

You are heavily underestimating the power of imagination, pal!

- Murphy
 
Murphy...I understand what your saying, that every compound is different and act on different receptors, some release histamine some dont but im not stupid man im not claiming I get the same response due to the same action what im saying is even within different opioids the adverse reactions vary greatly but one thing they have in common for me is the overheating which occurs regardless anyways on a daily basis due to the Autonomic Dysfunction I have.

What im saing is the pre-existing overheating symptom is further worsened into hyperthermia by any compound that causes further shifts in my autonomic balance wether its due a stimulating effect or a depressant effects of psychoactive drugs or or going from sleeping to waking up mode or the brain chemical released during sexual ctivity the outcome is always manifests itself as severe overheating.

If you google keywords like Dysautonomia and overheating you will see its already a trait of autonomic related illnesses like multiple sclerosis, and Postural Orthastatic Tachycardia Syndrome or other forms of autonomic dysfunction so how can you claim the overheating I get on a daily basis is part of my illness but the overheating I get from adverse reactions is psychosamatic when they both feel similar in nature and lack any emotional response ?
 
Oh sweet lord, can we all at least assume that this man (the OP) does not have a psychosomatic disorder or anything like that? We've been back and forth on this, and we can keep doing this dance all night, or we can actually answer the specific questions this man has so he can make an informed decision between himself and his doctors as to what the cause may be.

I'm not stepping on your toes here Murph, or anyone else for that matter, but if I have to read "psychosomatic" one more time I may overheat myself, haha.
 
Nuff said, Ive caused enoff of a fuss around here , im sure people are tired of hearing bout my crap and repeating myself only makes me look stubborn, whining, and desperate..

Thanks to everyone who helped....

Its bad enoff having this illness but then to be doubted all cause im stuck with something that dosent make sense only frustrates me more...I think this is gods cruel joke for allowing me to survive an overdose which i was sure i would kill me at the time. Looks like in return for my life i traded an illness so twisted that im doomed to be mocked and doubted without ever finding a cure for.

Its a strange world and all i can say in my defense is I stumbled upon a recepie for disaster perhaps the fact that overdose happened during sex possibly with tainted drugs is the key to understanding the mess it caused, and the fact that I further tampered and pushed the allergic reaction i developed soon after untill i developed full blown Dysautonomia only complicated things into even a bigger mess. I know without a doubt those factors hold the mystery to unlocking my condition because any other scenario where an overdose happens without any additional factors other than the drugs would not have produced a result as complex as this. maybe in the upcomming years there migh be other cases like mine but until then......

MODS Please lock my delusional thread and sorry for any incovenince in ADD i wont post about this again.
 
you are not whacked so don't be hard on yourself it is just that being this is so far askew of the norm many will assume it is not 'legit' in some manner

you have as well likely a form of Chemical Sensitivty Syndrome which makes any chemical use exascerbate your pre-existing miswiring and tendency to hyperthermia

without running thousands upon thousands of dollars of tests on you there is no way to gauge with sound scientific authority what is perhaps the root cause and than even than it may not be able to e ascertained

I lump this under X-Diagnosis conditions as there is no hard evidence that can be found to be the root cause...some others in this category include Fibromyalgia (they were all crazy at one time too and now it is highly accepted), CPS/RSDS, et al.

Now indeed some of those who have these may have psychosomatic underpinnings, but it appears many do not at all...we are all to some degree affected physically by our mental state and disposition of course

PM me if you want to discuss this further as I have some ideas as I have treated those with these conditions where MDs have failed...(oh and by treated I mean treated with kindness as not being an MD myself I guess I have no knowledge of anything and of course no right to actually treat any medical condition, but my brand of 'kindness' seems a lot more effective than 99% of their crap ;)=D)
 
^^^ Read this: http://www.aafp.org/afp/980901ap/magill.html

They offer advice for physicians on dealing with Chemical Sensitivity, but offer this caveat:

"[MCS] has been rejected as an established organic disease by the American Academy of Allergy and Immunology, the American Medical Association, the California Medical Association, the American College of Physicians, and the International Society of Regulatory Toxicology and Pharmacology. It may be the only ailment in existence in which the patient defines both the cause and the manifestations of his own condition. Despite this, it has achieved credibility in workmen's [sic] compensation claims, tort liability, and regulatory actions."

It always SEEMED kinda weird and hippie dippie and bogus - like, an excuse to sell some product that's this-and-that-free at jacked up prices to freaked out yuppie mothers :P But I don't want to discount it completely, as that's not really my place or my intention.
 
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