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hydroponic versus organic?

shamanicmike

shamanicmike

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is organic marijuania alot more physically and mentally healthier for you than hydroponic marijuania?

in my experience organic marijuania is much more of a smooth high, when im on it im still motivated, less depressed and its way more psychadelic!

hydro weed makes me have depressed thoughts and such.

could it be all the pesticides put in hydro weed? and the fact that increased amounts of tar and carbon monoxide in hydro mixed with the increased amount of THC can make it more harmful/addictive?
 
Hmm, rather complex question...

Most of the differences between highs come from the strain. However, a lot of it boils down to growing method, nutrients used for growing, and individual care given to the plants. Growing hydroponically is just using water as a medium instead of dirt. It doesn't mean there are pesticides or anything put in, although there could be. But then again, there could be pesticides in dirt-grown weed as well. Also, there's nothing about growing hydroponically that makes the cannabis have increased levels of tar and carbon monoxide... in fact, weed doesn't have carbon monoxide at all. That's just a byproduct of combustion (burning it with fire). You could use a vaporizer to eliminate this problem. Also, there's nothing about growing hydroponically that makes weed have higher levels of THC.

Now, also, organically-grown tends to mean that organic (non-chemical) nutrients and additives were used. This definitely will improve the flavor and smell and purity of the resulting product. However, realize that organic nutrients can also be used in a hydroponic system. Generally, people growing hydroponically are trying to mass-produce, and thus, they may not use the best ingredients for their project. But this certainly does not have to be the case.

All that being said, there's definitely a difference in appearance and smell between organic and hydroponic growing. However, I'd bet that the reason you experience such a difference in highs is primarily due to the hydroponic weed you're getting being more mass-produced, and thus less care was given to each, coupled with a strain being used that is better suited for hydro growing and is not the same as the organically-grown bud you've received.

Basically what it boils down to is that the organic weed you've been getting has probably been grown more skillfully and with greater care and better nutrients.
 
Organic every time. Don't get me wrong, hydro is better than ok, it just doesn't taste nearly as good IMO.
 
Organic

Hydroponics is nothing special, gotta add all the nutrients and what not......I dont know much about hydroponics anyhow so i mite as well not try to explain shit lol but meet any grower and he will tell you his personal stash is organic (9/10 times).
 
Xorkoth said:
However, realize that organic nutrients can also be used in a hydroponic system.
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I think you mean the other way around, hydro nutes can be used for organic grows. I don't see anyone adding some worm castings to his DWC set-up that fast. ;)

I don't think the difference in effects you experience is from hydro vs dirt but simply from the strain that was used.
 
I just mean organic as in, produced organically and not chemically. Like Fox Farm products for example. They make lines of products for both soil and hydro.

And you definitely have to add nutrients regularly to a soil setup as well, if you plan to produce top quality nugs :)
 
So what do you call Organic? how about Bio? or hydro-organic?
The term means so many things depending where you live , Cali has
one standard vs other states not to mention other countries.

Back in `94 I was part of test group(NL) in which we were asked say what bud was hydro vs organic, outta approx. 2000 testers it was 50/50 meaning nobody could really tell what was what.
 
Blowmonkey said:
I think you mean the other way around, hydro nutes can be used for organic grows. I don't see anyone adding some worm castings to his DWC set-up that fast..
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Will thats not true as you can add many "organic nutes" to a hydro setup without problems. I grow peppers/tomatoes in ebb/flow , aeroponic setups using hydro nutes and also add wormcastings/bat shit to the tank without any `funk growing in the water. I have been growing hydro since early 90`s indoors/outdoors along with growing in soil- mostly organic nutes.

No I do not grow pot.
 
Sure ya don't. ;) But that's kinda odd, why would you do that? In hydro set-ups you usually want to have control over your EC and nutrient intake of the plants, organic products are highly variable in their values, so if anything, using organic nutes in a hydro set-up might pose problems.
 
Blowmonkey said:
Sure ya don't.
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I`ll say again I Do Not grow pot! please don`t joke about this.

Blowmonkey said:
But that's kinda odd, why would you do that? In hydro set-ups you usually want to have control over your EC and nutrient intake of the plants, organic products are highly variable in their values, so if anything, using organic nutes in a hydro set-up might pose problems.
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I did it just to see if it could be done and yes it works just fine, also Growing Edge magazine has covered this for yrs. The only problem has been with the aeroponic system, it can be touchy using crude "unaged" nutes - ie FOAM.
 
Deadwing said:
If you're getting depressed thoughts do what I did, stop.
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thanx for the heads up. but ive already been through the worst with pot and it is embedded in my psyche not to abuse the drug. so i just toke on special occasions.

well it sounds like organic is the way to go (hydro or dirt).
i think i will grow my own so i know exactly what im getting.

thanx for the advice xorkoth and everyone.
 
umm i love people saying that hydroponic isnt better than outdoor bud. Its a complete false statement unless your talking about on average, meaning include cheap poor closet jobs, using nowhere near enough watts per plant, also including plants that were grown indoors under lights, but just in peat moss, soil or rockwool, and all the variations of quanity, quality and conditions.

But by the nature of the question, if you got an extremly experienced cultivator (that knows his particular flowering solutions, nutrition mixes etc for hydro off by heart and then the same for the organic side of things outdoors, you know the kind of grower i mean, that really knows his shit) that put the same clones both indoor and out, to say the better bud will be grown outdoor is ridiculous.

Sunlight is fine and dandy, so is outdoor soil and air, but it cant compete with 300 odd watts per plant, directly concentrated on the plant and its lower buds, and a strict 'goodness only' diet for the plant, flushing it 48 hours before its cut in complete darkness etc, these arent things you can do outside.
Aside from bugs, birds and other pests, dope plants outdoors have to deal with water on the buds, rough wind etc.
A professional hydroponic system is controlled in every aspect, light, air, temperature, light concentration, nutrients.

Anyone thats smoked the PRIMO hydro weed knows what im talking about. I was lucky enough to be given a gift of some such weed (white rhino x white widow) and it was almost like the onset of ketamine, i have an obscenly high weed tolerance, but even i neally tipped off balance a few times, head all over the place :P

In saying that, outdoor bud grown with some intelligence on the growers part will beat down poor or average hydro any day of the week.
I also would rarely see a pound per plant ratio on outdoor bud (1 season, from seed or clone to flowering stage) but its not uncommon on sophisticated hydroponic systems.
Other than that hydro dope always just smells stronger, has more trichromes, and is on average a lot more dense than bush weed in my opinion

But the dankest buds come from under the lights my friends, cant argue with the calyx (and trichrome ;) ) to leaf ratio of hydro sorry guys :)
 
I personally love the smell and taste of some good homegrown marijuana :) However, I've had some hydro that was out of this world. I mean, I'd say that the homegrown I've had compared to the hydro, is very similar in how high I got and how quickly, but the highs were fairly different. I guess it's all up to opinion on this topic...
 
This thread is confusing. so would anyone say that well grown hydroponic will yeild more bud and be healthier overall than growing outside in dif weather conditions and other conditions? It seems no light could be better for plants than pure sunlight but i dunno.
 
Outdoor buds will tend to yield more, both because the plants get bigger and because, as you said, no light is better for a plant than natural sunlight. However, it tends to be hard to control the quality of outdoor buds because of the fact that there's weather, animals, and dirt flying all around. Outdoor buds will usually not taste as good, smell as good, or look as good, but they'll yield higher.

Of course this is all generalization. My recommendation is to grow organically indoors in a controlled setup that you engineered.
 
It really depends on what i feel like at the time. smoking hydro lately has been giving me a headache so i thought i'd try some organic and BAM no headache at all.

my fav. organic outdoor is grown in glasshouses, really nice sativa head trip.
 
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