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Opioids Hydromorphone (dilaudid), having trouble getting anything out of it.

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So I take dillies for neck pain, which is non-existent currently so I have a bunch of pills laying around.
I tried snorting them, nasty bitter taste in my throat. Tried dissolving in water, and snorting, same effect.
I did however get high both times off of 4mg.

Today however was a different experience, decided to avoid the bitter and plug them. did 4mg again, nothing. At all.
Then I decided a while later, fuck it, I'll do it subcutaneously, nothing at all. What the hell?
How does snorting get me more fucked up than any of that? Shouldn't it be the other way around? What did I do wrong?

I have been feeling paranoid most of the day though, wondering if that has anything to do with it. Like a weird uneasiness that I don't normally feel when taking them haha.

Any ideas on how to do the pills without the bitter taste?
 
Why did you do it subcutaneously? Would it not make more sense to IV if you are dead set on using a needle? Subcutaneous injections are very dangerous if not done with liquid made for SC injection. They can cause abscess which can turn nasty.
 
Iv will get out of hand easy. It's not hard to end up doing. 12+ mg. Be careful with ul your choices as it's not a good habit to have
 
Bambooshoot said:
Why did you do it subcutaneously? Would it not make more sense to IV if you are dead set on using a needle? Subcutaneous injections are very dangerous if not done with liquid made for SC injection. They can cause abscess which can turn nasty.
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I read that it was better than IVing, used purified water, good enough? Also, I don't have very visible veins, doctors always struggle trying to find a vein on me so I figured I'd rather not risk missing a vein or something. And I hate needles and it would be more painful to try and hit a vein haha
 
tacodude said:
Iv will get out of hand easy. It's not hard to end up doing. 12+ mg. Be careful with ul your choices as it's not a good habit to have
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Eh, I take big breaks between stuff. Like last I snorted (twice), both times was a week apart. And I only have so many pills left, they prescribed those and methocarbam (useless) and told me I'll only be getting more of the latter if I need it cause they don't want me getting a dependency.
 
Just a fair warning. IMO iv is pointless if you got enough to manage your needs. The rush is not anything special from iv and it's not like you have to worry about having to account for the lower bioavailability with your dose. However dissolving in water, using a micron filter (recently used sterilfits with really good results), and put into a nasal sprayer would probably be a good idea.

Some will find it funny, but the narcan nasal spray device thing that can be obtained pretty easy is easy to replace the solution inside with dope. The thing that was really neat was the nasal spray attachment that could fit a syringe while it also has a really convenient travel capability so it doesn't look like your walking around with rigs... Just don't let someone mistake it for narcan when it's needed.
 
Just snorted them the way I did the first time (although 2mg more) and made sure to lay back and have something in my mouth so the drip doesn't taste as bad. No effect whatsoever. It's weird, is it possible I've developed a tolerance so fast? The first two times I was high about the same, and then plugging and injecting didn't do anything for me. And now even snorting has no effect. hmm.

Also, has anyone else notice that milk makes the drip significantly worse?
 
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It's easy to build tolerance. Less than a week I went from 2 mg shots to 8 only to decide on quitting opiates the next week after 16 mg was like baseline high no nods.

Edit: I'll add I kept a nasal spray narcan setup next to me although it's not smart to inject alone as a user will realize to late it's an od to do something most of the time.
 
tacodude said:
It's easy to build tolerance. Less than a week I went from 2 mg shots to 8 only to decide on quitting opiates the next week after 16 mg was like baseline high no nods.

Edit: I'll add I kept a nasal spray narcan setup next to me although it's not smart to inject alone as a user will realize to late it's an od to do something most of the time.
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Didn't think it was gonna affect me cause it usually hits me fairly fast, but wow now I'm feeling so nauseous. I think it's because I split it up into more lines than I did last time, and now it's just hitting me hard.

Edit: Threw up pretty hard haha, went to the bathroom as the nausea got really bad (though even when I was taking them regularly as pain pills and felt the nausea, I never threw up), I ended up projectile vomiting all over. Oh well.
 
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Be careful. I see you going down the same path I did. Dilaudid was my first opiate.
 
I love dillies theyre my favorite opiate. Break down 2 and blow em and you should be feeling great. Ive taken up to 24mg before but i would highly suggest not doing that as im very opiate tolerant
 
Opiates<3 said:
I love dillies theyre my favorite opiate. Break down 2 and blow em and you should be feeling great. Ive taken up to 24mg before but i would highly suggest not doing that as im very opiate tolerant
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I did 3 (2mg each), figured as I usually do 2 and have a good high but not a strong one, I'd try 3. Yesterday none of the other methods worked so I thought I'd snort today and see if I lost all tolerance or only don't have any with other methods. Felt only nausea after a while. Hmm.
 
Please do not start IVing Dilaudid. It is a terrible addiction. Hydromorphone has a MUCH shorter half-life than heroin, so when addicted, you'll barely be finished the rush before you're starting to withdraw and prepping your next shot. Stick to sniffing.
 
In my experience the rush from IV hydromorphone is amazing, far and beyond anything you might get from snorting it or plugging it. In fact in terms of the raw intensity of the rush it beats every opiate except oxymorphone. It's not as pleasurable, per se, as heroin, but it's certainly more intense. The type of rush that is almost uncomfortable and gives you that crazy pins and needles feeling, like morphine on steroids. You have to find the right dosage of course.

That being said, it has absolutely no legs and the high wears off very quickly. The quality of the high itself is poor and sedating compared to heroin and oxycodone. Relatively little euphoria - good for breakthrough pain, not so hot for pleasure. There's a reason they're so cheap on the street.

Because the effect wears off so quickly, using it IV could get nasty very quickly. Tolerance skyrockets with regular use and you might find yourself doing quadruple the dosage to get the same rush. I'd imagine it's easy to fall into a pattern of round-the-clock injections. I've never understood how people can sustain an opiate addiction using only Dilaudid, it must be hell. I've only ever used them as a treat between bags of heroin, and only to experience the powerful rush. The high never held me more than a couple hours.

I would recommend avoiding IV injection, the rush is great but not worth the risks. If you are going to inject pills, for god sake do NOT do an SC injection, you're just begging for an abscess. Plus you're missing out on the rush which is the whole point of injecting opiates. Use fresh syringes, sterile water, and a micron filter, and spend some time finding a good vein. Do some pushups, take a walk or a hot shower, learn to use a tourniquet. If you still have virgin veins you should be able to find a brachial vein on the inside of your elbow, there are three good ones there.
 
Felonious Monk said:
Please do not start IVing Dilaudid. It is a terrible addiction. Hydromorphone has a MUCH shorter half-life than heroin, so when addicted, you'll barely be finished the rush before you're starting to withdraw and prepping your next shot. Stick to sniffing.
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FM is right. The rush is great IV but the high subsides within an hour. I tried snorting a 4mg dilaudid, did nothing really, but when I went to IV the next one I knew where they would be going from there.

If you have a pain condition, I would suggest trying to conserve your meds and use them for pain, or sell the dillies and get something that lasts longer.
 
Yeah just snort the damn things. The bioavailability is higher than plugging, which is roughly the same as oral administration.

It's strange, and while it takes more drug to have effect, there is a much better 'high' with snorting than with IV use of dillies. If I didn't have such a needle fixation and a greater supply I'd prefer to snort them rather than inject.

Listen to the above posters that have said that you really don't want an IV dilly addiction, it IS hell, I've been IV'ing those damn things for years! It's an incredibly compulsive addiction with the mad balls rush you get from pushing them!
 
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