I took 8 mg hydromorphone at 10 am, and another 8 mg at 4 pm today. it is now 11:33 pm would it be safe to take more or do u guys think I'm at my limit, I don't feel any real effects anymore except for that wayward "offness" one gets after the main effects of an opiate are over, and maybe a little tired but that's it, I just can't sleep... so I kinda wanna do a little more. I just don't know if it's a good idea, not because I'm still high or anything just cause I don't do hydromorph ever and my usual tolerance is 40 mg hydrocodone per dose.... the half life is suppose to be 2-3 hours for hydromorph? or does some stick around making it possibly dangerous to take more at this point?... I just did a pupil check they react fine to dark/light transition. going from small-large in darkness then back to small in light. is this any type of indication?
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Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) Half-life and dosing questions
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TheLostBoys
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I recommend you dont do anymore & get a good night sleep. DO more tomorrow when you are refreshed & ready to go.
This is probably pointless since you've probably either took it or went to sleep by now, but for future reference, I cant count how many times I've re-dosed later in the day trying to get high again and it just turned into a huge waste.
I've always found the higher the initial dose, the less I'll feel it if I re-dose.
When it comes to the scientific stuff I can't really help u tho
I've always found the higher the initial dose, the less I'll feel it if I re-dose.
When it comes to the scientific stuff I can't really help u tho
cool, I took lost boys advice since I had taken so much previously, problem was though the short ass half life of hydromorphone.. so I finally made it to bed around 2 am. and went to sleep after some afrin to clear my pill clogged Honker.... and then BAM>>> 5 am comes a mere 3 hours later I wake up legs in cramps, sweat pouring out of every orifice and stumble into the bathroom to throw up and then simultaneously shit, withdrawal had hit me HARD and apparantly much harder than ever before just from the 3 day hydromorphone binge.. I was using it to keep from WD from Tramadol to begin with but all of it together culminated in the shittiest 5 am wake up call I've ever had......
so I guess I should've took at least a lil more before I hit to hay to at least hold me, considering it's short half life and that I took my last dose at 4 pm., I stumbled in the kitchen Nose already clogged back up, and shaved down 1 and a half more pills, then panicked when I realized I could not snort them. feeling the tremendous weight of withdrawal and blowing my nose to no effort, both nostrils were plugged to the max---- I got out the afrin again. I know bad Idea but I kinda had no choice at the time
so after a few drops and a lil patience I snorted that 1 and a half pills and a few minutes later was able to get back to sleep..........
Then I was awaken by my daughter and my Girl at 9 am screaming at me to go kill a huge spider suspended from our ceiling by a string of web.,,,,, and guess what yep in Full Withdrawal again I just got done snorting 4 of my 5 last pills and am starting to feel a decent buzz kick in....
In summary this is NOT for me....../
I am SO so SO sos osso sosososoososoos SOOOOO glad my Tramadol is coming today I could NOT do this short half life, clogged nose snorting deal for much longer. Hydro morph is nice but the euphoria snorted is just not the same even as weaker opies orally AND the nose issue and the wd coming so quickly are BIG turn offs..... I would consider shooting this shit if I get it again just to skip the unpleasant nose side effects.... in fact now because of this escapade I'm gonna be stuck with a shitty, clogged, runny nose for at least several days now even after no snorting i'm sure, due to the fact that I have to snort SO many of those lil bitches to get a buzz on.... multiple times a day.. snorting 4 pills a time 2-3 times a day is a nose killer for sure and I am glad this is not my ROA and or drug of choice.
My much weaker but much more stimulating (which makes me happy) tramadol will be enough for me,... Now I just hope I havent' shot my tolerance up enough to where the tram doesn't cover wd for me now in the usual doses..... eh this sucks... thanks for responding ya'll
so I guess I should've took at least a lil more before I hit to hay to at least hold me, considering it's short half life and that I took my last dose at 4 pm., I stumbled in the kitchen Nose already clogged back up, and shaved down 1 and a half more pills, then panicked when I realized I could not snort them. feeling the tremendous weight of withdrawal and blowing my nose to no effort, both nostrils were plugged to the max---- I got out the afrin again. I know bad Idea but I kinda had no choice at the time
so after a few drops and a lil patience I snorted that 1 and a half pills and a few minutes later was able to get back to sleep..........
Then I was awaken by my daughter and my Girl at 9 am screaming at me to go kill a huge spider suspended from our ceiling by a string of web.,,,,, and guess what yep in Full Withdrawal again I just got done snorting 4 of my 5 last pills and am starting to feel a decent buzz kick in....
In summary this is NOT for me....../
I am SO so SO sos osso sosososoososoos SOOOOO glad my Tramadol is coming today I could NOT do this short half life, clogged nose snorting deal for much longer. Hydro morph is nice but the euphoria snorted is just not the same even as weaker opies orally AND the nose issue and the wd coming so quickly are BIG turn offs..... I would consider shooting this shit if I get it again just to skip the unpleasant nose side effects.... in fact now because of this escapade I'm gonna be stuck with a shitty, clogged, runny nose for at least several days now even after no snorting i'm sure, due to the fact that I have to snort SO many of those lil bitches to get a buzz on.... multiple times a day.. snorting 4 pills a time 2-3 times a day is a nose killer for sure and I am glad this is not my ROA and or drug of choice.
My much weaker but much more stimulating (which makes me happy) tramadol will be enough for me,... Now I just hope I havent' shot my tolerance up enough to where the tram doesn't cover wd for me now in the usual doses..... eh this sucks... thanks for responding ya'll
NeighborhoodThreat
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^ It sounded like (from your other thread regarding hydromorphone) you were already pretty high from snorting it (and your nose was pretty clogged! 
) so hopefully you just saved the rest.
) so hopefully you just saved the rest.yeah, did u read the post i just made? it details my horror story of last night..... I tried to break it up into readable paragraphs.
But in summary basically I did save it,, and Then woke up at 5 am in severe WD and couldn't snort any due to clogged nose so I shotgunned some afrin, took 1 and a half more and was able to get a little sleep, till 9 am when my girl and daughter demanded me up to kill a spider, and i was again in severe withdrawal, I am snorting the rest as we speak and feeling much better, honestly I am glad it's gone and eagerly awaiting the arrival of my DOC today------ don't laugh but my DOC is ------ Tramadol-------- I like it for it's stimulating qualities more than anything else, sucks that it carries such a heavy WD penalty for it's use
Edit: I've been using Tramadol exclusively for about 2 years now... I have gotten up to 800 mg a day which I know is dangerous but I've never had any ill effects, so NT you don't think that my 3 day adventure with this much more potent substance has ruined my tolerance to the point where my Tram won't cover wd and have any effects do u?
also I am aware I've made 3 threads in the last 24 hours about these similar topics, I'm out of the hydromorph so no more issues are needed answered on that subject anymore, you may merge or close as u feel appropriate now and Thanks again for being so understanding with my threads mr. Threat...
Peace
B
But in summary basically I did save it,, and Then woke up at 5 am in severe WD and couldn't snort any due to clogged nose so I shotgunned some afrin, took 1 and a half more and was able to get a little sleep, till 9 am when my girl and daughter demanded me up to kill a spider, and i was again in severe withdrawal, I am snorting the rest as we speak and feeling much better, honestly I am glad it's gone and eagerly awaiting the arrival of my DOC today------ don't laugh but my DOC is ------ Tramadol-------- I like it for it's stimulating qualities more than anything else, sucks that it carries such a heavy WD penalty for it's use
Edit: I've been using Tramadol exclusively for about 2 years now... I have gotten up to 800 mg a day which I know is dangerous but I've never had any ill effects, so NT you don't think that my 3 day adventure with this much more potent substance has ruined my tolerance to the point where my Tram won't cover wd and have any effects do u?
also I am aware I've made 3 threads in the last 24 hours about these similar topics, I'm out of the hydromorph so no more issues are needed answered on that subject anymore, you may merge or close as u feel appropriate now and Thanks again for being so understanding with my threads mr. Threat...
Peace
B
NeighborhoodThreat
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Oh wow, there's nothing to be ashamed of, by the way...
It is possible (actually probable) that your use of hydromorphone has increased your tolerance for opiates, but I seriously doubt that it has increased your tolerance to a level where you can only take hydromorphone or other more potent opiates. Tramadol will still work, just maybe not as well.
However, I am a bit concerned about the dosage of tramadol that you're taking (I know you mentioned you haven't had any ill effects from 800mg, most likely simply due to tolerance), but I would be very careful before you take any more. I'm sure you're aware of the risks of taking higher dosages of tramadol than your body is used to.
yes I am, and thank you for being concerned, my main concern in this area is the seizure possibility, however I have never had one in my life and (Knock on wood) hope that I won't...
It has gotten quite out of control.. the only opiate I've ever done that had a similar effect profile as far as mood elevating anti-depressant qualities is suboxone it just seemed similar and I used that for a few months recreationally, then when I was withdrawing from the sub I got into oxymorphone for a few weeks.... I could snort 10 mg at a time and be more euphoric than I've ever been, and after that I picked the tram right back up and it was still just as effective.
I think the reason being is that when I use tram I don't use it for the opiate effects they are just a plus.. but I enjoy the stimulating snri factor moreso.. see ever since I got out prison the last time all I did all day was drink beer and smoke weed all day every day, and be a bum never doing anything productive then I found tramadol and ALL that changed I didn't want or touch street drugs I immediately became a productive non criminal citizen.(and that's saying a lot for me because I have a record with *snip* felony convictions)
so it is entirely possible that I really just need to be on an snri such as effexor. it just makes me feel so more "normal" than I ever have at any point in my life, when on it, I clean the house, work on music, play with my daughter, get out and enjoy life.
Things that I have never done with much vigor before. . also I ususally suffer from extreme lethargy just never feel like doing anything... and cannot concentrate well.. but on tramadol that all went away, it's the only medicine that has ever done that for me... but the negative aspect and I guess an ill effect is that when I run out I suffer terrible withdrawals, so this seems to be quite a pickle I've gotten myself into lol
and those withdrawals that I experience from Tramadol is what made me turn to other opiates when I don't have it... it's the only reason I've ever done any stronger opiates actually just to escape horrible tramadol withdrawal, sort of shooting myself in the foot for a bunion so to speak... anyways that is my recent history. one thing that does suck is I have some acid and mushrooms waiting for me and I know I can't take them because my tramadol is coming soon lol.... but I don't have any desire to take anything drug related when I'm on tram.... just do stuff and be normal. and for me that is a welcome change.
but I do agree.. that the amounts I'm using has become fairly dangerous I need to do something about that..
eh lookie at me being chatty and rambling again I guess those last 5 dilaudid pills are kicking in fairly well... eh I'm gonna go play madworld, mario galaxy 2, and twilight princess for a while on my wii. and maybe let my daughter play the toddler game I downloaded for her yesterday. she loves it so much and it is one of the only games she can actually play successfully on her own at almost age 4....
It has gotten quite out of control.. the only opiate I've ever done that had a similar effect profile as far as mood elevating anti-depressant qualities is suboxone it just seemed similar and I used that for a few months recreationally, then when I was withdrawing from the sub I got into oxymorphone for a few weeks.... I could snort 10 mg at a time and be more euphoric than I've ever been, and after that I picked the tram right back up and it was still just as effective.
I think the reason being is that when I use tram I don't use it for the opiate effects they are just a plus.. but I enjoy the stimulating snri factor moreso.. see ever since I got out prison the last time all I did all day was drink beer and smoke weed all day every day, and be a bum never doing anything productive then I found tramadol and ALL that changed I didn't want or touch street drugs I immediately became a productive non criminal citizen.(and that's saying a lot for me because I have a record with *snip* felony convictions)
so it is entirely possible that I really just need to be on an snri such as effexor. it just makes me feel so more "normal" than I ever have at any point in my life, when on it, I clean the house, work on music, play with my daughter, get out and enjoy life.
Things that I have never done with much vigor before. . also I ususally suffer from extreme lethargy just never feel like doing anything... and cannot concentrate well.. but on tramadol that all went away, it's the only medicine that has ever done that for me... but the negative aspect and I guess an ill effect is that when I run out I suffer terrible withdrawals, so this seems to be quite a pickle I've gotten myself into lol
and those withdrawals that I experience from Tramadol is what made me turn to other opiates when I don't have it... it's the only reason I've ever done any stronger opiates actually just to escape horrible tramadol withdrawal, sort of shooting myself in the foot for a bunion so to speak... anyways that is my recent history. one thing that does suck is I have some acid and mushrooms waiting for me and I know I can't take them because my tramadol is coming soon lol.... but I don't have any desire to take anything drug related when I'm on tram.... just do stuff and be normal. and for me that is a welcome change.
but I do agree.. that the amounts I'm using has become fairly dangerous I need to do something about that..
eh lookie at me being chatty and rambling again I guess those last 5 dilaudid pills are kicking in fairly well... eh I'm gonna go play madworld, mario galaxy 2, and twilight princess for a while on my wii. and maybe let my daughter play the toddler game I downloaded for her yesterday. she loves it so much and it is one of the only games she can actually play successfully on her own at almost age 4....
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NeighborhoodThreat
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At those dosages, seizures are a real possibility, which is why I advise against increasing your dosage of tramadol.
If you're enjoying the SNRI effects, I recommend speaking to a doctor about your issue with tramadol addiction, a bit part of tramadol addiction is (addition to the opiate part) addiction to the SNRI effects. Speaking to a doctor may be the best course of action.
It does indeed sound like the hydromorphone is kicking in. Watch your dosages with that hydromorphone though, if you use it long enough, it will bring your opiate tolerance up even more.
Best of luck man!
opiatekrzy
Bluelighter
hydromorphone is just garbage, sooo short acting, duration as long as it takes for this drug to hit u and go away. i IVed this shit, all i got was the 8sec rush, no body buzz after, boom disappered, i hate this crap
well, it is more subtle than other opiates when insufflated.... euphoria wise... once I knew what effects to look for though, It felt pretty good... I wouldn't say it's garbage.. It's all up to what type of high or relief you are looking for. I don't IV but I heard that it's one of the best to Bang. And even though I don't IV, I don't have an aversion to needles I use to donate plasma twice a week... so If I actually had a rig and someone to show me how to "rig" it up safely so to speak, I probably would have tried it out with the "D"...
But.. I will say I enjoy more of the Energetic Euphoric Opiate high.. I like Stimulation.... so at first I thought it was Garbage myself... but make no mistake it's still Potent. the Warm, happy, Cloud of gooey opie love is still there. just not the uppity social everythings right with the world, let's do it all right now feeling I get with high dose hydrocodone and oxy.....
but Once I got my doses up to 8 mg at a time... then I started to feel a LiL more of that... .
I'd definitely say it's NOT garbage but I'd prefer Oxy.... I'd still take D in a heartbeat if offered it again..... and probably try to figure how to Mainline that biiiiish to get the most out of it too.
But.. I will say I enjoy more of the Energetic Euphoric Opiate high.. I like Stimulation.... so at first I thought it was Garbage myself... but make no mistake it's still Potent. the Warm, happy, Cloud of gooey opie love is still there. just not the uppity social everythings right with the world, let's do it all right now feeling I get with high dose hydrocodone and oxy.....
but Once I got my doses up to 8 mg at a time... then I started to feel a LiL more of that... .
I'd definitely say it's NOT garbage but I'd prefer Oxy.... I'd still take D in a heartbeat if offered it again..... and probably try to figure how to Mainline that biiiiish to get the most out of it too.
opiatekrzy
Bluelighter
^i guess i have to try it out some more again in the future, i personally like long acting opiates, morphine,methadone, not oxy, fent, etc...WD hits fast and harder
NeighborhoodThreat
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^/^^ To each their own for sure, I enjoy both the shorter-acting (like hydromorph) and the medium-acting like morphine.
bpayne, I just edited the title of your thread for easier searching in the future.
bpayne, I just edited the title of your thread for easier searching in the future.
NeighborhoodThreat
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Alright. Closed, question answered.
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