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Hydrocodone Question

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If I usually take 30 mg hydrocodone to get a nice high, will taking 40 mg make a difference? Like will the effects be boosted significantly? Are there different plateau's?
 
Yes, if 30mg gets you high, 40mg will just get you higher. It may last slightly longer if you're still opiate naive, but if you take it regularly it will probably still last the same amount of time as usual. Other than that, there's not much else different. The high should be better though.

Any negative side effects will be increased to, obviously. Such as respiratory depression, etc. You aren't in any danger adding 10mgs though to your dose. Just don't take any other depressants.
 
Also. ive read that high fat food will potentiate Hydrocodone. So should I eat after I take the pills or before? How long after/before? And what should I eat? 1 peanut butter cup? Tablespoon of peanut butter?
 
rc3mil said:
Also. ive read that high fat food will potentiate Hydrocodone. So should I eat after I take the pills or before? How long after/before? And what should I eat? 1 peanut butter cup? Tablespoon of peanut butter?
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Never heard of that before (idk about the legitmacy of that one tbh) but most potentiating methods are best when taken 1hr to 30min before dosing. (Btw It won't really make that much of a difference to potentiate if you're taking more than you normally take anyway)
 
If you get a nice high from 30 mg hydrocodone, I might warn you not to accept 40 mg as the new 'desired dose' because you enjoyed 40 mg more than 30 mg, which would very likely be the case. Treat it as a 'treat experience', something to be kept special. You will, probably, notice the difference to a significant degree in the strength of the opiate experience, but I do not think you could be in the face of much danger IF you can handle 30 mg without issue. There may, however, be some side-effects that could be more prominent, if you experience any on 30 mg, or possibly new ones if you don't experience side-effects at your 30 mg dose. In all of the above, I am talking about hydrocodone alone. You want to make sure you are not consuming too much APAP, very toxic to the liver, as it does exist in the most common hydrocodone preparations available. APAP's harm can be sneaky, for you don't always feel the toxic effects until it is too late - I advise using a CWE method, if you don't already, and if you are taking a decent amount of APAP (2 grams [2,000 mg] and over for a single dose is getting a bit unsafe). I don't know how much APAP there is within the particular preparation of hydrocodone, but sometimes there is quite a bit per pill. Really, do be careful about this - it is a very real, very present danger that takes more than just a few lives. Again, look into a CWE (Cold Water Extraction) - there are guides on how to do them easily here on BL and all over the internet.

One more thing on the hydrocodone; if nauseated, for you might be with a bit higher dose, lie down, or at the very least sit down - people often underestimate the control of opiate-nausea with simple techniques such as those.
 
rc3mil said:
Also. ive read that high fat food will potentiate Hydrocodone. So should I eat after I take the pills or before? How long after/before? And what should I eat? 1 peanut butter cup? Tablespoon of peanut butter?
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Pretty sure it's the opposite. Taking hydrocodone on a full stomach after a fatty meal dampens the effects and you get much less high. A lot of people say eating fatty foods while high kills their buzz.

This assumes it's taken orally.
 
Ya, I don't think there's much left with an 80% bioavailability, even if eating does potentiate it. I know that with Oxymorphone it works that way. IIRC a 50% boost to the oral bioavailability.

And while the risks for respiratory depression are slightly higher from taking the one other norco, more than likely, you'll just experience more irritability, itchiness, nausea...things like that.
 
I doubt there is much potentiation in regards to a fatty meal prior to dosing, if anything it would probably hinder its absorption, leading to a slower rise in peak plasma levels and a slower onset.

Now,as for the issue of jumping from 30mg to 40mg, I would have to side with the above and say that it's a decent jump ( 33% ) and maybe you should try adding 5mg at a time (nd that means per session) just to be sure you respond correctly.


http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/396416-New!-Cold-Water-Extraction-Mega-Thread-amp-FAQ

A CWE would also be in order, the link above is a good place to start. That is way too much APAP.
 
Stupid question but what does IIRC mean? I've also seen YMVV or something along those lines.

To the OP: if 30mg feels great, why go above that? You'll only be raising your tolerance and costing yourself more money. If you insist on doing so, try a CWE to get rid of the apap. And be careful because while it's "only" another 10mg, that's a 33% increase as venrak said which is pretty significant.
 
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