Hydrocodone metabolites question

[XoTillWeOverdose]

I'm a chronic pain patient and pick up my next meds in 8 days. Unfortunately I was a few days short so I just bought some morphine, hydrocodone and a few gabapentin. With the morphine and gaba, I'll likely have enough to make it through. (The morphine/Gabapentin I bought is the exact kind I'm prescribed too, so that works out well.)

Anyway, I once did hydrocodone and it showed up in my urine like 3 weeks later. I'm overweight and at that time, I had done a fair amount of hydros in 2 weeks. (Something like 40-70 pills in 2 weeks)

I don't know if I'll have a drug test or not in 8 days but I'll find out for sure on Tuesday or Wednesday. I likely won't have to take one at all however I don't know for sure or not. I've read so many say that hydrocodone is out of one's urine in 3-5 days but in the only time I ever tested this theory out for myself, it still showed up on a lab test 3 weeks later.

If I were to take these hydrocodone, would I be risking another 3 weeks of testing positive for the hydrocodone metabolites? At this point, I'm kind of thinking of saving them for a truly desperate situation because NOTHING is worth fucking with my chronic pain meds. However at the same time, I'm wondering how others can show clean urine after a few days and they were still in my piss 3 weeks later. Is being overweight causing the metabolites to show up so long? Am I better off just holding onto them until I'm in a truly desperate situation?

 

[Snafu in the Void]

PR -> BDD

First, drug testing questions are not allowed here, but we can discuss some of the other aspects of your question.

You tested postive 3 weeks after your last dose? That is extremely unusual, assuming this was a urinalysis. Opioid metabolites aren't stored in fat cells like THC, so weight wouldn't have a significant enough effect to cause a 5x increase in detection time.

If you were truly abstinent for 3 weeks and tested positive I suspect you may have a liver or metabolic anomaly. Or you may be on a medication which inhibits liver enzyme 3a4.

In this case yes, I would hold off because it will probably happen again.

Is it possible you're taking some other drug potentially laced?

Also, did the lab specify which opioid metabolites you tested positive for? They can generally tell. If you took hydrocodone you can test positive for that or hydromorphone (dilaudid) or codeine.

 

[XoTillWeOverdose]

PR -> BDD

First, drug testing questions are not allowed here, but we can discuss some of the other aspects of your question.

You tested postive 3 weeks after your last dose? That is extremely unusual, assuming this was a urinalysis. Opioid metabolites aren't stored in fat cells like THC, so weight wouldn't have a significant enough effect to cause a 5x increase in detection time.

If you were truly abstinent for 3 weeks and tested positive I suspect you may have a liver or metabolic anomaly. Or you may be on a medication which inhibits liver enzyme 3a4.

In this case yes, I would hold off because it will probably happen again.

Is it possible you're taking some other drug potentially laced?

Also, did the lab specify which opioid metabolites you tested positive for? They can generally tell. If you took hydrocodone you can test positive for that or hydromorphone (dilaudid) or codeine.

I deeply apologize for not realizing these sorts of questions weren't allowed and appreciate your reply, thanks so much for responding!

The lab was done by Kaiser and it was a urinalysis. It showed each substance they were testing for including several kinds of opioids, MDMA, cocaine, meth, etc. Next to the, "hydrocodone" field, it showed, "positive." I think it showed positive for hydromorphone as well which confused me because I haven't taken Diauldid in years.

I take Oxycodone & Morphine regularly and may have been on Gabapentin at the time as well but that would have been it. (All prescribed by my doctor.) I don't know if you know this, but do any of those medications inhibit liver function?

I know for a fact that they weren't laced and everything else I was taking at the time was prescribed by a doctor so none of that was laced, either.

Another question I have is would the amount I was taking prior have affected this at all? And as far as my liver not working correctly, could that been due to me being prescribed pain meds as a chronic pain patient since 2018? To be honest, that worries me the most here and I'm wondering if I should be talking to a doctor about my liver issues. Perhaps I'm overthinking that but it is strange my liver doesn't metabolize things correctly.

Again, thanks so much for responding! It sounds like holding off is the best thing I can do for now.

 

[Snafu in the Void]

It's OK, we just can't really talk about your upcoming test.

Opioids are generally not harmful to the liver, unless you already had a compromised one. But I don't mean to alarm you. If you've had bloodwork done in the last few years you're probably fine.

I'm just trying to hypothesize a positive test after 3 weeks. Even the heaviest use shouldn't show up beyond 8 or 9 days max under typical circumstances.

Were you also taking morphine and oxy as prescribed, but took hydrocodone on the side and that's what you failed for?

It's possible you just have an unusually slow metabolism. The amount you took would have some effect on urine detection time, but typically just a couple of days, not 2+ weeks.

 

[XoTillWeOverdose]

"Were you also taking morphine and oxy as prescribed, but took hydrocodone on the side and that's what you failed for?"

- Exactly. I know Kaiser's test was advanced but am still confused why I would have failed. I guess this reaffirms not taking the hydros now. They're good to have on hand in case something horrible ever comes up and I desperately need them so I'll just refrain from taking them for now.

I appreciate your help on this, you may have just saved me from being totally screwed for any future drug tests haha

 

[Keif' Richards]

Thanks for understanding @XoTillWeOverdose. The award for darkest Bluelight handle goes to you sir or madam. Well done.

Like @Snafu in the Void said, we don't do drug testing questions. We talk about everything here, except how or where to actually acquire the substance. While we don't discuss drug tests, that doesn't mean you can't learn from the community. For instance, if you were to do some light reading on Hydrocodone (Vicodin/Lortab) metabolism, you would probably feel a lot less paranoid, armed with knowledge.

I remember testing positive for Benzodiazepines what seemed like a month after my release from the hospital as a result of fairly constant usage for a week. That is what made me a lot more interested in the pharmacology side of things. Here is a decent link I found that will give you a good start. If you ever have any questions, you know what to do

Frontiers | Preclinical and Clinical Pharmacology of Hydrocodone for Chronic Pain: A Mini Review

Hydrocodone is one of the most prescribed oral analgesic drugs and it is one of the most abused drugs in general population. It is a mu-opioid agonist predom...

www.frontiersin.org

 

[XoTillWeOverdose]

Thanks for understanding @XoTillWeOverdose. The award for darkest Bluelight handle goes to you sir or madam. Well done.

Like @Snafu in the Void said, we don't do drug testing questions. We talk about everything here, except how or where to actually acquire the substance. While we don't discuss drug tests, that doesn't mean you can't learn from the community. For instance, if you were to do some light reading on Hydrocodone (Vicodin/Lortab) metabolism, you would probably feel a lot less paranoid, armed with knowledge.

I remember testing positive for Benzodiazepines what seemed like a month after my release from the hospital as a result of fairly constant usage for a week. That is what made me a lot more interested in the pharmacology side of things. Here is a decent link I found that will give you a good start. If you ever have any questions, you know what to do

Frontiers | Preclinical and Clinical Pharmacology of Hydrocodone for Chronic Pain: A Mini Review

Hydrocodone is one of the most prescribed oral analgesic drugs and it is one of the most abused drugs in general population. It is a mu-opioid agonist predom...

www.frontiersin.org

I really appreciate your help and the link you sent, I will read up on it now! I did try to do some research prior to asking this but every site/forum/etc that I saw discussing this topic mentioned hydrocodone only staying in urine for 3-5 days so I was really confused about what happened with me. Nonetheless, I'll continue to look into this and feel very grateful to have people like you and this community to help me, thanks so much

(Also saw your note about my handle - I'm a huge "The Weeknd" fan and so the "XOTillWeOverdose" is something I adopted from his music/his moniker haha. However I won't lie, it is very dark. He has lyrics in one of his songs that go, "If I OD, I want you to OD right beside me" which goes to show how dark this stuff gets for him. However ironically, he doesn't glorify his life, he tries to warn others just how fucked up it is. You should give his album, "Trilogy," a listen - it's fantastic!)

 

[Fertile]

Those tests are worse than useless.

If you have or can get the $ = have a private test and talk to a specialist doctor. An appropriate letter from such a doctor can see all the problems disappear. I mean, how do you think these doctors make so much.

At the moment they are relying on you having NO resources and NO expert witnesses. If the soctor simply states that this could end up as a legal case and that HIS tests will arrive next week.... amazingly, HR agencies back off.

I was using clobazam (prescribed) and codein - the HR agency claimed I was using heroin. SO my wife made an official complaint, found that the test couldn't tell the difference between heroin, morphine or codeine... and my GP threw away their letter. Even my GP complained that these people were claiming people were using H when obviously they were NOT.

The test that just tests for all3 costs £3, the one that says which one coats £7...

 

[Nurse Ratched]

Asked and answered to the best of people's ability. Good luck OP.

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