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HPPD passed on to kids?

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There has always been a type of glimmer after doing LSD, mushrooms, and MDMA about 3 years ago that persisted for about 2 months after usage. I then stopped using psychedelics and recently dived in head first with outrageous doses, and now the HPPD is very very apparent. For me, someone who has done lots of psychedelics, I can live with it and doesn't bother me. However my question is when I choose to have kids (if any women is lucky enough to bear me as their one and only) could HPPD be passed down to your kids?

I know mental illness can be passed down which is why I bring this up in discussion. Thoughts?
 
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Where did you come up with that answer? Just curious, it was a rather fast response.
 
absolutly not. I'd set it eual to a broken bone maybe. You have it but you cant pass it on.

Its intresting I have had my Snowy vison for a good 2 years now I have learned to live with it and it even seems to be fading away unless I do a drug again but finally its happening!
 
Okay, thanks for the replies. You guys seem confident in your answers. Yeah yesterday when I got home from a 3 mile walk and sat down to take off my shoes. The entire carpet all flowed to one central spot in my vision, happens to me most after I'm done exercising... Guess I'll just go for a run when I wanna see weird stuff %)
 
As far as research has shown HPPD is not caused by any sort of physiological trait, and is not genetic.
However it could be very plausible that a predisposition to HPPD could be genetic
 
Most people can perceive many of the "distortions" from HPPD, even if they're stone sober ("floaters", visual static, halos around objects if you stare at them too long) - they are artifacts of the human visual system being less than a perfect camera.
 
If you could pass HPPD on to your children, having not been born with it yourself and acquired it through heavy psychedelic use, it would constitute 'inheritence of acquired characteristics' which was a rival theory of evolution propoosed by the Frenchman Lamarck. It's been generally & widely disproved. A more directly observable equivalent to HPPD would be expecting that mice who've had their tails cut off would give birth to baby mice with shorter, and eventually no tails. This doesn't happen.
A real life practical example is presented by those of the Jewish persuasion who've been carrying out a similar experiment for the past 8,000 years with no discernable results.
 
sekio said:
Most people can perceive many of the "distortions" from HPPD, even if they're stone sober ("floaters", visual static, halos around objects if you stare at them too long) - they are artifacts of the human visual system being less than a perfect camera.
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Indeed. I discovered that walls would wave around if I stared long enough at age 10...yes, I was drug naive. ;)

ebola
 
what you described there is called the tunnel view. As far as I know it does not belong to the hppds its a thing that can happen to anyone. I get it when I go for walks or ride my bike really fast. And when its cold.
 
No, because getting HPPD changes nothing about your DNA which gets passed on (at least partially) to your children. With certain types of mental illness, many indeed have a genetic factor that is with you from birth. Even if it stays latent / dormant until you are older, the genetic potential is there.
 
Some people might say "no" or "absolutely not". I perceive this language to be to polarizing. I say maybe.

Gestational conditions can influence the long term outcome of children. If your HPPD is caused by drug use, you are female, and use drugs while pregnant your drug use could have long lasting effects on your offspring. MOTHERS WITH DRINKING RELATED PROBLEMS TEND TO HAVE CHILDREN PREDISPOSED TO SOME MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH ISSUES. The same is true for prenatal cocaine, methamphetamine, and other drug exposure.

Here are a couple of links with info:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/?term=prenatal+cocaine+parents
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24435324/

Please take into consideration that human studies on prenatal drug exposure often have their validity questioned due to challenges in isolating results from postnatal environmental variables. It has been my direct experience that maternal drug use during pregnancy has long lasting effects on offspring.

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http://www.shulginresearch.org
http://www.freeleonardpickard.org
http://www.maps.org
http://www.erowid.org
 
FunctionalOlfactio said:
MOTHERS WITH DRINKING RELATED PROBLEMS TEND TO HAVE CHILDREN PREDISPOSED TO SOME MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH ISSUES. The same is true for prenatal cocaine, methamphetamine, and other drug exposure.
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I was going to make the point that that could be due to growing up with a junkie or alcoholic mother, not the best of environments, but I see you've covered that concern with your comment on 'postnatal environmental variables'.
 
No, HPPD is not genetic. I have noticed in Adults with aged children who were avid Psychedelic user's have more problems with birth defects because of the other drugs they were associated with such as Heroin and Alchohol abuse, Genetic mental disorders are a different story HPPD is not in this category every case is unique and not passed through to children. However growing up with Avid Psychedelic and dissociative user's can have an impact on children due to different perceptions and beliefs they learn from there parents.
 
Wanted to comment.

My father and mother were both heavy users of LSD back in the day and I'm sure their use didn't pass on anything to me. However, I have always had mild visual snow, at least I always noticed it. I remember actually getting in an argument with my teacher in the 1st grade over begin able to "see cells in the dark" and one of the kids in the class agreed with me. ;)

Anyway I think I'm just one of the few that always noticed such things. I wouldn't worry about passing it on to your kids.
 
Visual snow is extremely common, probably present in a large majority of the population, and probably with many who say they don't see it simply being unaware of it
 
Blue Druid said:
If you could pass HPPD on to your children, having not been born with it yourself and acquired it through heavy psychedelic use, it would constitute 'inheritence of acquired characteristics' which was a rival theory of evolution propoosed by the Frenchman Lamarck. It's been generally & widely disproved. A more directly observable equivalent to HPPD would be expecting that mice who've had their tails cut off would give birth to baby mice with shorter, and eventually no tails. This doesn't happen.
A real life practical example is presented by those of the Jewish persuasion who've been carrying out a similar experiment for the past 8,000 years with no discernable results.
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epigenetics is a fairly new field, where scientists are learning that certain behaviors can alter an organism's DNA by modifying it - with methyl groups for example. and these effects can be passed on. so although it is in contrast to old views...it is becoming our new view.

Solipsis said:
No, because getting HPPD changes nothing about your DNA which gets passed on (at least partially) to your children. With certain types of mental illness, many indeed have a genetic factor that is with you from birth. Even if it stays latent / dormant until you are older, the genetic potential is there.
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but there MAY be a mechanism where psychedelic use or "HPPD" can alter DNA.

shishigami said:
Epigenetics! But in reality, not likely.
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but i would agree, i don't think it's likely, because i don't see a reason why it WOULD add methyl groups to DNA for example. but possible..

amanitadine said:
oh fuck me enough with the HPPD crap...jesus. Bollocks on it all!
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yeah, unless it's interfering with your life, it's not really HPPD. the disorder has to make life less pleasant in order to qualify as a disorder





i have had weird thoughts before, that what if i conceived a child (i'm male) when i was on a psychedelic, like 2ce for example?
probably nothing extraordinary...i hope
 
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