dontstopthemusic
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^ dont drink too much alcohol so you dont get dehydrated also...
i'll smoke weed before, during, and after the rush...
i'll smoke weed before, during, and after the rush...
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how to treat the anxiety before you come up
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wombus erectus
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^ bud before, during and after a pill is 10/10
roganmaster
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the two best things i've had that helped alleviate a roll:
doing a couple whippits (love em) and testing my shit. when i know my molly is tested for not being cut with dirty shit, it helps alleviate a lot of my stress
doing a couple whippits (love em) and testing my shit. when i know my molly is tested for not being cut with dirty shit, it helps alleviate a lot of my stress
Warped Reality
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Have a smoke, take some shots, smoke some herb.
Careful with suggesting bud guys, some people handle it different. For you it may be cool im stoned and at a rave, this is fun and im going to be rolling soon. For someone else it may be, omg what if my pill has inactive ingredients. Or shit what if i react badly this time, or fuck why is my heart beating fast it usually doesnt beat this fast!
I totally get what you're posting about - it's called anticipatory anxiety and is a classically conditioned response that is difficult and challenging to get rid of. It's the same sort of thing that happens to people with cancer taking chemotherapy who get to the point where they will vomit or retch at the sight of the needle or syringe before they even get their chemotherapy.
I had normal "butterflies-in-stomach" feelings about using MDMA until one time when I took a really strong pill and had a super strong come up in only about 15 minutes after taking the pill. I panicked and since that time it's never been the same. That was 6 or more years ago and I know that taking MDMA is safe, but as soon as I think about taking E or actually take the pill I go into a total anxiety that is so strong that I never really roll - I don't get the mental effects - I just finally take a high enough dose that it kills the anxiety and then I get the physical side speedy side effects and all the negative side effects when I come down. My anxiety response will be so strong that I'll end up in a hot shower in the fetal position wishing for death for relief. The only thing I've found that works is to not take MDMA. For example, if someone told me we were going to roll tomorrow night, that's all it would take for me to instantly go into total panic mode even though it's 24 hours away, and once I swallow the pill - forget it - I'm totally gone.
My personal opinion is that about the only type of hope for this situation is a form of cognitive behavioural therapy combined with exposure/aversion therapy. You have to expose yourself to situations that give you anxiety that you can manage and then keep exposing yourself to that situation until the anxiety goes away. This works because anxiety can't last forever. For example, I had to start with just reading about E....for a long time even reading about E would make me totally anxious - the key is that each session you read about E you have to keep reading about it until your anxiety subsides - it eventually subsides and this starts the reprogramming in your brain that there is nothing dangerous or harmful about reading about E - finally it will get to where when you read about E you won't be anxious anymore - then you move on to maybe watching youtube videos of people high on E - at first (at least for me) that may cause a high level of anxiety - but again the key is that for each session on youtube you must watch videos until your anxiety subsides......you keep doing this and this also helps reprogram your brain that there is nothing fearful or harmful about taking E......when you finally can watch youtube videos without getting anxious then you might move on to having E pills in your home and having them out to look at them....again this might cause a high level of anxiety but you just repeat the process....how and what you choose to do through aversion/exposure therapy may vary depending on your own anxiety triggers and how strong they are - but with a lot of time and patience you should be able to use cognitive behavioural therapy techniques to get rid of anticipatory anxiety so that you again enjoy E.
I had normal "butterflies-in-stomach" feelings about using MDMA until one time when I took a really strong pill and had a super strong come up in only about 15 minutes after taking the pill. I panicked and since that time it's never been the same. That was 6 or more years ago and I know that taking MDMA is safe, but as soon as I think about taking E or actually take the pill I go into a total anxiety that is so strong that I never really roll - I don't get the mental effects - I just finally take a high enough dose that it kills the anxiety and then I get the physical side speedy side effects and all the negative side effects when I come down. My anxiety response will be so strong that I'll end up in a hot shower in the fetal position wishing for death for relief. The only thing I've found that works is to not take MDMA. For example, if someone told me we were going to roll tomorrow night, that's all it would take for me to instantly go into total panic mode even though it's 24 hours away, and once I swallow the pill - forget it - I'm totally gone.
My personal opinion is that about the only type of hope for this situation is a form of cognitive behavioural therapy combined with exposure/aversion therapy. You have to expose yourself to situations that give you anxiety that you can manage and then keep exposing yourself to that situation until the anxiety goes away. This works because anxiety can't last forever. For example, I had to start with just reading about E....for a long time even reading about E would make me totally anxious - the key is that each session you read about E you have to keep reading about it until your anxiety subsides - it eventually subsides and this starts the reprogramming in your brain that there is nothing dangerous or harmful about reading about E - finally it will get to where when you read about E you won't be anxious anymore - then you move on to maybe watching youtube videos of people high on E - at first (at least for me) that may cause a high level of anxiety - but again the key is that for each session on youtube you must watch videos until your anxiety subsides......you keep doing this and this also helps reprogram your brain that there is nothing fearful or harmful about taking E......when you finally can watch youtube videos without getting anxious then you might move on to having E pills in your home and having them out to look at them....again this might cause a high level of anxiety but you just repeat the process....how and what you choose to do through aversion/exposure therapy may vary depending on your own anxiety triggers and how strong they are - but with a lot of time and patience you should be able to use cognitive behavioural therapy techniques to get rid of anticipatory anxiety so that you again enjoy E.
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hahaha sorry that made me lol b/c the second part of that is so damn true. Bud can make people freak out like a motherfuker b/c it's not expected. I'm definately part of the first part though I feel more relaxed stoned then anything at a rave, but that's just me and I also love EDM a lot more than regular people so I dunno.
diytripper
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The only time I've felt anxiety of any kind was my first experience. I didn't mind it though, and as others have said, it's usually nothing unbearable. After the first time, it becomes "waiting" instead of "anxiety" for most people, myself included. There are many factors associated with the anxiety though, such as the setting in which you choose to roll, the people with whom you are rolling, and whether or not you have taken any other substances prior to taking MDMA.
Weed gives me ridiculous anxiety, so I wouldn't ever smoke before a roll. However, others swear by that particular combination. If I had to make a recommendation, I'd say that if you were to preoccupy yourself with something during the come-up (such as video games perhaps, if you have access to them in your environment) then not only would the come-up seem shorter, but you wouldn't be constantly thinking about it.
Weed gives me ridiculous anxiety, so I wouldn't ever smoke before a roll. However, others swear by that particular combination. If I had to make a recommendation, I'd say that if you were to preoccupy yourself with something during the come-up (such as video games perhaps, if you have access to them in your environment) then not only would the come-up seem shorter, but you wouldn't be constantly thinking about it.
eon_blue
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I never used to get any anxiety before a roll but for some reason I've been feeling it pretty badly lately (planning on rolling on NYE in a little over a week.)
It was weird because it didn't occur to me that I had anything to be anxious about until I saw a movie recently where this mentally unstable girl got slipped some molly in a club...they did a beautiful job of showing the effects of the drug on film, however it was very anxiety provoking how they displayed her come up and next thing I know I'm looking over at my girlfriend telling her I need to get the fuck out of the theater otherwise I'm going to have a panic attack
lol.
Since then I've had a couple of dreams wherein I'm taking a pill, and before it hits me I wake up and I'm drenched in sweat in total panic mode.
The weird part is that I've rolled probably close to ten times in the last couple of years and I've never had any anxiety before doing it. I'm a little afraid of how bad it could be this NYE but fuck it, I'm going into it telling myself I'm going to have the time of my life just like I did last new year's...I know that once it hits me I'll be fine. Hopefully, lol.
I'm also the type of person to get anxiety on weed so that's out of the question for sure. If anything I'll have an overpriced beer or two.
It was weird because it didn't occur to me that I had anything to be anxious about until I saw a movie recently where this mentally unstable girl got slipped some molly in a club...they did a beautiful job of showing the effects of the drug on film, however it was very anxiety provoking how they displayed her come up and next thing I know I'm looking over at my girlfriend telling her I need to get the fuck out of the theater otherwise I'm going to have a panic attack
lol. Since then I've had a couple of dreams wherein I'm taking a pill, and before it hits me I wake up and I'm drenched in sweat in total panic mode.
The weird part is that I've rolled probably close to ten times in the last couple of years and I've never had any anxiety before doing it. I'm a little afraid of how bad it could be this NYE but fuck it, I'm going into it telling myself I'm going to have the time of my life just like I did last new year's...I know that once it hits me I'll be fine. Hopefully, lol.
I'm also the type of person to get anxiety on weed so that's out of the question for sure. If anything I'll have an overpriced beer or two.
jack-special-k
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I'm autistic and have never expirensed anxiaty but my friends say it's pritty bad just keep your mind off it they bomb there mandy they say that stops it or give your self a placebo or just belive things will be good bring out some teddys if that will help
Monkeybizness
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Okay for real... why take something your not going to enjoy or are scared to do. ? If your scared just don't do it. When you do drugs you have to do them with the right mentality. You take it to have fun and you have to know and realize that "YOUR GOING TO GET FUCKED UP" . I always say "if your going to get high Enjoy it! " and if your to fucked up you always tell your self its going to be okay, and that your just high.
Always try to entertain yourself on the wait/come of the pill.
A nice warm shower
Take it before your done getting ready to go out, so once your done the beans already hitting you
Visit a store And pick out rolling supplies
blast some music
I don't know just dont wait around for it. You have to enjoy it. D
Always try to entertain yourself on the wait/come of the pill.
A nice warm shower
Take it before your done getting ready to go out, so once your done the beans already hitting you
Visit a store And pick out rolling supplies
blast some music
I don't know just dont wait around for it. You have to enjoy it. D
MasterSplinter
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This.
sweetamishbutter
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I love the come up anxiety... It makes me feel like a previous poster said, a kid about to go to a fair. just sitting there waiting for it to happen can be a bit much though, if you focus on other things it hits you hard before you even know it.
jamaica0535
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plug it and be high before anxiety happens.
or just relax, you know what it feels like and how quick it goes away.
or just relax, you know what it feels like and how quick it goes away.
Acadian
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The last time I rolled I drank like 6 - 8 beers and I found that it made my roll somewhat dirty. Meaning it muted some of the amazing feelings. Not sure if anyone else has had the same experience with alcohol.. maybe 3 beers or something just to loosen up would be good.I was a bit drunk trying to roll and was thinking, this isn't as much fun as just rolling. It did however take my mind of the come up anxiety.
The last time I rolled I drank like 6 - 8 beers and I found that it made my roll somewhat dirty. Meaning it muted some of the amazing feelings. Not sure if anyone else has had the same experience with alcohol.. maybe 3 beers or something just to loosen up would be good.I was a bit drunk trying to roll and was thinking, this isn't as much fun as just rolling. It did however take my mind of the come up anxiety.
Yea thats too many beers, if your trying to treat come up anxiety no need to go over like 2 beers. 6- 8 will get you a strong buzz or mildly drunk, and as everyone knows alcohol is a pretty messy and scattered high. I have never had any alcohol while dropping pills but if i were to, it would be like 1 or 2 beers to make the come up better.
i experience the same thing and these are ways i have learned to deal with any anxiety:
1) Write yourself a note before the event and/or stimulus that causes you anxiety. Write this when you're in a calm state of mind and simply put your future self at ease. People are more likely to obey things they have written down and, for me, remembering a time when I was thinking more clearly can help me get back to that state of peace.
2) Make yourself some sort of kandi with a word that only you know means "calm down". If you get nervous fiddle around with this and focus on the positive energy you put into making this piece of kandi, rather than the negative energy that's causing you to be anxious in the first place.
3) Distracting yourself with light shows, massages, etc. is also a wonderful way to stop waiting/stressing out about the come up. A watched pot never boils.
Sorry if this is too hippy for ya, just some things that help me. GOOD LUCK!
1) Write yourself a note before the event and/or stimulus that causes you anxiety. Write this when you're in a calm state of mind and simply put your future self at ease. People are more likely to obey things they have written down and, for me, remembering a time when I was thinking more clearly can help me get back to that state of peace.
2) Make yourself some sort of kandi with a word that only you know means "calm down". If you get nervous fiddle around with this and focus on the positive energy you put into making this piece of kandi, rather than the negative energy that's causing you to be anxious in the first place.
3) Distracting yourself with light shows, massages, etc. is also a wonderful way to stop waiting/stressing out about the come up. A watched pot never boils.
Sorry if this is too hippy for ya, just some things that help me. GOOD LUCK!