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Heroin how to tapewith only .7 g of tar from 1mg sub 4 months habit

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I just got a gram of tar to taper down with and make my w/d less harsh. I smoked about .3 g today after a .5 mg sub dose and actually got high, i dont think .5 mg is enough to hold me anymore and so I had some free receptors.

But anyway whats the best way to taper with this .7 g? Snorting or my usual smoking? I dont bang no needles at all. Any suggestions. Thanksss
 
Yeah suboxone is to be taken as a replacement for the abused substance, and usually, will send someone into precipitated withdrawal if taken while other opiates are present in the brain. You took a really low dose though. If you wanna take suboxone you really cant smoke tar with it
 
Of course I know sub is for comin off H, I know how it works and i smoked tar on it just fine with a low dose.

I just dont wanna go cold turkey from suboxone either. I was addicted to TAR before I was on maint for too long ran out of my script and lost my insurance .

So I want to EASE withdrawls from suboxone with TAR.

Should I smoke .2 g a day or snort .1 gram a day or what?

Whats the best way to stretch .7 grams of tar to make it last and ease w/d?
 
The best way to ease suboxone wds honestly is to taper to an almost nothing dose. If you get down to taking .25 mg a day for a few weeks and quit the sickness will not be that bad(speaking from experience). Plus, it seems counterproductive to use h for the relief of suboxone wd doesn't it?

If you still want to use the tar it would be hard to come up with a comparison dose to bupe due to the impurity of street drugs.

edit: sorry I didnt read you lost your insurance, that makes it a different situation. My bad
 
JC said that for a reason.... The general reason for tapering from one opiate with another is a difference in opiates, generally speaking the half life. An opiate that has a short half life, enters your system quickly and then leaves your system quickly therefore making the high more intense but also the withdrawal more intense. The idea would be to stop heroin which leaves your system within a day and slowly start taking suboxone which will take 2 or so days to leave your system.

If you are hellbent on slowly tapering with H, I would snort it. Waterling it by mixing it with water and snorting the water. The reason for this is you aren't wasting as much tar as smoking because obviously when you smoke you don't inhale everything and some tar gets burned and wasted. Wait as long as you can after your last dose and then take the smallest dose possible to feel "ok." Repeat the process waiting as long as humanly possible and then taking the tiniest of doses. Your withdrawals will not be non-existant and you will definitely feel them, but it won't be as bad as going cold turkey...
 
just sell or give away that tar and get the w/d over with.

not really, but thats basically the long and the short of it.
good luck with the w/d.
 
The best way is to not set up a taper plan. Wait untill the wd's start. Then wait for them to get to the point where you're too uncomfortable to stay in withdrawl. Then ingest the smallest amount of heroin possible, probably less than .1, just enough to ease the withdrawl and not even catch a buzz.
 
Thai_Stick said:
The best way is to not set up a taper plan. Wait untill the wd's start. Then wait for them to get to the point where you're too uncomfortable to stay in withdrawl. Then ingest the smallest amount of heroin possible, probably less than .1, just enough to ease the withdrawl and not even catch a buzz.
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This is probably the best advice. I was able to do this back in the day, before multiple relapses. It was after a good 6-7 month tar binge, and I think I wasn't at my level of addiction, psychologically, that I am now. The hardest part is taking that one hit, and putting it away....You'll want to take just one more, and you'll rationalize with yourself why you should/can, but you just need to tell yourself WHY you are doing it...it's all about the willpower. I say one hit every 12-16 hrs.
 
Update sorry to bump but Yeah I have to say the h got the best of me and I finished it off except for .2g to get high. Smoked the last .2 12 hours later, then started taking 200mg tramadol 2x a day. No high from the tram like I used to get but it dulling w/d alot; this is the easiest one Ive been through except I still crave gettin high.
My pupils are dialated from not using and I have chills and yawns but not too much aching. When should I quit taking trAmadol? Should I taper the tram or just stop after 6 days.

This is more of a bupe w/d then H cause I just used the last 3 days to stop the sub w/d
 
What you are experiencing is DEFNITIELY bupe withdrawal. Stay away from dope, IMO tram will be your best tool.

If you are only on tram 6 days I would stop CT. If you use it for more lke 3 weeks or something I would think of tapering even if it's a week taper..

The less shitty you feel the better chanc eyou have at stayin clean
 
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