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How to tap into your creativity when tripping?

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rez_runner

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I've heard so many great stories of amazing visuals, ideas, song writings, poems and stories, drawings, etc etc while on psychedelics but I have never had this before. Everytime I trip I feel the effects like I should (well decently I guess. I'm an extreme hard head and need 3-4 times the normal dose to even feel anything so maybe that's my problem) but it never seems very worthwhile or memorable. The last trip I had I took 200 grams of san pedro cactus and had excellent visuals (never puked so hard in my life, I knew I took a heavy dose) but I really didn't trip as deep as I wanted to.

I just remember sitting there with the people I took it with and felt no joy, creativity, or insight whatsoever. I couldn't even think of anything to say, I just felt awkward and didn't know what to do except play a movie. I have tried meditating, but it doesn't really do much either. I'm really frustrated. Does anyone else get this? I don't feel unique or creative in life in general anyway, so that's why I try to find it on psychedelics but so far its been disappointing
 
I think a lot has to do with your expectations. If you want a deep spiritually meaningful trip, you shouldn't hope for one.
Although you can facilitate it by living a spiritual life, and incorporating this into the psychedelic state.

Reading "Remember, Be Here Now" is a good start !
 
I had quite a trip at a music festival a month ago, 5 hits of something that didn't hit me until I was ready to try my hand at sleeping. From there on I would close my eyes, try to sleep, end up opening my eyes and seeing a whole new world everytime I chose to open my eyes. Point is, I love writing poetry, and I had some great stuff running through my head at that time. But one, very powerful part of my mind told me just to keep trying to go back to sleep, and all this wonderful wordplay would still be here in the morning for me. I wanted to wrestle that thought and not listen to it, to start writing down some of this stuff, but the lazy part of my brain took over, and I would just enjoy the visuals as they came and try to calm my mind. Needless to say, the words weren' there when I came down, and it was quite a heavy loss for me. What I guess I'm trying to say is, its all willpower, you have to take charge of your mind and direct it to where YOU want it to go. If your mind is in a bland place, the psychadelics will just intensify that dullness. But if you go into it hopeful, creative, having things you actually wish to accomplish, there's a good chance those things will manifest. Life is mostly what you make of it.
 
Sometimes tripping around others who are 'not on the level' (excuse the ego here, but you all know what I mean) can stifle creativity. Moreover, too much in the way of 'intentions' can lead you off the path. On the other hand, are you already creative? Maybe you don't need psychedelics to foster that. I am a musician (an ok one, getting better) and sound arranger/engineer (an extraordinary one, genius in my time) and of all the things psychedelics have helped foster...my ability to record, produce, arrange, mix, finalize, etc, etc sound projects has not really even been affected by psychedelics. Tripping and my music are seemingly irrelevant to each other.
 
I find I'm not creative around others, unless we're discussing music or movies or art, it's more just laughing and having a good time.
When I trip by myself I can feel my creativity rise a great deal but my creative ability and motivation fly right out the window
 
I agree with what others have said above, that perhaps it's an issue of too much intention, the group setting, etc. The only time I've ever tripped and created something I liked when sober was my first time tripping, and the drawing was spontaneous, not planned. Most other times I make art when tripping, it seems much better during the experience than it actually is - I'm an artist and have tried to draw and paint numerous times while tripping. I know these experiences don't directly relate to your issue (channeling creativity while tripping), but what I want to point out is that maybe the idea that psychedelics stimulate creativity is a bit exaggerated. That is, while cognition and connectivity between varying parts of the brain might be increased, how that relates to your experience is dependent on how you are normally. We shouldn't (not to say that you are) expect miraculous gifts to be handed to us from psychedelics without our own joint efforts - if you want to make art, take art classes and make art regularly, if you want to have mental insights, study philosophy, and so on
 
It probably has to do with the fact that my life in general is pretty bland and frustrating right now, so maybe that's it. And yes, the people I was with weren't very exciting either so that probably didn't help.

What was crazy for me a few weeks ago is when I woke in the middle of the night still groggy and in that just about to fall asleep phase and I could hear these crazy poetic words rambling inside my head, and the second I came to a little more it all stopped. It was weird, it was incredibly beautiful and complex and poetic and I have no idea where it came from. I do have crazy dreams as well (I dream every night) so I know something inside of me is ready to be tapped into I just need to manifest it somehow.
 
rez_runner said:
It probably has to do with the fact that my life in general is pretty bland and frustrating right now, so maybe that's it. And yes, the people I was with weren't very exciting either so that probably didn't help.

What was crazy for me a few weeks ago is when I woke in the middle of the night still groggy and in that just about to fall asleep phase and I could hear these crazy poetic words rambling inside my head, and the second I came to a little more it all stopped. It was weird, it was incredibly beautiful and complex and poetic and I have no idea where it came from. I do have crazy dreams as well (I dream every night) so I know something inside of me is ready to be tapped into I just need to manifest it somehow.
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Back in art school, I learned that we are most creative just prior to going to sleep!

Maybe change up your surroundings go to a beautiful place with lots of nature surrounding you that will be safe and maybe go with a differnt crowd or by yourself and try to fly again. If you say you are blah and belive this then so be it. So too will be the people around you. Affect change.
 
drugs enhance your natural talents and moods.

be creative, and then take 'creative' drugs to make your _more_ creative.

its not magic, its just drugs
 
strive for excellence in all things that you do
when you do things, do them with purpose and full intention
don't be afraid to challenge boundaries and go with gut feelings
there are no wrong decisions in art
 
Personally I could only get serious creative work done while I was tripping alone, on a medium dose. Nothing so intense that it's a bad idea to be alone. I think that the creativity came from working at it for so long while I was tripping, especially since I had my complete focus on the music I was writing.

The best part of the trip for me is how I hear the music. I used to listen to J.S. Bach for hours, tripping on LSD and I think it seriously altered how I wrote music. I would notice extreme details of the counterpoint, harmony and structure of the song that I normally wouldn't.

Also, sometimes I would get on a creative roll and others I would end up just listening to my music, trying to decide which direction to take it.


Hopefully this helps, but it's just my experience. I'm sure everyone has a different creative process.
Good luck,
JS
 
Anybody have better luck with extremely large doses? Not where you have complete ego loss but close to it. I feel like the more the ego gets involved in the trip the more of your normal, everyday problems and thinking habits might get in the way. Worth a shot I guess, although mescaline probably isn't the best drug for this as its a lot harder to go deep with.
 
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