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How to store MXE longterm

Chris Timothy

Chris Timothy

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My fellow humans!

I have searched the forums looking for a thread about Methoxetamine and storage, and I could not find one. As of now, methoxetamine is turning my old life into a functional one in the same way a turd is turned into a crystal, and I am rather fond of the fact that this all is actually happening. My kidneys disagree, but I'm sure they'll get their voice later on in life.

I do not intend to create my own private party universe with it. I do not intend to flee in it like a fox in his hole. I intend to dance together with this chemical throughout life, in the same way the depressed person dances with anti-depressiva, the schizophrenic with anti-psychotics, in the same way man dances with woman. Consequences be noted and damned. Therefore I want to plan ahead, as to optimize my utility derived from this precious substance. I want a longterm supply, and I want it to survive the wrath of time, long enough for it to cure what ails me.

Are there any specific properties of this substance I should take into consideration for storage? I'm sure the usual advice applies: cold, dark, airtight, devoid of moisture. Is there anything else I should know before burdening myself with the task of becoming a guardian of the mighty chemical Methoxetamine? Do refer me to the B&D storage thread if the ground I am trying to cover is nothing but a whim of the imagination.

And of course, let it be clear that I realize that the biggest issue of storing Methoxetamine, namely the psychological issue, far outweighs the mere material practicalities addressed above in terms of risk.

*Manic preacher tone for entertainment purposes only.
 
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Be wary with your use. I thought this post did quite a good job talking about how it toys with you, causing you to justify your habit when it is not, in fact, justified.

As for storage: there are a few things which accelerate the breakdown of nearly every chemical, which are to be avoided for long term storage of anything:

Moisture, heat, light and oxygen.

Therefore, the ideal home-storage solution is in an airtight container in the freezer. If you plan to access it often, then you may wish to skip the freezer part as exposing air to cold chemicals will cause moisture to condense onto them.
 
I'd say there are quite some factors one might not be considering in estimating whether one's bending of the intermingled harmonies of reality is appropriately labeled "justified" or not.

So I gather that I would store my MXE in the same way as I would hypothetically store my LSD.

Thank you very much.
 
Is it always "the colder the better"?.
I once read that 5-Meo-DMT should be stored at 5 degrees Celsius or something like that. That info came from a quite known chemical supplier. It's been a long time since I read that though
 
For every drug I've ever come across, yes. The 5*C suggestion was probably to avoid condensation upon removal from storage.

Any reaction favoured by the lowest temperatures would be so slow at said temperatures that it would not be worth worrying about.
 
I just ordered some amber vials for storage of various powders. I feel like they will be especially useful when it comes to storing tryptamines which are a bit less stable than phenethylamines. I've seen pictures on erowid of I think it was 4-AcO-DET that had sat in a clear plastic bag in a car for 3 months. It had turned into this black gooey substance.

My thinking would be the amber vial method though not sure on temperature concerns.
 
OP: Believe me, newer chemicals will come along, and MXE will eventually be banned, and these newer chemicals will help you "dance through life" even better than MXE does.

Then again, I can't blame you for wanting to stash some away forever. But, really, are you going to buy a half kilo of the stuff so you have a lifetime supply? Don't answer that. But I find the prospect amusing. And wish I was as rich as you ;)
 
^^^Better than MXE? I'll have to see/feel it to believe it!

Is there any reason to think MXE would react with plastic, like other chems would? Even though I'd store it in airtight vials, it would be handy to have it prepackaged in ziplocks within the vials.
 
Store MXE like you would any other drug. Cool dry place. just rememeber that you're more likely to get slammed with a distribution charge if it's all neatly packed up into 1000 single dose vials....
 
That's a very good point I must admit I did not consider.

Being benevolent is one thing, being believed to be benevolent another.
 
Another question: does anyone have an idea what the density of MXE is? Like: how much gram of MXE would fit into a bottle of 100ml?

The amount of MXE I have currently left is too little to be reliably, experimentally measured by my kitchen measuring cup.
 
Chris Timothy said:
Is there any reason to think MXE would react with plastic, like other chems would? Even though I'd store it in airtight vials, it would be handy to have it prepackaged in ziplocks within the vials.
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Most chemicals do not "react with plastic". Some chemicals may have impurities that will discolor of odorize plastic, but remember that plastic is generally long chains of hydrocarbons (plastic : wax :: wax : oil :: oil : butane) and the drugs we are concerned with are stored as salts so they are not likely to associate with plastic in any meaningful amount.

Can't answer your density question; every batch is different depending on purity, crystallization, moisture content, etc.
 
You should absolutely have scales for dealing with MXE. If you can afford 100mls of MXE then you can most certainly afford a $40 set of scales. Please invest.
 
^^^ What made you think I didn't have already?

My scale works with milligrams, not milliliters.
 
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Can you not measure the density yourself then? Or are you saying that your scales will do not have the capacity to weigh 100mls of mxe?
 
^he said that his current supply of MXE is too small to get any meaningful density information, as he does not have a graduated container small enough to accurately measure a couple ml of MXE (as I assume he has less than 1000mg MXE remaining, which is probably between 0 and 1 ml)
 
you could always ask your supplier how they store their mxe? I would suggest inside an airtight vacuum sealed bag in a cold dark place, although that would make access harder.

Your supplier may well know the density as they probably have documentation from the labs that created it which will have this information on it, I'm sure they would be more than happy to share this information with you if you asked them nicely.
 
I asked my supplier, and he said he'll ask the lab, but he also said it's basically up to us to determine this information (well, it is a research chemical..). We're basically in the position to complete the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) ourselves.

I've performed my best kitchen science, but as expected, the measurements vary considerably, and it looks like the data is gonna have dubious accuracy. If I feel theoretical-sciency one day, I'll calculate the approximate density with its error margin. Or at least simply the upper and lower bounds, so we have at least some rough estimates.

I'm hearing from people buying all sorts of expensive equipment to measure all kinds of exotic properties of the chemical, so I'm not sure whether my science-fair-project level efforts are a complete waste of time or not.

Meh.
 
I find I lose alot of the powder when measuring and putting back in bag. How can one take powder out of the bag and put in amber vials in a most efficient way?

I can totally relate with the thread starter, this has been a very special RC to me, i do not abuse it in anyway and maybe that's why it has been so good to me. It's a tough world out there, anytime you come across an ally, you take notice and appreciate. I want to put some away as well for those dark nights of the soul.
 
^^^When it comes to transferring powders, never forget the power of the piece of paper folded in half!

Thanks for relating to me. I think we're in for a hilarious walk of life! :)
(Unless we're stupid enough to make it a disastrous one, of course...)
 
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