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How to Stop Dreaming?

RobotRipping

RobotRipping

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I am haunted by nightmares almost every night, if not that then lucid dreams where i scream at the dream characters that none of this is right. The dreams center around my dad, who has recently cut off all contact with me because i am too busy in school but even before that they were largely about him. In the dreams i am somehow awe struck that i am stuck back living with him after saying that i would never move back (i never have) and then in the dream i'm like, i do actually have my own place, i live with my gf and then i have limited lucid dreams where i can fly but barely control anything else and even my flight is limited and certainly not joyful, just a method to outrun people.

I wake up after these dreams wanting to die. I think i'm slowly cracking under the stress. I always do well at first but there's a tipping point and then it's all over for me and back to being a junkie, really trying not to repeat the cycle but my family not talking to me anymore for no good reason has most certainly affected me. I hate family, most particularly my dad and i cant wait to have full financial power and throw it in his fucking face and belittle him, just like i do in my shitty little nightmares.

anyone else have similar issues or gotten over them? Yeah i need to let it go but my dad takes care of my little brother who is 13 and now i can't see him at all despite living in the same town, we are super close and he doesnt ever message me back now and my dad wont take him to my place to visit. If it weren't for him my dad would be dead to me but now it just haunts my dreams every fucking night. I used to smoke cannabis to get rid of my dreams but doesn't work any more, benzos dont work, z drugs dont work, etizolam doesnt work, opiates make it worse and drugs just do not fix this problem for me.

as well my dad is one of those typical manipulators who use guilt to their advantage, because that's all he has left over me. I've far overshot his expectations and absolutely outsmarted and outworked his ass and he knows it. So he pulls this bullshit cutting off contact with me because i am in a tough engineering program and cant visit with him 8 hours a week because i have to bus my ass all over the city when he could just drive and meet me at my place. He is the type to give financial incentives and buy us things just to have control over us (my sister and i mostly) only to fuck us over in the end and actually take the stuff back. He has flat out stolen money from me to buy a car for me and then refuse to give me the car back! fucking bullshit, he is bipolar too bipolar 2 i think with the manic and depressive phases. Often in my dreams i beat the shit out of him or attempt to kill him.
 
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surely you already know this, but in my experience the more i toke, the less i dream, especially, before bed time sessions

ive got a feeling that heavy indica's might effect dreaming more than sativa but it could be the same

depends on how much your dreams are effecting your functionality vs how much smoking up at night will

also avoid seroquel because i tend to have really intense dreams on that
 
Sounds really awful, RR. Any possibility of doing therapy specifically to deal with the issue of your Dad? Dreams, and their relative intensity, are often our own minds shouting, "Pay attention to this!" Especially when it is something we would prefer not to think about or avoid dwelling on because it may seem futile. Changing your Dad is futile but changing how you deal with his flaws and subsequent behaviors (which sound miserable), and how much you let those affect you, is something that you can have direct control of with the help of a good therapist.

I use weed for sleep sometimes when my insomnia has been going on for days (indica in edible form) and my main complaint is that I don't seem to dream--or at least don't remember them.
 
It really sounds as though you are suffering from night terrors. Have you given thought to consulting a physician and possibly beginning to take medication that will allow you to sleep through the night? Night terrors are commonly treated successfully when the patient is willing.

What you're going through is awful, and I don't want to downplay that :(
I also don't want to "push" medication on anyone. But you know as well as anyone that you cannot go on like this. Your sanity is far too precious.
 
Smoking weed on a daily basis will make you stop dreaming. Whenever I smoke weed consistently I never dream, when I take a break the dreams come back.
 
RobotRipping said:
I am haunted by nightmares almost every night, if not that then lucid dreams where i scream at the dream characters that none of this is right. The dreams center around my dad, who has recently cut off all contact with me because i am too busy in school but even before that they were largely about him. In the dreams i am somehow awe struck that i am stuck back living with him after saying that i would never move back (i never have) and then in the dream i'm like, i do actually have my own place, i live with my gf and then i have limited lucid dreams where i can fly but barely control anything else and even my flight is limited and certainly not joyful, just a method to outrun people.

I wake up after these dreams wanting to die. I think i'm slowly cracking under the stress. I always do well at first but there's a tipping point and then it's all over for me and back to being a junkie, really trying not to repeat the cycle but my family not talking to me anymore for no good reason has most certainly affected me. I hate family, most particularly my dad and i cant wait to have full financial power and throw it in his fucking face and belittle him, just like i do in my shitty little nightmares.

anyone else have similar issues or gotten over them? Yeah i need to let it go but my dad takes care of my little brother who is 13 and now i can't see him at all despite living in the same town, we are super close and he doesnt ever message me back now and my dad wont take him to my place to visit. If it weren't for him my dad would be dead to me but now it just haunts my dreams every fucking night. I used to smoke cannabis to get rid of my dreams but doesn't work any more, benzos dont work, z drugs dont work, etizolam doesnt work, opiates make it worse and drugs just do not fix this problem for me.

as well my dad is one of those typical manipulators who use guilt to their advantage, because that's all he has left over me. I've far overshot his expectations and absolutely outsmarted and outworked his ass and he knows it. So he pulls this bullshit cutting off contact with me because i am in a tough engineering program and cant visit with him 8 hours a week because i have to bus my ass all over the city when he could just drive and meet me at my place. He is the type to give financial incentives and buy us things just to have control over us (my sister and i mostly) only to fuck us over in the end and actually take the stuff back. He has flat out stolen money from me to buy a car for me and then refuse to give me the car back! fucking bullshit, he is bipolar too bipolar 2 i think with the manic and depressive phases. Often in my dreams i beat the shit out of him or attempt to kill him.
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Man I feel your pain, I really do. Different problems but same symptom. My nightmares are all over the place, often in the dream I feel brain damaged. Like you I lucid dream to a limited extent a lot. I know I'm dreaming, but I can't escape it, and my mind isn't working properly, like I'm partially blind and can't think straight in the dream. I have to struggle to remember I'm dreaming so I can try and escape. Last night I knew I was dreaming, I couldn't get out, so I just kept waiting it out and telling myself "it's just a dream, it'll be over soon". Sometimes in the dream I'll cry out in hopes that it will cause my body in the real world to react in some way so my partner will know to wake me up. Not very effective. Usually wake up covered in sweat, like I've just run a mile.

My dreams get so meta that I'll know I'm dreaming and try and wake myself up only to wake up inside another dream. Over and over again.

It's my belief that bad dreams are either symbolic or direct representations of things you fear in your real life. In my case, fear of damaging my mind with drugs, fear of being disabled, fear of being attacked or hurt, being chased, etc.

Family is one of the strongest triggers to use drugs I know of. I wish I could say something more helpful, but I haven't found a way to make it stop either. Pot helps, benzos helped when I used them but withdrawal from them made my nightmares significantly worse than they already were for weeks. My tactic would be to get as far away from destructive influences as possible. Not helpful I know...

Someone mentioned seroquel, I actually slept a bit better on seroquel, but that doesn't seem too common.
 
I think Im suffering from the same problem, robo. I wish I knew a way to stop these nightmares and horrific things happening, but it's all been of no use really. I just wish there was some way to stop them, end my fear and shed a new light on all of this mess and havoc that's been around me recently.

Perhaps hypnotherapy or positive reinforcement thinking before you go to bed and fall asleep could be a good idea. Just think to yourself over and over "when I have a dream, it will be the best dream of my life and I will be happy". Just keep repeating it over and over in your head and maybe, just maybe you'll get a break from those awful nightmares.

I'm so sorry you're going through this. I know and feel your pain. Maybe getting something off your chest would be really helpful - I know it was for me. Feel free to PM me anytime and ill listen and support you through it all. I know how hard life can be, but we need to keep going. I thought I wouldn't wake up this morning but I did. I'm still kicking, dancing and smiling. Turn that frown upside down. :)
 
i try getting high every night before bed, used to work, doesn't anymore. Thanks for the replies everyone, really helpful to know i'm not the one who suffers like this. It sucks when you hit the point where you realize that not even drugs will fix your problems any more.

I guess it's obvious to me i need therapy, i need to let go of this stuff, it's not helping me but it seeps into my subconscious whether i want it to or not. I've done therapy, with a lot of talk about family and my dad in particular and it helps but the dreams still happen.
I routinely talk about this stuff with my girlfriend as she has the same issue with her mom but we don't come to any solutions either, just that this is the way it is and we have to learn to deal with it, which sucks.
 
Lookup the book, "The Jungian-Senoi Dreamwork Manual" by Strephon Kaplan-Williams. It was the only book that was able to guide me step by step through the process of ending nightmares by teaching me to interact with my dream states. It uses techniques developed by Carl Jung.
 
i already use etizolam, doesn't help. Opiates are one thing that make me have true night terrors exactly as JessFR describes. I can relate so much to your post JessFR. I have actually let out cries or screams in my dreams that translated to little squeels, enough to wake my girlfriend up to wake me up and get me out of it. Sometimes i can roll myself out of it too if i'm stuck in sleep paralysis. It's weird though, i am aware that i am rolling yet i am in a hypnagogic state, i can even hear the little sounds that come out when i am screaming to get out of my dreams. It's so strange and fine normally but when things turn dark it bothers me to a great extent.

Maybe i'll just start smoking more indicas before bed, it used to work great but ever since i did the whole benzo/opiate withdrawal cycle a few times, it just doesn't seem to suppress dreaming anymore.

As for seroquel, that is the worst medication i've ever tried. It made sleeping disastrous and i'd wake up wanting to kill myself consistently after taking. So i stopped taking it completely about 4 or 5 days ago. Either way i had these problems before seroquel and still have them, so it's not just that. I'm under so much stress with school beating the shit out of me (have like 6 assignments on the go right now) then my dad cutting off all contact with me as my little brother's birthday is coming up. I probably won't even get to see him because of this shit and that is how my dad manipulates me. I feel guilty, that is his goal and i've been driven to do things by this guilt for the large majority of my life. It has resulted in severe self esteem issues, i am multi talented yet never feel good enough.

i don't really have any time (literally) to see a psych right now or to get a sleep study done. My program at school is incredibly intense and i am out of the house 8-10 hours a day 5 days a week and so burnt out on the weekend that i just sleep most of it or get high to just escape the reality of it all. I was doing well for quite a few weeks, i guess all the stress has just hit a critical point, i bet after this week is over, my stress will be alleviated and ill be back on track hopefully. Nevertheless i appreciate everyone's input and i'll definitely check that book out Foreigner. I've been a lucid dreamer my whole life and constantly have sleep paralysis so i may have sleep apnea, so i guess that's worth checking out but it takes anywhere from 3 months to 2 years to see a specialist in Canada, love that public health care. To even see a real psych it'll take 3-6 months even with insurance.
 
You cant stop dreaming, its your body's mechanism of escaping the insanity that is life, Drugs can make you not remember your dreams as much such as weed.
 
yeah that's for sure, one possible cause for me is that i do take etizolam every day and it messes up sleep architecture so that i am not spending as much time in deep sleep ie. dreaming more. I just know that is true for benzos and z-drugs and likely etizolam. Still 3 solid days in a row now with nightmares, and pretty consistent for the last several years, regardless of the drugs i've been on and off.

I don't mind dreaming but the dark dreams which i have (saw a dead baby's head roll onto the ground last night in my dream) are fucking strange, this never used to happen to me, i used to have nice pleasant flying dreams and it was fun. Now shit has definitely taken a turn to the dark side. Kind of similar to when people are put on chantix or on nicotine patches and start having the strangest nightmares, often involving dead babies for some reason.
 
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