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Benzos How to prevent doing dumb stuff on ambien

drdmike

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I have a shit load of ambien. I am taking a break from my opiates. I have not used ambien in about 6 months. I haven't done anything stupid while on ambien but I am afraid that after such a long break, I might. I'm worried that I might send an email to my classmates or buy shit from amazon that I don't need or binge eat. Any safeguards to ensure that one has a safe trip?
 
The ideal is to only have X amount of pills available at the time you take them. That way you can avoid the classical scenario of forgetting you had too much and thinking you need more. If there are no more pills it's impossible to take more and get totally bonkers.
 
The thing with benzos and Z-drugs is I typically only start doing stupid shit after I've already blacked out so for me there is nothing I can really do besides keep the dose low. Just the other night I ended up placing an order for 5-meo-mipt (a chem I don't even like lol) in a benzo induced blackout and had no idea until I woke up and checked my email, it's kinda scary when you think about it. If you have a SO or someone you live with it's always a good idea to give them control over your doses that way you don't wake up with an empty bottle of ambien and ketchup and jizz all over your walls :\
 
Yes, just check the dosage so its not blackout wasted levels, but remeber you can still make bad decisions liek you might on alcohol. I still take an extra dose here and there that wasnt planned is the effects can end quite fast but it wont be like 5 extra doses like i did on blackout levels. Also dont drink with it, while it seems to be ok and enhances the alcohol (but not the ambien), your do stupid shit and blackout risk level increases dramatically. Ive sleepdriven and awoken in other places, like at friends houses a few times after last remembering going to bed, or at least about to. Scary and some of this activity is more like sleep walking then acting normal but loosing the memory of it.
 
The ideal is to only have X amount of pills available at the time you take them. That way you can avoid the classical scenario of forgetting you had too much and thinking you need more. If there are no more pills it's impossible to take more and get totally bonkers.

^This...

The obvious answer here is: "Don't take too much!" And limiting your access to a specific amount is a huge part of it when it comes to drugs like this one...

Of course, you can't really hide things from yourself, so you may have to give them to someone else or get creative to prevent yourself from having access to them...
 
There was just a some chic on the radio the other day talking about her compulsive binge eating when sleep walking on Ambien. She'll eat like ice cream and pickles, plain bread, all this weird shit combined together, and never has any memory of it.

Ambien doesn't do this to everyone, but for the people it does.. ha, honestly the best thing to do is stop taking it and find something else to treat whatever you need it for.
 
Ambien doesn't do this to everyone, but for the people it does.. ha, honestly the best thing to do is stop taking it and find something else to treat whatever you need it for.

This. If you're actually doing stuff while you're asleep, find a new sleep drug.

Also, go to BED right away. If you take the Ambien and keep walking around, getting ready, etc then it's much more likely you'll forget to go to bed and start doing stupid shit. So take it while laying in bed or when you're about to get in bed, and make that the routine. You should expect it to help ease you into sleep, not knock you out.
 
Be in or around your bedroom - I took ambien multiple times a week for about 3 years and have been through countless scenarios...EXCEPT when i STAYED NEAR MY BED - The first thing after you get that weird kinda lethargic feeling once you've been tripping for about half an hour will be to rest your weight on something, if you manage to hit your bed (90% chance you'll be able to if you're in your bedroom) than all that will happen is that you will drift off to a very very very very very very deep sleep, and have few worries the next morning other than wondering why you need to take ambien so much.

That is the best you can do without a trip sitter - which was my case like 99% of the time i took the drug, lucky for me once I fell asleep I never got back up again (no sleepwalking).
 
I worry about this sort of behavior myself, mainly because of my history of benzo abuse and doing all kinds of crazy out of character shit.

When I take ambien recreationally now, I take a few minor precautions to ensure I stick to my bed.

First, I do everything that I need to get done before I take the pills. Washing my face, brushing my teeth, whatever.

Secondly, I make some grub. That way I can eat right after I take the pills, and I don't have to get out of bed for food while I'm fucked up.

Lastly, I get into the bed and then take the pills.

Takes a little bit of willpower, but it's much better to know in the morning that you didn't do anything stupid, even if you can't remember anything.
 
Lock your keys in your car.

Or better yet, I have an idea! Don't take zolpidem. That shit is what I would call "crazy pills" due to their reliable induction of idiocy when abused.
 
I would have agreed a while back but it seems when tolerance kicks in, the drug becomes far more reliable and useful. I also had the same shit as the rest back them, but worse with sleep driving and not only sleep eating but now its supe reliable, improves metal faculties, makes me more clearheaded and not intoxicated, works better then a benzo for anxiety and clears up my muscle aches and pains as well as some neuropathic neck pain, Im wondering if standard new user doses should be far less then currently perscribed as those single pill doses work like magic once a tolerance has built in and the recreational aspects have mostly gone a way. perhaps a 1mg day 1, 2mg day 2 buildup to the usual 10mg dose to build tolerance to reliable effect doses for new users.
 
if you black out on one pill just don't do it at all. if not stick to a non-blackout dosage. if you black out you'll probably regret most or all of what you do. i've woken up in jails and psych wards after my worst blackouts.
 
Question: How to not do stupid shit when taking Z drugs?

Answer: Don't take Z drugs.

But realistically. They're garbage, the reason the Big Pharma even made these drugs was to patent them so they could make up the money they were losing since most benzos are now off-patent and available in dirt cheap generic versions from just about every pharmaceutical company and their grandmother.

The amnesia induced by Z drugs is almost unprecedented! Have you ever went on a zopiclone bender and been able to tell your tale of it? Bet you can't - because you cant fucking remember!

If I remember correctly a lot of the most recent research suggest Z drugs are bad bad bad. Higher dependence liability than benzos. More frequent and worse side effects.

Not to mention how zop's taste! Tastes like you've been sucking on a lead lollipop for 2 days afterwards.
 
Every once in a while when I can snag a few ambien, the unfortunate reality is that however many I have, I'm going to do that night. I just can't not. So yeah, it's already been said, but it's important to make sure if you only want to do, for example, four, and you have ten, have a friend who you trust hold onto six of them. The "big book" of AA/NA claims that if you're an addict or alcoholic, after you take the first drink/drug, there's absolutely no way of knowing what you will do next, but I think that's a load of bullshit. For me, at least. But addict or not, with ambien, this is the one drug where that statement holds true. I don't use it often at all anymore, but I used to all the time. I learned to minimize the weird damage done from a night of snorting ambien over the years though. Tell your friends in advance that you're gonna be on ambien and probably saying weird shit so they don't get worried or freaked out, don't have more pills on you than you would want to do that night, try to make your setting(preferably your own home) an environment that will keep you entertained enough so you don't end up just driving/walking off and doing something dumb, and if possible, have someone with you to drive you around if you get that strange urge to be in a car. Being in the passenger seat is just as cool as driving on ambien, which you should obviously NEVER do.
I still wonder why driving is something people so specifically want to do on ambien..
 
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