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How to overcome cowardice

Lost Ego

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When i genuinely like/love a girl im such a coward. Whether it be kissing her, telling her how i feel or even just asking her out I just can't help but worry. How can i overcome this?

p.s. If it's a girl i just met and there's nothing more than physical attraction, it's cake. This problem of mine only occurs when emotions are involved. Perhaps this is because i've had my heart broken before.

Female opinions desired - whenever i would ask a male all they would say is "man the fuck up" or "stop being a pussy". The problem is: i dont know how to be a man and i'm such a coward
 
That's kind of tricky and there's no easy way to do it. It's an emotional issue and it's just in your emotional nature to react like that, While some can be totally in love without ever feeling any insecurity.

Anyway, you just need to practice and develop emotional strength. I never really worry about guys I have feelings for as long as I feel they feel the same way. But I'm not like some guys who can be in that situation and never worry about anything at all. Guys are just less emotional and you should learn from those who are.
 
Try to remember what it felt like before your heart was broken.
Remember butterflies and goosebumps and passion...missing them when they're gone.
Remember how it can be...and try to find it again.

i think this is the only way to overcome.

~token
 
What do you want to do?

If today it's in your mind to kiss her, visualize how it happens so that you have mentally practiced so many times. After enough visualization you will know when you are ready.
 
Work out, become confident with yourself, most of all accepting, who can love you if you don't love yourself? not to say it doesn't happen but it's difficult.
 
What do you want to do?

If today it's in your mind to kiss her, visualize how it happens so that you have mentally practiced so many times. After enough visualization you will know when you are ready.

I think the visualization is where the problem comes in. I see it like chess - i look at every possible situation and every possible reaction to each situation and instead of making a move i get so scared of her reaction that i decide to just not even play chess because i really don't want to lose. The biggest problem is i can't be sure how she feels about me, we're just friends right now and i'm not sure if she does what she does because she's attracted to me or because she's trying to be friendly and i'm sure she looks at my actions in the same way. What i wanted to do to her: is kiss her, and now i just wanna be with her every second of every hour, i'd be happy just cuddling with her for the rest of my life, it doesn't have to be sexual but i do want anything and everything with her.

tricomb - i would say i'm confident in my body. my greatest fear is that i'm inadequate. how does one learn to love oneself? i dont think it's possible to learn such a thing.

tokenname - i find it hard to remember life before my first relationship lol but i like that approach lol

ninnae i doubt i'm like most guys, i think i'm one of the more emotional guys that i know
 
I identify with your feelings quite a bit Lost Ego. I'm the same kind of dude myself. I will say that you should spend more time with females in general and with her. Combined with exercise, forcing myself into social situations really helped me out. Not everyone is the same but eventually, I relearned to be confident. I still struggle with it from time to time but as time progresses, I get better and better with interacting with the opposite sex.
 
I think the visualization is where the problem comes in. I see it like chess - i look at every possible situation and every possible reaction to each situation and instead of making a move i get so scared of her reaction that i decide to just not even play chess because i really don't want to lose. The biggest problem is i can't be sure how she feels about me, we're just friends right now and i'm not sure if she does what she does because she's attracted to me or because she's trying to be friendly and i'm sure she looks at my actions in the same way. What i wanted to do to her: is kiss her, and now i just wanna be with her every second of every hour, i'd be happy just cuddling with her for the rest of my life, it doesn't have to be sexual but i do want anything and everything with her.

tricomb - i would say i'm confident in my body. my greatest fear is that i'm inadequate. how does one learn to love oneself? i dont think it's possible to learn such a thing.

tokenname - i find it hard to remember life before my first relationship lol but i like that approach lol

ninnae i doubt i'm like most guys, i think i'm one of the more emotional guys that i know

Life isn't chess, there are things called variables and there are things that happen that have no basis in rationale or logic, Life is emotional, chess is a structured game with certain outgcomes that invariably end with Winning or Losing. You don't Win/Lose in life, it's not so black and white, so comparing real life situations with chess isn't going to workout in your favor due to a huge variable flaw in your model.

When I say work out I don't mean because I felt your body was physically inadequate, don't think that <3 I just mean that proper diet and exercise will work wonders for your mood and general thought patterns. Proper sleep and hydration are vital.

You really can learn to love yourself. Are there not things you do that you're proud of, or make you feel good about yourself? For example, for me, giving harm reduction advice on this forum always helps me, it makes you feel good when you try to help others help themselves. Another thing, for me is driving. I fucking love driving my truck it's the funnest thing ever to me. I love everything about it from street driving, to offroading, to racing. I love coming home covered in black shit and oil and smelling like exhaust fumes haha. It's kinda hard because at the same time I'm an environmentalist but I would be lying if I said I didn't enjoy letting out a big fat black cloud of diesel driving down Main Street, or when passing tourists.

I remember when I first started driving, I was kinda nervous about how I fit into the whole scheme of things and I felt insecure but now I am a very good, extremely confident driver. I can backup a trailer and follow you, towing it up mountain backroads, and still be right on your ass as if I was gonna pass you, haha. Confidence come's with practice.

I dunno man, find something you love and apply yourself, everything else will fall in line. Bluelight is here to help.
 
I think the visualization is where the problem comes in. I see it like chess - i look at every possible situation and every possible reaction to each situation and instead of making a move i get so scared of her reaction that i decide to just not even play chess because i really don't want to lose. The biggest problem is i can't be sure how she feels about me, we're just friends right now and i'm not sure if she does what she does because she's attracted to me or because she's trying to be friendly and i'm sure she looks at my actions in the same way. What i wanted to do to her: is kiss her, and now i just wanna be with her every second of every hour, i'd be happy just cuddling with her for the rest of my life, it doesn't have to be sexual but i do want anything and everything with her.

tricomb - i would say i'm confident in my body. my greatest fear is that i'm inadequate. how does one learn to love oneself? i dont think it's possible to learn such a thing.

tokenname - i find it hard to remember life before my first relationship lol but i like that approach lol

ninnae i doubt i'm like most guys, i think i'm one of the more emotional guys that i know

Hey! I think doubting you're like most guys is something to feel good about!
If you can't remember...and I won't say that I don't feel you on that...
Just imagine...what you could miss out on...

There's no tomorrow op...anxiety, (which is what you've got big time)...aside..
amazing is worth the risk and never comes without it.... imo, of course.


best of luck!
<3 token
 
Being able to have that desire, being capable of bonding and building a relationship, would be more than enough for me to take that risk.
What I'd give to be able to love again..
 
I can't even fathom how anybody could be near or even talk to me. I'm not joking either, it's that bad for me.

I was shocked to read this.
I feel for you.
You seem to be lacking confidence, or even self-love.
There are ways to work on these areas.

To gain confidence, I continually put myself in situations were I was not confident, and had no choice but to try.
I forced my hand, in a way, by making myself learn confidence- even if it was in public, with others watching me fail.
After enough public failures, I stopped dreading them, and without that worry, I began to succeed.

It may be harder to find self-love, but I believe that you can do it.
It seems to work if you pretend you have it at first, and simply pretend the best you can until you are living that way.
After enough pretending, one day you will wake up and find it is real.

Good luck to you, friend.
 
I think the visualization is where the problem comes in. I see it like chess - i look at every possible situation and every possible reaction to each situation and instead of making a move i get so scared of her reaction that i decide to just not even play chess because i really don't want to lose. The biggest problem is i can't be sure how she feels about me, we're just friends right now and i'm not sure if she does what she does because she's attracted to me or because she's trying to be friendly and i'm sure she looks at my actions in the same way. What i wanted to do to her: is kiss her, and now i just wanna be with her every second of every hour, i'd be happy just cuddling with her for the rest of my life, it doesn't have to be sexual but i do want anything and everything with her.
Eventually she's going to want you to kiss her.
Possibility A: You kiss her, she kisses you back, everyone is feeling good.
Possibility B: You lean in to kiss her, she slightly turns her head away and doesn't let you. What will you say? A declarative sentence will work here. "Aww, I thought you wanted to kiss me too. Sorry if I made you uncomfortable."
 
Elaborate please, I feel like I'm the same way but cant describe it.

I'm not going to go into specifics, for multiple reasons like shit memory and cognitive function to the uselessness of attempting to write out everything that happened, so I'll try to do a concise recap:
I fell for a girl. I cared for her more than I've ever cared about anything, I thought (and still think) about her more than anything else, I experienced attachment and desire like nothing else. I had a psychedelic experience like nothing else when she had her arms around me and our foreheads touching.
Anyway, to be concise, I was in teenage love. The kind of thing that completely consumes you, filled with egotistical desire.
Well I had recently made this new friend, and this girl I loved fancied him.
Me being the fool I was (and am) pretty much got them together (all the while both of them knowing I wanted her) because I genuinely just wanted her to be happy-
This isn't what I should be elaborating.
I had a bad experience and since haven't been able to bond with anyone, feel any real connection with anything, genuinely care about anyone, nor experience any sort of love.
The closest I've come is becoming attached to someone else (although only slightly) just because I wanted to bond with someone. She wasn't anything special, in fact she turned out to be a lying cunt, but that's not the point. The point is I became attached to someone I didn't know very well that I didn't particularly like (in the way attachment usually arises) and I don't even want to type anymore
I don't even know what I feel half the time. Everything is so chaotic and dissonant and uncertain that it's hard to attain any sort of awareness, and then I'm just assailed by a combination of fucked up emotion
There are so many constants, it's like a circle. There's this circle of emotion that is my range of emotion, and this circle is always jittering and wobbling. Each of this small changes is just that, a small deviation from the 'perfect' circle that is monotonous, it is miserable tedium. Anyway, each of these little wobbles is extremely fleeting and and never deviates from the form itself. The outer layer is crusty, and the inside seems empty. When examined more, it's not really empty. Anything can come from emptiness, this is far from it. It's full. It's so full that there's no space. And without space to show the difference between something and nothing, it all looks the same. There's nothing discernible that can arise, and if it does you can't be aware of it.
And in this perpetual range of emotion, my intelligence is affected. My awareness, my thoughts, my memory, everything.
It's all fucked.
My entire being becomes the shit that is inside of me, and when my present is so fucked and I grasp so tightly to my past there is no future. The past is still in my present and the future lives in the present and the present is fucked.
Now I'm just rambling because I can't explain my condition, either.
I'm incapable of loving (in most senses of the word, not just romantically) and I feel isolated and disconnected from everything. I can't build any bonds.
All I want is a companion. I just want a real friend. I want somebody to care about, somebody to love.
I want the responsibility that comes from love/care. I want the bond. I want it all.

I just can't have it. And that hurts.

But this isn't TDS, so I shouldn't be rambling on like this. I think my quote describes it just fine, and if it doesn't you'll have to come up with your own description or just keep waiting for a description to pop up on your screen some time.
 
Life isn't chess, there are things called variables and there are things that happen that have no basis in rationale or logic, Life is emotional, chess is a structured game with certain outgcomes that invariably end with Winning or Losing. You don't Win/Lose in life, it's not so black and white, so comparing real life situations with chess isn't going to workout in your favor due to a huge variable flaw in your model.


You really can learn to love yourself. Are there not things you do that you're proud of, or make you feel good about yourself?
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I dunno man, find something you love and apply yourself, everything else will fall in line. Bluelight is here to help.

Yes life is emotional and chess is structured but who is to say emotions can't be seen structurally? There are only so many emotional responses to be had in response to a stimulus. Granted, it is rather difficult to figure out what emotional response sshe'll have even though i know her quite well because i'm not entirely sure how she feels about me. It is possible given enough info though.
To quantify the outcome of a situation as win or loss was just a metaphor. (Negative outcome vs positive outcome)
Come to think of it there aren't all that many things that i take pride in. Let's just say i don't have very many redeemable traits. I too enjoy driving and i'm good at it but i dont really take pride in it. I'm intelligent (but how much pride can you really take in that if you don't hardly use it) but how much of a difference is there between, say, someone with an iq of 150 and an iq of 120? Not that much actually. I'm a good fighter but i'm not the best... I'm good at video games lol but who really values that?

Captain heroin - You're so fucking right but in one situation i get hurt. I suppose the sooner I make my move, the less i'll get hurt, right?

Cohesion - if it comes down to situation A i'll be the happiest man alive xD. I really need to do this, I'd hate to be the guy that's wishing he would have put more effort into his life, wondering what could have been, on his death bed. I really don't want to have a mediocre life, yolo

Death Domokun - Oh what i too would give to have that bond again. I guess i just said it myself. I would give anything to have that relationship with her so why am i still so anxious about possibly getting hurt? What is a little pain in comparison to having it all? "I'd rather feel pain than nothing at all" - Three days grace (Pain). Perhaps this little bit of resolve will be enough to give me the courage to overcome the anxiety and do whatever it takes.
 
How are you ever going to know whether or not the cooking-plate is warm to cook your meal if you don't take the risk to feel the plate?*

Either way, two things can happen: either you burn your hand, but this will go away shortly, alternatively: you don't take a chance and you will be tormented by a constant feeling of hunger which will make you suffer much more than the short pain of taking a risk.

* p.s. if the plate is still cold at first, smoothly try to turn up the buttons.
 
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:D i love analogies. Okay say it's cold and i can't find the right switch to turn it on.... lol. I suppose i could wait a few years when I know how to operate this brand of stove a bit better. Man i'm starving!
 
I don't know... but whatever you do, don't ask your mother or grandmother how to operate the buttons.
 
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