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How to make sure I don't abuse mdma

llama112

llama112

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I am really worried that I am going to abuse MDMA. Or become "addicted" to it (I realize it isn't addictive but it just leads to abuse.

I started using it last October and I have used it about every other week since then. There have been times when I've waited two weeks in between uses instead of one and once where I did it two weekends in a row.

I've never been big on drinking so this is the only way I really party. I love dancing and everything so raves are pretty amazing in my opinion. I also only do it when my boyfriend is around so it's great for bonding with him and everything.

Anyway, my family (on my mom's side) are all addicts, except for my mom. One of her brothers is addicted to alcohol, the other to drugs, and the other to gambling. Two of them are also abusive. My mom seems to think that I am going to become addicted to drugs as well. I have insisted that I am not because I know how to use them in moderation. The thing is, I'm still worried that I'm going to abuse it.

I have tried some other drugs but mdma is my favourite, without a doubt. I don't have much tolerance built up already which is pretty good I guess. But it seems to be that you should be waiting a month between uses. I haven't had any problems really with the two weeks but I don't want to start having problems. I am a healthy 20 year old college student (who graduates soon) and I want to make sure I am not permanently affected.

How can I make sure I am not going to abuse it? My boyfriend says you only really need to wait a week between uses of mdma before everything builds back in your brain or whatever it does (I'm still a bit confused by what it does but I'm trying to learn). I am worried that I will abuse it.

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My boyfriend and I are both in college. His reasoning is this:
"Most people in college get drunk every weekend. I get high every other weekend. I have more fun and do less damage to myself."

How true is that?
I think it would be better to do mdma once a month and drink once a month (obviously not at the same time). But like rotate every two weekends, you know?
 
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Your boy friend sounds like a noob too. the least amount of time you should wait is a month and it is better to wait 2 or 3 months to avoid building a tolerance and any bad side effects.

you say that you are worried that you are going to end up abusing E...the fact is that you already are. I would also bet that if you look hard enough for them you will be able to see the beginings of the bad effects associated with MDMA abuse.

You need to get educated about MDMA and what can happen if you continue at the rate you are going and what you can do to limit the bad effects. Click the dig red link at the top of the forum. It has all you need to know to use MDMA responsibly.
 
matt2012 said:
Your boy friend sounds like a noob too. the least amount of time you should wait is a month and it is better to wait 2 or 3 months to avoid building a tolerance and any bad side effects.

you say that you are worried that you are going to end up abusing E...the fact is that you already are. I would also bet that if you look hard enough for them you will be able to see the beginings of the bad effects associated with MDMA abuse.

You need to get educated about MDMA and what can happen if you continue at the rate you are going and what you can do to limit the bad effects. Click the dig red link at the top of the forum. It has all you need to know to use MDMA responsibly.
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I will definitely say I'm a noob, but my boyfriend has been using it for a while (years) and he is pretty smart.

So you are pretty much just saying I should slow down...

I don't see any bad effects associated with it yet ... which is why sometimes I think it is okay to do. But I'm sure they will show up. With him though, they aren't showing up, he's fine, and he has been using it for a while.

I don't want to keep abusing it!
 
Yeah your bf seems to be a little off with his info. matt2012 is absolutely right about waiting 2-3 months so your tolerance doesn't go skyward,but also it normally takes your serotonin about a month to fully replenish itself, not week. so honestly,its best to wait AT LEAST a month inbetween doses. i know it may sound like awhile but you'll enjoy your rolls way more,and avoid any long term damage.but notice i said AT LEAST a month. the best thing would be dosing once every 2-3 months.
 
to minimize the damage and make sure you always have a great time take a 3 month break

this will make each time special and you will be able to use it for a long time without any damage while those around you who abuse it won't
 
to be honest, the "damage" that MDMA causes id still unknown.

I took mdma/pills for about 3 years, every weekend without fail. 10 years later, i have achieved as must as i aimed for, i still feel sharp and don't regret consuming as much as i did at all.

A high percentage of folk from the US seem totally obsessed about "losing the magic" or taking x amount of time between does. Fair enough, but each to their own.

Back in the day I could not bear to lose out on all those awesome nights at raves and parties, and Im glad I never held back.

Id hate to be my age now and be sitting here regretting not partying enough when i was younger. - Thats when you'll have the most fun.
 
If you want to continue using MDMA without any problems then you'll have to figure out what frequency of use works for you. You say that you have not experienced any problems at your current rate, that's good. If you do not plan on reducing your frequency, pay attention to how you feel over time and be honest if you notice that some negative effects are creeping in. Problems are more likely to occur if a person is not fully honest with themselves about how drug use is affecting them. If you can avoid this tendency then you will be able to adjust your behavior if necessary.
 
I haven't dropped in goin on 2 weeks and I don't plan on dropping for a few more weeks. I like MDMA so much I want to be able to enjoy it.
 
just throwing this out there...
just because you can't actually notice or feel it.. doesnt mean you aren't doing damage to your body and brain..

It shouldn't get to the point of noticing negative side affects to get you to realize you need to slow down your use.
 
You can't get away with "once a month" use for a very long period of time. That's what I used to do, and it was way too frequent when worked out over a period of a couple years. Once a month doesn't mean it's safe to use once a month for the rest of your life. If you're going to quit MDMA in a couple years or something for good, then "once a month" MIGHT be okay, but that's not a long term safe way to use the drug.

I plan to use MDMA for many more years to come (maybe another 15) , and using it once every 3-4 months (never over 350mg, usually around 250mg) seems to be the absolute maximum you can use the drug over a long term period without causing yourself problems.

Your boyfriend doesn't know what he's talking about, and if you and him keep up use this frequent you will be headed down a very dark and dangerous path. If abused or used too frequently, MDMA has to be one of the absolute worse drugs in terms of harming an individual. Like the post above me mentioned, don't learn the hard way, stop your high usage before the negative effects become obvious and start to creep up on you.

Hopefully the more people here that repeat these same answers will make you realize the truth. If you've been using MDMA twice monthly since October (going on 5 months now), I suggest you take at least a 3 month break from the drug and let your brain get back to normal before rolling again.
 
Since you're just starting out with MDMA, it might be a good idea to switch from doing MDMA every other week to doing it every month. While 3 months is probably the best length for a break from MDMA, you're on your honeymoon period with MDMA - so I think it would be more realistic to switch to a 3-4 weeks break period. I am pretty sure that almost all first time users go on a mini binge when they first discover MDMA (if they have access to legit stuff).

The key to not abusing MDMA is practicing self control. You have to prep your mind to avoid impulsive use of MDMA and stick to your schedule. Try constantly telling yourself that you have the willpower to sit it out on your break. You'll only get rewarded for it by getting a more interesting and empathic high.

Enjoy!
 
Just wanna throw this out No matter how long anybodys been using, shit your boyfriend could have a decade of pills under hisb elt and it still wouldn't mean he knows what hes talking about.

Use does not correlate with knowledge, the kind of person who does his research, and the kind of person eating pills every weekend are two very different peeps
 
The thing is, my boyfriend DOES to research but I'm not sure why his research is so different than mine.

I don't want to get to the point where it really does affect me negatively. I don't want to abuse it.

I am not so much worried about "losing the magic" - if my tolerance goes up a little bit, not a big deal. I just don't want to take it so often that it causes permanent damage.

Seems like I should back off to once a month for a while. Then hopefully less. And yeah I'm definitely on the "honeymoon" period of it, and I know it, which is why I am trying to be careful that I don't abuse it.
 
I used to pop pills every weekend when I was in the 'honeymoon phase' - it was ridiculous. I quickly built up a tolerance and was constantly trying to get the magic back.

I took some again on Friday, after a year break, and it still didn't have the same effect. I know it's probably not the same for everyone, but I certainly think the magic has gone for me.

Like the others have said, moderation is key, and I would definitely space your rolls out as long as you can.
 
I guess I'm still in the honeymoon stage? How long does it take to get out of it?
Moderation - I really have to learn about that
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Your boyfriend is sorely mistaken.

Weird as it may seem, I have pretty much gone through the "honeymoon phase" twice. The first time, I was 16, just discovered ecstasy (and drugs in general) and was obviously floored by the experience. I came out of a very bad period of my life (got expelled from high school, lots of guilt from my parents over this as it was an expensive ordeal and in response they moved me across the country without warning leaving me with no friends) and all of the sudden an entire new world opened up for me. I used at least once a week, sometimes twice or three times, for about three months. I stopped way before I was ready to, which was obviously a good thing, because a guy I really liked wasn't that impressed with etards. I felt no ill effects from the abuse, and for the next 8 years, I used responsibly, only a few times a year max.

Last year, I introduced MDMA to my current boyfriend, and we had a little too much fun with it. While I had plenty of experience rolling, what we did was completely new. We would roll alone and just fuck and have the greatest time. We created a little ritual based off all the rolling tricks I had accumulated over the years and new ones that he added and things spiraled out of control. We ended up using on a bi-weekly basis for about 9 months. During this time, our tolerance would go up, and we would blow through grams of molly like it was nothing.

Looking back, I can see that some of the negative side effects were starting to appear, but I didn't notice them until we stopped. Then everything blew up in my face. I was left an emotional wreck... I suffered from anxiety, had panic attacks, depression, and the smallest little things seemed monumental. It was torture to go to work every day, and it created a wedge between my boss and I that eventually cost me my job (which was a decent one, with pretty good pay for my age).

There were days when I thought I would never be happy again. I realized that I had looked forward to ecstasy so much, that not doing it left a void in my life, I felt like I had nothing to look forward to anymore. We took a six month break and now we only use a few times a year. I feel great, I have no lingering issues from the abuse, and I still enjoy it... more than I did before. Still, that experience is something that will stay with me forever. I have a new respect for drugs in general, but especially this one.

The point in telling you all this? During the honeymoon phase, you will likely not notice any of the ill effects. You can probably use like this for a while, it is different for everyone. Be aware though, that the longer you continue this pattern, the worse the side effects will become when you decide to stop. My story is just one of many... do a quick search and you will read many more like it. Drinking every weekend is an acceptable behavior and is also bad for you, but weekly ecstasy use will lead you down a darker path, mentally.

I will not sit here and tell you to stop. It is for you to decide, and honestly... I knew better and kept abusing. Sometimes these are lessons we have to learn ourselves. Just consider yourself warned. MDMA is a drug that can be enjoyed with little negative effects if used responsibly. I'd advise you change you habits before things really get out of hand. Keep MDMA a positive experience.
 
You are already abusing it Llama.
At the current rate you will soon stop getting a kick out of it.
Try giving it a break for 3 to 4 months before you do it again.
Shame I know, and I dislike drinking too.
 
Take it from someone whos old usage would be qualified as what some people may called a "binge", rollin on beans too often will turn your rainbow grey and black...

The magic and enlughtenment will simply vanish.

When I went through my honeymoon I felt like I was a new person and was looking at life in such a beautiful manner I loved it all with all my heart. Raves were heavenly, lightshows were like being made of energy.

Most of all though, I felt like a kid again. I was blind to all the bullshit.

But the fact remains tbat it was all bullshit...and when you are a child its hard to see until you get older.

Now I aint sayin that what I felt on E was bullshit, but the illusion of the magical realm it created wasnt real..

You gotta make sure that after the honeymoon(when things start gettin dull) you gotta slow down.

Ex is self regulatin in that eventually it JUST WONT WORK.

You really need to forget what it feels like in order for it to be mindblowing again....sometimes forgetting takes months..
 
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