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Kratom how to make kratom better?

ellis dee 25

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I know a lot of it is due to tolerance and stuff, but I used to get a nod going off high doses of kratom. that plus euphoria. freaking perfect. been feeling like absolute shit recently (hence the kratom usage) and just want to get in that state tonight. I've noticed that hitting the 'sweet spot' is getting harder and harder, and if I underdose, I know I'm not gonna get there if I keep redosing. doesn't stop me from trying, lol.

anything I can do to get a better experience tonight? took 3.5g a few hours earlier and felt only a slight emotional adjustment towards 'normal'. in terms of downers, I've got good weed and maybe some kava, but nothing better/harder hitting. might hound for some ativan but other than that I've got access to nothing. any tips to feel good tonight? I need a break. I weigh 130 lbs and my last doses before the one earlier today usually average about 4.5-6 grams. thanks guys for any input
 
For me, it seems that the quality of the high has gone way down as I have used it ( I started 9 months ago) I generally stick to 2.5g, with maybe a smaller redose a few hours later. I also only do it once or twice a week lately with breaks of a week or two, though I have had weeks where I did it 3 or 4 times, just not lately. And like I said, abstinence of a week or two mixed in regularly.
So I don't think that I'm taking much. But even so, the high is now often unsatisfying. Inconsistent at best, even with the same batch. It was very nice when I first started using. I think it's just the nature of the drug to have inconsistent and poorer effects over time, and I don't think increasing the dose is going to help, at least not for me.
It's seriously enough to make me want to stopping taking it, which is a shame, because I like having it as an option.
 
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I hear you @ellis dee 25

All chronic Opioid users will get to a similar point given enough time. It's a game of diminishing returns that gets exponentially worse as your intake grows. Basically, you will begin using more and more for less results until you get totally saturated.

When I was in SE Asia, I had a good salary and could afford all the Morphine/Heroin a person could want. It was stronger than 99% of Heroin I had ever had in the United States. I eventually found myself injecting 4-5 grams per day.

I had the idea in my head that all it would take to feel good was more. This is a fallacy. Most addicts will never experience unlimited drugs. They believe it would solve all problems as I believed. In the end, all I was was numb. I had no thoughts, no emotions, nothing.

I remember after a time I injected 2 grams in one shot, it just made me more numb. I sat for a minute before I just screamed as loud as I could. Everything was empty, hollow, i had to do something.

Anyway, my point is, using more is absolutely not what you do. The higher your dosage goes, the farther away you move from those effects yoi desire. I saw you mentioned Benzodiazepines, which I also do not recommend.

Benzodiazepines and Opioids are a dangerous combination acutely and chronically,becoming dependent on both simultaneously is hellacious. It is not like Benzodiazepines make the Opioids "better". You just get super sedated.

The only way to truly get the initial feelings back is by reducing your tolerance.
 
Id try to get some phenanthrene Type opioids and try Mixing them with your kratom. Some Things like codeine or hydromorphone that you could use as a topping along with your kratom.
 
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