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How to accurately dose alprazolam powder?
ebola?
Bluelight Crew
You bumped a thread from 5 years ago to ask whether someone's a troll? Don't do that!
I know the MM, and I can verify that this indeed happened to him.
ebola
Psychedelic Jay
Bluelighter
ROFLOL This is so old!
Bob Loblaw
Bluelight Crew
FWIW gelcaps can hold IPA for a few weeks & then they just kind of die.
Well, according to the following thread you literally cannot overdose on Xanax?
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/326052-how-much-xanax-does-it-take-to-OD
Is it safe with a mg scale?
Toz
Bluelighter
Why wouldn't it be? As long as you can accurately gauge your dosages it should be no different from your usual xanax.
It's hard to overdose and harm yourself because of overdosing, but it's easy to overdose and harm yourself because of sheer stupidity.
treezy z
Bluelighter
mg (preferably sub-mg) scale or you might wake up in a jail cell.
sekio
Bluelight Crew
people who take large doses of alprazolam have a tendency to behave like a bunch of reckless teenagers.
Weigh out the powder, then make a liquid solution which is potent enough that you can drop it on a small piece of paper. Place the amount of liquid that corresponds to one dose on the paper. Let the paper dry then put it in the pill capsule.
oldirtybizza
Bluelighter
^ correct me if I'm wrong but I though many benzos are sparingly soluble in water? in the case of diazepam the injectable form is a propylene glycol solution.
A quick search shows alprazolam solubility in h20 to be;
40 mg/L at pH 7; 12 mg/mL at pH 1.2
keep that in mind before attempting the above post, otherwise you could try another solvent.
Psychedelic Jay
Bluelighter
You would use propylene glycol or polyethylene glycol...
When making solutions of this nature add the liquid on top of the powder until it comes out to be the ml of your choice.
This is a rule of volumetric solutions... 100mg added to 100ml is not going to be 1mg/ml... It will be off if you do it that way.
call_me_ishmael
Greenlighter
I realize that this is an ancient thread and that the person who originally posed this question has likely either figured out a solution to his dilemma or has mis-dosed by using the "tried and true" (and SUPREMELY stupid) method where you lick your finger, dab at a pile of powder, saying, "Meh, what's the worst that can happen?" (And, while I do not know the above gent who posted the details of his traumatic story, complete with the pics of his lovely scar) - I can say with the certainty borne from experience that (a) he is extremely lucky to be alive; (b) No troll would bother wasting time posting a precautionary tale, and; (c) It could have been so very, very much worse.
Thankfully for him, no one died. Trust me on this, living with the knowledge that your stupidity caused the death of another human being, no matter how tangentially, is something that wears you down the longer you have to bear it. After a while the burden makes you wish you were the one that hadn't survived - and, more often than not, it leads to a years of survivor's guilt, coupled with self-destructive behavior that either kills you or, finally, after receiving a number of your own scars, your make peace with. But, still, you never forget.
So, that whole "a little dab'll do ya" thing? -It's really STOOPID IDEA.
Therefore, while I do not claim to be a chemist or have any practical knowledge of how to make the solution.* I do know for a fact that in 2006 I had the good fortune of coming across an individual on an old body-building board known as AnonymousBodybuilding.com (long since gone) who was a merchant of many types of powders (for those morons like myself who were too stupid to pass up what seemed like an incredible deal) and solutions made from the same - these obviously for those people who I then considered 'lightweights' - you know, ones that thought that an entire gram of alprazolam was, perhaps - just perhaps - more than what was necessary for a recreational three-day weekend.
*But, for those of you who are looking for ways create solutions from powders, especially those containing performance enhancing substances, there is a gentleman who goes by the name Basskiller. He has been around on the steroid boards since.....well.....let's just say that he walked these hills when they were flat. If I recall correctly, there used to be a number of formulae on his website.
Sorry, I digress.
Anyway, his (not Basskiller, I've returned to the original tale once again) solutions were a combination of various powders and PEG-300. He used this solution for combinations with lorazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, carisoprodol (if memory serves - but, understand, I'm freely admitting that at this stage of my decline my memory was not my strongest asset) and the whole gamut of oral steroid powders (oxandrolone, oxymetholone, stanozolol, methandrostenolone, Proviron, turinabol and primobolan). I'm quite disappointed that I lost touch with him (or rather, that the MAN removed him from my life. I've never met his equal, either in product availability or quality.
You see, sadly I met him in 2006. It was a time of great stupidity and a slackening of basic security protocols amongst many of the merchants in the online steroid community. And, because he chose to follow the herd into making these same bad decisions, he was one of the casualties of the largest steroid bust in American history. This was a 27 state, nation-wide, set of synchronized raids carried out in mid-September 2007 by a myriad of State and Federal agencies. An operation came to be known to the feds as "Raw Deal". I imagine if he had merely confined his activities to AnonymousBB.com (a site that was created in reaction to the internet wide slackening of standards) he would have been okay.
Instead, he was one of the morons who, against every rule of those who are engaged in clandestine activity, participated in the madness that was the Steroid Super Board an online 'marketplace' that had, for at least 4 months prior to the raids, had been completely taken over by agents of the DEA, FBI and Customs and actually accepted orders and money from customers of the 30+ vendors on the site (and, incidentally, ripped them off - to the tune of over $70K - never sending products or refunds) in order to gather more information, more names and make more arrests.
For some reason, I have a sneaking suspicion that the agent in charge of that investigation didn't do his due diligence when checking in all of the evidence or overseeing exactly what walked out in the pockets of his fellow G-Men. In fact, I would bet a carnal encounter with my Gramma most of the steroids 'seized' were probably CostCo vitamins and such, hurriedly bought and swapped out to replace all of th gear that now fill medicine cabinets of many of the increasingly gorilla-like 'law-enforcement' agents participating in the raid.
Oh, and don't knock the offer about ole Gramma - she was a WAC in the Pacific Theater during WWII. She told me that "I felt it was my patriotic duty to service as many of those sailors as I could before they sailed off to war! And, Dearie, (*wink*wink*) one of them sailors later became Grampa Herb!" Now, admittedly, she would never have said this normally. This came out during the year I took off work to care for her after Alzheimer's set in. But, still, God love her. And, for those of you who think I'm a bastard for laughing about it, then you likely have never been in that situation. Because if you can't enjoy and somehow find a way to laugh at the honesty that is sometimes unleashed by the dementia, then the whole affair just becomes too heartbreaking to bear.
More digression. Point is - PEG-300 worked for a whole slew of different compounds of at least 3 distinct categories of powders, and worked well. I recommend it to anyone and, I guarantee that anyone who has taken a syringe full of a solution (regardless of whether it's anadrol, Xanax or Clorox liquid bleach) mixed with 100% grain alcohol, there are few things more disgusting than trying to choke that back - no matter what the pay-off or how fast acting it may be.
If you're gonna use alcohol to mix, make sure you always have a jug of grapefruit juice in the fridge so you can mix 4oz with your dose.
Hey, that might even work better, considering the synergy between the grapefruit and the benzos...
Finally, if anyone happens to stumble upon this site because of the reference to AnonymousBodybuilding.com - my handle on that board was Noname. Sadly the board shut down without warning, overnight sometime in 2010-2011. I never frequented any other BB board and I haven't since, but I did lose track with a number of really, really good people. (Those of you who have been here for a long time understand that once you are part of a community for over 5 years, the depth of the friendships that develop, even though never meeting face to face, can be exceptionally deep). Therefore, should someone read this, remember me and want to get in touch, please send me a private message or an email - it's on my profile. Besides, I think there are one or two people I actually owe $100 or thereabouts. I've always hated not being able to set that right.
Ishmael
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Lightning-Nl
Bluelighter
This.
Just read my "Embarrasing things you've done under the influence" thread. It's all anyone needs to deter themselves from ever using GABAergic drugs.
Docta
Bluelighter
I find that making the 1 mg/mL solution works fantastically well with 100mg in 100mL of Vanilla extract with its 35% AVB being just about right.
Some lumps take over night to dissolved but other then that it tastes a hell of a lot better then vodka or propylene glycol and it come in a 100mL bottle ready to go.
Psychedelic Jay
Bluelighter
The rules of volumetric solutions assures that you have not made a 1mg/ml solution... Your dosing is indeed off.
Remember that 100mg in 100ml doesn't equal 1mg/ml...
You dissolve the said amount of powder in a smaller amount and add more extract till it comes to 100ml... This is the correct way to do it.
If some micrograms meant life or death you would probably be in trouble. Please remember this next time.
sekio
Bluelight Crew
What does it equal then? The error you're talking about is on the order of 0.1 mL, which is just anal to worry about, and well within the error bars of a typical graduated cylinder.
Psychedelic Jay
Bluelighter
Docta
Bluelighter
The vanilla extract formulation is more a simple and available method to make up a safer dose.
I'm not saying its perfect but providing the starting weight is known the 1:1 ratio sublingual liquid formulation can be measured by 1 mL or 1 cc syringe with a reasonable degree of safety.
Not exactly hard to come by all that's important is conformation that the Alprazolam powder is 100mg (coin is a US dime for size comparison)
In Australia we call it Vanilla essence but in UK and USA its Vanilla extract.
The US FDA Sec. 169.175 Vanilla extract. defines that to use the name extract the solution must contain ethyl alcohol not less than 35 percent by volume and the content of vanilla constituent, as defined in 169.3(c). It is this 35% alcohol that we are looking for when selecting the Vanilla essence or extract.
Warm the Vanilla bottle in hot water out of the tap, if you use water out of the tap its unlikely to be over 80 °C so pressure shouldn't build up.
Roll a bic lighter over the bag to break up any lumps.
Make a sharp crease in a peace of paper and tern the bag out onto the paper.
Get the vannilla bottle out of the hot water, dry the bottle and remove the cap. Use the crease in the paper to run the powder down into the bottle.
Put the cap back on and give it a good shake. Big lumps can take overnight to dissolve so let it sit for 10 minute to allow lumps to settle to the bottom, be sure to draw the first doses from the top so not to pick up any lumps. Its best to let it sit overnight but most people don't have that much self control.
The 2mL fish are best for portability.