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How tiring would subreakthrough changa trips be before a rave?

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Would a few subreakthrough changa trips during the day be likely to effect how energetic I felt at a rave that night? Only tripped once on changa before, was already pretty tired and I'm not sure if it tired me out more or not.
 
My friend (who isn't going) and I were thinking about taking it earlier cos his parents are away so he has the house to himself for the weekend. I'm planning on taking 2ci at the rave and would rather have changa in a quieter setting. Wouldn't be very practical to smoke it at the rave either since its a legal event lol.
 
That does sound much more appropriate, Joe. To each their own but I personally wouldn't take anything of the kind at a social gathering or anything not-quiet indeed. Things like DMT demand respect and attention and that does not rhyme with a hectic situation for me. Some people may find that they learn to get comfortable blasting off in settings that are less than ideal but IMO from that vantage point it is best not to recommend others doing the same, because they aren't used to the same.

I am okay taking something like LSD at a festival and you need to get used to that as well, but the experience happens at quite another rate than DMT or even changa.

If it were DMT alone I would say it is not a big problem and it doesn't work as a downer, even if the aftereffects are mellow and blissful. But not sure what the MAO inhibitors bring... maybe that can make it more woozy. I only took those with mushrooms so far.
 
I smoked changa during Pretty Lights set at night 2 of Basslights in December ..it was fascinating. Stay subbreakthrough and it'll make things real fun and wonky.

Now actually smoking DMT, I wouldn't think about it at a show ..nature or in a room of loved friends, and blaaaaaast to the moon and back.
 
I would smoke the changa before and take the 2c-i later. Changa doesn't seem like it would be a good candidate for a rave drug.(and 2c-i fits the bill pretty well)
 
I'm not sure how different changa feels since I've only smoked dmt freebase, but I would imagine it wouldn't be to tiring at all. Take the 2ci, and immediately smoke the changa, that way you might still have some dmt afterglow when the 2ci hits, the euphoria would be beautiful.
 
Not certain, but phenethylamines and MAOIs dont really mix well, wouldn't the 2C-I after the Changa be dangerous?
 
I know other BLers love to disagree with me....but short acting, reversible MAO-A inhibitors do not have the dietary contradictions and do not seem to cause any problems when used with mescaline or (pure, 100%) MDMA. I can't stand 2C-I and probably wouldn't have the balls to smoke Changa on a synthetic PEA...since the one time I smoked DMT on 2C-T-7 was UNNERVING to say the least...but a hit of changa on the comeup of 2C-I should not cause an physical issues...should not is key...not something I'd do or recommend.
 
Was planning on taking the 2ci when I arrive at the rave and having the changa at my friends house. Definitely agree with "should not" and "is advisable" being very different things, not only not worth the risk, but knowing there is potential risk would definitely make me feel uneasy and ruin the experience. Thanks for the replies, good to know it shouldn't tire me out much. thought I should check since a breakthrough salvia trip left me absolutely knackered afterwards, definitely would not expect subbreakthrough changa trips to be anywhere near as tiring, but thought I would ask since raving whilst tired is nowhere near as fun imo.
 
morninggloryseed said:
I know other BLers love to disagree with me....but short acting, reversible MAO-A inhibitors do not have the dietary contradictions and do not seem to cause any problems when used with mescaline or (pure, 100%)
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MDMA is safe with selective MAO-B inhibitors like selegiline, but serotonin is metabolized by MAO-A(inhibited by the harmalas in changa).
 
i have never heard of changa before. can someone enlighten me? i have experience with DMT but not this stuff. do you guys find it at festivals? or get it online?
 
Smokable ayahuasca is a good description, it only prolongs it a little bit though. Be warned it can be very harsh to smoke so might not be the best choice if you don't regularly smoke anything. Me and my mate usually smoke joints and neither of us couldn't finish a pipe in one last hit because it was too harsh, going to be using a bong this time which should help :)
 
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