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How the F--- do u stay away from the sh*t??

Why do u use?

Like really

I use because I want to ruin my marriage, want to keep my dogs malnourshed, not to mention myself, want to alientate myself from my friends and family, wnt to become a disresected mamber of sociaety and because I do ntot want to hold down a professional job...
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oh and to wuell my anxiety
 
Really, the only sure fire way is to move to a place where you simply can't find opiates, ideally a place that you don't speak the native language. It really is that hard for most of us...good luck...

When I quit using for a few years, one day woke up and realized that it wasn't getting me high anymore and I needed to stop, of course that was a fluke occurance, but that is usually what happens when some of us quit. No methadone, no tapering...just man up, enjoy the 3-10 days of hell, and move on.

But cutting off your access to opiates is the only thing that will keep them out of mind, at least to the point where you're not thinking about them EVERY time a little boredom creeps into one's life.

Go teach english is Mexico or Russia, something like that...do it for a year and you should be feeling much better about yourself. Yeah, you may slip up when you're close to old dealers/dope spots, but then again you DON'T have to return if quitting is that important to you.

On the other hand, a dope fiend can find his fix wherever he or she is...but if you make it EXTEMEMLY hard to do, you can beat the cravings...again, best of luck!

when the time comes to quit you know. dont matter where u are or how much dope is around you
 
I got clean from shooting dope just over a year ago now, after a 3 month long daily use relapse (had about 8 months clean prior to that).

The thing I've found that works for me personally is to have something in my life that I can stay focused on nearly 100% of the time, and for me that is school and my future career (photography). I'm a full time student at a very prestigious art school and the idea of fucking that up with a drug habit is what has helped keep me clean this past year.

I'm done fucking around, feeling like a useless hopeless junkie...waking up sick in the morning spending my money chasing a high that isn't fun or rewarding any more. I guess it just finally dawned on me that it was time to grow up, and that if I kept doing what I was doing then I was going to be in that exact same dark hole for the rest of my life.

Also, it's worth mentioning that I had to build new relationships with new people as well. People that weren't junkies and people that didn't know me as a former junkie.

Complete abstinence from everything isn't the way to go for me either, I should say. I allow myself to go out drinking socially with my friends when the occasion calls. AA/NA drove me absolutely nuts after awhile and is partially what led me to my first relapse IMO. I was way more driven to jump off the deep end when I was being told to stay completely abstinent. Not for me.
 
when the time comes to quit you know. dont matter where u are or how much dope is around you

Yeah, mos def. I had an epiphany of sorts seven years ago, simply woke up with no desire to use. I didn't touch an opiate for three years, didn't need to. Funny thing was, the WD's after the epiphany were not harsh at all. After a year long binge where I used 350 out of the 365 days, I was fine physically and mentally after 5 days, and outside of insomnia/kicking/stomach discomfort, it was a breeze...and like I said, there were no lingering mental issues/cravings after the physical WD's. Something, god knows what, made my brain say no more, opiates are bad, and that was it. It really felt like a subconscious actions were at play...and I believe it will happen again at some point. I was also working out 5 days a week for about 6 straight weeks leading up to this moment, so that could be a theory to look into. I was taking a ton of protein/amino acids/vitamins/etc, again...something to try for the hell of it.

I used again after my brother and sister were killed, an uncle actually gave me a "valium"which was actually a percocet, should have known better...NEVER trust that crazy uncle you have, and of course that warm euphoric feeling triggered tons of emotions/memories and it officially started another 365 day binge.

My aunt pulled some strings and she set-up a job teaching english in Dubai when I was about a 330 days into the second binge, and she demanded that I take the job(it was 45,000 grand a year, only requirement was that I was a native english speaker who could pass a two week long TEFL course, man were they desperate, and while it's not quite as easy to get a job nowadays, it still isn't hard if you have white skin and are a native speaker, that is all they want really...to impress the parents I guess) or I wasn't welcome in her home any longer, an intervention of sorts, so I said fuck it, this will be kind of cool(and no, it wasn't, outside of the pretty buildings you're still in the middle of a fucking desert.

Cutting of access to opiates worked just as well as the epiphany, but of course, like you said, it wasn't permanent...but it did allow my brain some time to "heal" so to say, which is important, imo...And I do think that some of us, if forced to stop due to circumstances(like moving to Dubai) for a long period of time, may not start again. The percentages are probably small, maybe 1 in 50, but it still might work for that 1 person. Worth a shot...good for the mind/body/soul anyway!
 
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I went over 10 years w/o and then my marriage started to suck and I was back in. I can't say how to get off, hell at this point my eyes are watering for a hit. I hate my life so much but H makes it okay. I ended up back on the shit thanks to some painful cysts where I was prescribed opiates.
 
Really, the only sure fire way is to move to a place where you simply can't find opiates,

^^ This is America. Opiates are everywhere, our country is awash in drugs.

not all of us have the opporunities to go to other countries

I had a friend who got into Heroin pretty good awhile back, and so his parents sent him to live in the tiny town of Robison, Tx (previously from DFW) and even in bum fuck nowwhere Tx there was still a good amount of Rx Opies (hydro n Oxy Codone) and sure enough it only took a little while of doin codones before he was drivin back to the metroplex to cop dope
 
^^ This is America. Opiates are everywhere, our country is awash in drugs.

not all of us have the opporunities to go to other countries

I had a friend who got into Heroin pretty good awhile back, and so his parents sent him to live in the tiny town of Robison, Tx (previously from DFW) and even in bum fuck nowwhere Tx there was still a good amount of Rx Opies (hydro n Oxy Codone) and sure enough it only took a little while of doin codones before he was drivin back to the metroplex to cop dope

Mos def, an addict will be able to sniff out anything given enough time. Teaching english in a different country is a good option, as it can be done for the cost of a plane ticket(even less, as some schools offer to pay travel expenses). Do it in a country like Korea or Japan, and you 'aint going to be touching opiates unless you get EXTREMELY lucky.
 
The only way I was able to stay clean was to truly be fed up with the shit. It won't work unless you are doin it for you. Like it was said in the other posts, you have to stay away from people that do it and places where you cop. You have to be selfish and worry about you and not drug friends feelings if you want staying clean to work. Hope it helps a little.
 
Lol. I always seem to get clean through some sort of "divine intervention" as well. Jail will do the trick. Chinky- how do you feel being back "out?'' Ever had any thoughts of quitting for good? I get em on and off... today Im sort of stuck in the middle, telling myself that I oughta just accept the fact that Im a dopehead and make the best of the "on again-off again" routine.

sorry i didnt respond earlier i didn see this...

too be honest i went like 4 days after i got out then used again..to be honest it was the first friday i got out..hell yeah i wish i could quit but i dont know i didnt get locked up for dope so the whole time i was in there i wanted to get high. right now im on day 3 of no dope and to be honest it was phantom who called me out on my binge that i was on and i figured to give it a few days...now giving it a few weeks i dont know about but a week is definetly on the agenda..

i dont slam my dope but i feel for you..the reason i use more or less is out of boredom..if i had a job and other things goin on im sure it would be alot easier to stay away...i mean my friends call me every weekend to go out but id rather sit at home..imsick of the bar scene and goin out and getting all fucked up drunk..im a home body, id rather just chill, smoke something and watch a movie or something
 
i gotta say staying away from bluelight might help..i normally go on here when im high and when im not high coming here and reading about everything makes me want to get high..that might help
 
Chinky is right. If you really want it, the people, places, and things that make you think about dope(triggers) gotta get left in the past for a while. Good luck.
 
Staying away from music and television that you associate with H helps too. Coming up with healthy ways to deal with life's frustrations is essential. I know when I get upset about things I always go back to Opiates. I stayed away for 10 years, telling Doctors even when I was being operated on that I refused opiates. That keeps you stronger and keep in mind that even a taste will bring you back in.
 
Thanks for all of your input... honestly, I can't seem to make a long-term comittment to quitting. Some days I feel competely overwhelmed and frustrated... like a freakin loser... I've got SO much going for me on the "outside," and cant afford to screw it all up. On the other hand, Im not quite ready to end my love affair w/the dope. Lovethed... I agree... it's always "been there" for me when shit gets rough, and when I feel unable to cope with the reality of life.

Ive been doing much better over the past few weeks... I've "regressed" to less IV use and more tooting, which has been difficult, but worth it for me. I've also been able to start up and stop for a few days on and off. I dunno... there's still a part of me that believes this whole thing to be utterly ridiculous. WTF. I have a career and a family and shit. I really dont want to live my entire life as a heroin addict... even if it does seem magagable for a bit....
 
^ One method to try if you can't go cold turkey is to start a journal (keep it in a place nobody will find), put in bold your goal to quit at the beginning of it and write it in each day. Be honest with yourself and record your usage, even when you slip up. Start to taper down, try using less every day and try not to do more than the day before. Write down the people, places, and triggers you associate with usage so you can avoid them in the future.

Good luck dude. I've never used H but I know plenty of people who used for a long time and quit. Some people did it cold turkey, some went into programs, some went to NA, some are still on daily methadone (fucked up, methadone becomes the addiction to replace H addiction).

There are tons of people out there who've struggled like you, you aren't alone. It can be frustrating, but you gotta try different tactics until you find one that works for you. You owe it to yourself and to your family to get off the junk.
 
yeah buddy...but i wasnt in there for a PCS

is that what you got locked up for?
 
NA and deal with the withdrawals is the only way.... support from people, exercise, NANANANANA


meaning NA all over again..... it aint easy
 
... knock on wood, never been to jail- hope I never have to go. Anyone on here been using dope for a long time and been able to avoid legal trouble altogether? I would imagine that it eventually catches up w/ you.... G-DAMN I'd be royally fucked if I caught a case.
 
Yup, heroin.

It's such a shit hole in there.

ehh aside from it bein g jail it wasnt all that bad..i was in the annex of div 2...as long as you got commissary its easy time..no cell like i had for the first 2 weeks before we transfered..18 and 6 is some bullshit...but when you got all day to walk around and watch tv and play cards, and read ...time goes by somewhat quick

but you are right that place is shit hole..especially the dog food they feed you and how you have to walk to go get breakfast 4am and lunch at 10am...i didnt even eat breakfast, cause there was no way i was gnna stand in line at 4am to eat bullshit..i was able to last til lunch no problem

what division whree you in?
 
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