How safe is TRT therapy (various questions)?

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Recently I've become interested in knowing more about TRT therapy even though chances are I'll never try it, but I have some questions I was hoping some people could answer.

I do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Muay Thai, boxing, wrestling, MMA training etc and as someone in his mid 30s I like the idea of being able to use something to regain the "fountain of youth" and be perform at a high level even as I get older and increase my recovery time and avoid injuries, of which I have had several bad ones.

In general, I just want to know how safe it is overall.

Here are my questions:


1) I read the other day that TRT can put people at risk for prostate cancer. Is this true??


2) What kind of health risks are associated with TRT?

Can it cause heart disease, raise cholesterol (I've heard it can) cause liver problems, etc??


3) In general, is TRT safer than most other steroids??

I've been under the impression that maybe it is but I don't really know why.

Maybe just because there is such a thing as doctor approved TRT?


4) Does EVERYONE always have less testosterone as they age?

For example, I'm 35 so do I necessarily have less test than I did at 25?


5) I heard that TRT can only be approved by a doctor if you have "unnacceptable" levels of test for your age.

So does that mean that no doctor would approve me if I wanted to get it just because I have less test than I did 10 years ago??

Do I need to have less test than most men my age to be accepted for it due to a condition like hypogondism?


6) Lets say I had my test adjusted so that I had the levels I had 10 years ago.

Would that give me performance enhancing effects or would I literally need to increase my levels to more than anyone has naturally to get those effects?


7) What drugs (if any) does someone who takes TRT need to abstain from??

Is it unsafe to drink alcohol if you get TRT therapy or is it ok to drink alcohol on TRT??


8) If you take testosterone once or twice do you need to continue to take it for the rest of your life??

Like, you take it once does it alter your body's hormones or something so that then you have to be on test for life even if you don't want to??

I heard somebody say that if you take it then you have to take it for life, but I'm not sure if that's true.


Thanks
 
I know these are a lot of questions, but if anyone has the time I'd appreciate some answers, at least to a couple of them.

Thanks
 
I remember you from a while ago. I told you that taking Kratom was going to lower your test levels and you incessantly bickered back about how it can't be true.
And yet, sure enough, here you are asking about TRT because you probably feel like ass from taking that garbage; otherwise you wouldn't need to be asking about testosterone replacement.


All of your questions can be answered by the simple fact that if your levels are not what is considered low by blood test standards, you won't get it prescribed. You need to be under a certain percentile of men or else it isn't hypogonadism. Taking it otherwise is pointless. Not only that, but you should learn to use google since you could have found the answer to all of that and more.
 
Mycophile said:
Recently I've become interested in knowing more about TRT therapy even though chances are I'll never try it, but I have some questions I was hoping some people could answer.

I do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Muay Thai, boxing, wrestling, MMA training etc and as someone in his mid 30s I like the idea of being able to use something to regain the "fountain of youth" and be perform at a high level even as I get older and increase my recovery time and avoid injuries, of which I have had several bad ones.

In general, I just want to know how safe it is overall.

Here are my questions:


1) I read the other day that TRT can put people at risk for prostate cancer. Is this true??

No

2) What kind of health risks are associated with TRT?

Can it cause heart disease, raise cholesterol (I've heard it can) cause liver problems, etc??

If keeping strictly to TRT doses expect minimal lipid/liver abnormalities, regarding cardiovascular system the jury is still out, I suppose you have to balance against the positive effects from TRT


3) In general, is TRT safer than most other steroids??

I've been under the impression that maybe it is but I don't really know why.

Maybe just because there is such a thing as doctor approved TRT?

Nothing is completely without some form of side effects, but its about balance, TRT doses are significantly lower than most BB cycles therefore expect side effects to be less


4) Does EVERYONE always have less testosterone as they age?

For example, I'm 35 so do I necessarily have less test than I did at 25?

Not necessarily but expect levels to start dropping from now on


5) I heard that TRT can only be approved by a doctor if you have "unnacceptable" levels of test for your age.

So does that mean that no doctor would approve me if I wanted to get it just because I have less test than I did 10 years ago??

Do I need to have less test than most men my age to be accepted for it due to a condition like hypogondism?

You need to show below normal physiological levels, then expect to get referred to an endocrinologist


6) Lets say I had my test adjusted so that I had the levels I had 10 years ago.

Would that give me performance enhancing effects or would I literally need to increase my levels to more than anyone has naturally to get those effects?

The idea of TRT is to create as near as normal testosterone levels as possible, for a normal physiological response, and healthy living, NOT performance enhancement

7) What drugs (if any) does someone who takes TRT need to abstain from??

Is it unsafe to drink alcohol if you get TRT therapy or is it ok to drink alcohol on TRT??

Just live a normal healthy life, alcohol in moderation is just fine, as are most things


8) If you take testosterone once or twice do you need to continue to take it for the rest of your life??

Like, you take it once does it alter your body's hormones or something so that then you have to be on test for life even if you don't want to??

I heard somebody say that if you take it then you have to take it for life, but I'm not sure if that's true.

The idea of TRT is your body is unable to produce normal levels of testosterone by itself, therefore injections, patches, or creams are necessary to obtain levels deemed to be normal, you can come off treatment but unfortunately testosterone levels will return to how they were, treatment should continue indefinitely, until some as yet undiscovered new treatment is available

Thanks
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Voxide said:
I remember you from a while ago. I told you that taking Kratom was going to lower your test levels and you incessantly bickered back about how it can't be true.
And yet, sure enough, here you are asking about TRT because you probably feel like ass from taking that garbage; otherwise you wouldn't need to be asking about testosterone replacement.


All of your questions can be answered by the simple fact that if your levels are not what is considered low by blood test standards, you won't get it prescribed. You need to be under a certain percentile of men or else it isn't hypogonadism. Taking it otherwise is pointless. Not only that, but you should learn to use google since you could have found the answer to all of that and more.
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No, I don't feel like ass from taking it as I don't even take it that often.

In fact, I just finished a 90 day straight break from it and have only used it twice since October but that's great detective work...

There's still no proof it lowers test levels (though it might), but even if it does I use it so conservatively it would be unlikely it would effect mine long term.

I'm asking about it because as someone into MMA I have some curiosity regarding it because so many fighters use it, but most likely I'll never take it anyway as it's cheating.

I remember I said I wasn't going to read your posts but out of curiosity I read yours anyway.

I'm impressed you didn't act like as much of a dick as I thought you would, but it would have made sense for you not to respond anyway, knowing I won't take much you write seriously.

Anyways, I know how to use google, but wanted a better answer which I got.

No need to respond further and get ourselves in another argument.
 
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Genetic Freak said:
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Thank you for your responses.

You make it sound like most likely, TRT done PROPERLY is probably not dangerous, though I guess the cardiovascular risks are still unknown.

The only comment I have is that regarding #6 it seems that many modern day MMA fighters DO use it for performance enhancement.

Even though I guess the idea is to only use it if your test levels are lower than normal lots of fighters get doctors to say that their levels are abnormal and then have larger than average doses of test administered in order to gain an advantage.

Lots of fighters have already been busted for doing so and fined the same way they are for steroids and other PEDs.

Many of these fighters have had a definite change in physique and performance enhancement since getting injections so that was more my question...the interest in POSSIBLY using it for performance enhancement since I don't fight professionally, which if I did it would be illegal.

I still doubt I ever will, but as an athlete who's not in his 20s anymore I can't deny the interest when I'm sore as hell from a hard training session.

I even wonder if some people I know who are older than me may have used because their performance and physique seem "enhanced" but I have no way of knowing.

I was just curious.

Thanks.
 
The definition of performance enhancement is kind of a grey area here. If your levels are low and brought back to normal range your performance would indeed be enhanced. Hell going from normal to high normal (the range for normal is very large) would yield performance enhancement let alone going from low to high normal. So you may see some benefit, you may not or it may just be minimal.
 
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