How old is too old ?

[shmeghead]

if 40 is too old ,., then what's too young ??
or isn't there a limit on youth ?? hmmmmm
I have to agree with the logic that if they aren't doing anything 'creepy' then where's the problem ??
The answer to that question is 'the perception is the problem'. Knock down the ignorance barriers and life has rewards beyond imagination.
Peace all.

 

[Tarsarlan]

Atomica's parents have been seen out and about on many occasions, and they're pretty damn cool...
Totally agree with samahdi... I don't have any problem with older people going out and enjoying themselves... If we can do it, there's no reason they shouldn't be able to as long as they look after themselves... Unlike some younger people, the older crowd have had plenty of time to mature, they'd be much more likely to be responsible drug users...
I think putting an age limit on anything is wrong because age isn't a good enough indication of maturity and responsibility... Unfortunately it has to do because there's no easy way to get a better indication...
Also, I think it's extremely small minded of anyone to deny someone else their enjoyment only because it looks wrong to them... Who knows how other people see us? If other people think we look weird and fucked up, does that mean we should stop?
Horsey: The best times of my life so far have been the last year or so, while I'm 21... That said, any time can be the best time of your life if you get it right... Can't wait to see what happens next!

 

[huxley]

I only feel too old around people who think I'm too old...damn, most parties I feel like I'm still 18 (thanks to some serious chemicals...) - and that was 15 years ago

cheers,
hux.
btw: anyone who's 19 and thinks someone 10 years older should not be partying with them...I've seen 9 year olds f@*cked up at raves in LA - so I guess you're too old at 19...
[This message has been edited by huxley (edited 22 June 2001).]

 

[MR. D]

Barney's rite.. i'm nearing my 130th.. I'm still going strong..
But nothing compares to the Doofs they used to have in the gold mines... in the late 1800's..
I still remember the Doof scene in the Wild West... U remember that Barney.. ?..
Buffalo Bill.. really loved his coke..
Still not sure about that country style Psy tho..
Hmmm. ponder that 1

 

[MR. D]

Barney's rite.. i'm nearing my 130th.. I'm still going strong..
But nothing compares to the Doofs they used to have in the gold mines... in the late 1800's..
I still remember the Doof scene in the Wild West... U remember that Barney.. ?..
Buffalo Bill.. really loved his coke..
Still not sure about that country style Psy tho..
Hmmm. ponder that 1

 

[-Ecka-]

Hey Bubbles , how about a bit of respect to those who partied through the establishment years ( late 80's early 90's ) so that you could be part of the scene now. It was not as easy back then... trust me.
Early 90's, 18 years old = born 1972
2001 = 28.
And there were many before us.Funny thing is that we were taught to respect them somehow , I dunno whats been lost.
Put something in before you take out.
[This message has been edited by -Ecka- (edited 22 June 2001).]

 

[*@ngel*]

The only person that has ever creeped me out is the guy thats at all the raves in Sydney, with a bald head and a wierd look on his face...always wearing a Utopia shirt... He spits out some weird shit from his mouth sometimes....{sorry if you're a BL!}
But other than that, the best chats I have had with people have been with another generation. They seem to be more educated and life-aware. I don't think that there is an age where people SHOULD stop, its not a matter of an age limit but a matter of a life situation I guess. If people have kiddies and are so fukkd up that they can't care for them {I know some people like that} then there is a problem.
But I think you will find that if you actually take the time out to have an-in-house-toilet-chat with someone older than you, you will be surprised with how much they are just like you. People don't become old hags just because of their age, age makes no difference to it.
But if ur not one to spend a night immersed in conversation, then maybe you have different views.
And thats cool by me.
Thankyou for your time.
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*Immerse Your Soul In Love*

 

[fataliss]

Totally angel.. some of the most interesting people I have met partying are in thier late 20s or older, they are really some of the most inspiring people I have ever met.
I congratulate the older partiers and I hope I have the energy and enthusiasm to keep up with the youngsters as I progress in years.
althought the strangest sight Ive seen to date was at full circle, angel place... lol a man and his wife at least over 50 all dressed in thier psycadelic clothes shaking thier booty to some psytrance.. lol they brought thier dog too.

 

[Viper72]

Yes...i have to agree with Ecka.
What alot of the youngin's today don't realise is that most of the older people they see at parties are the very foundation of the scene.
This is now and let's all enjoy it and respect each other regardless of age and try to remember where it all began.
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"Love is the will to extend one's self for the purpose of nurturing one's own or another's spiritual growth"
[This message has been edited by Viper72 (edited 25 June 2001).]

 

[narh]

Yeah, I'm also with Echa on this one....
but on the flip side I wouldn't like to see my parents ripping it up on the dance floor or pilling of there nut. (I would be worried about them)
note: they are about 60 yrs old/young.
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E's are the training wheels for the big scary acid bicycle

 

[GreenAlien]

Was in Thailand on holiday...Went to Full Moon party (aiiii carumba! woooo-hoooo)...saw the wizard of id...well ok an elderly gent that looked like, if anyone remembers (now this will show your age...) Catweazel the hermit...on ABC...thin, elderly type with whispy white hair and long white beard...in loose fitting pants and top with stars and spots...having a boogy to the psy/goa playing on the last dancefloor on the beach with shapes and what-not from fluoro strings hung about. Errr looked awesome, sounded awesome...was awesome...was given a helping hand by a Mr Hoffman.
Anyway the point of this dribble (I won't lie IT IS dribble..thank you Mr Huge Spliff ;-) ) is that this old guy was out there and having fun! I saw no problem with it, the people around him saw none, we all danced, we all smiled, we had fun...
IMO a lot of outdoor psy-type events attract a diverse age group and a lot of them over 30. And they're bloody good events! I think there's something in that for everybody...hmmm? ;-)
PS I really shouldn't smoke...much...

 

[Wet Musik]

ahhh well, i got asked the question and gave an answer i'm not forcing anyone to agree with me am i? 40 is by far the limit i would expect to see someone in a club/ party.....sorry to offend but its my view.
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Bars.

 

[icantfeelmylegs]

years of age is no barrier to anything. The point of life is to enjoy yourself by whatever means suits you and does not interfere with anyone elses enjoyment. Everyone is entitled to rock it out... reguardless.
Ooh.. good idea bout that country style Psy.. duelling 303's.. *grins*
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*Boing, Bounce, shuffle, Bounce Boing!*

 

[atomica]

yeah my folks go to parties. my dad rocks till like 6 or 7am totally straight. i've done e, speed, meth & acid w/ my mom. she is the biggest fan of psy (& also punk).
for those like bubbles n wet musik.. damn i feel sorry for you when you get older. my mom has told me she pretty much feels exactly the same as she did when she was running amok in her late teens. just cuz the body ages.. doesnt mean the mind always follows. i hope you guys just get old n boring like some ppl seem to, so you wont feel so tortured at the unstopable progression of age.
its a sad thing that some ppl are made to feel unwelcome by a selfishness that tries to horde an experience for itself and wants to exclude others. a big fuck you to anyone who wants to exclude other people. since when was fun or anything else good the dominion of the young (or rich, or beautiful or whatever..)
alls i know is that for me, a person's character & spirit is what is important. bodies are nothing. some are beautiful, some plain, some old, some young, some graceful, some dont work right at all, who cares?... i suppose you two narrowminded ones would also have a problem with those ppl in wheelchairs who go to raves?!?
well no matter who you are, if you have an open mind, a warm heart and a fun loving spirit, i want to party with you anytime, anywhere.
=)

 

[E-u4ria]

if you do what you wanna do... more power to ya!!!
i'm only 18, but if i see someone 30 years older ripping it up then i smile... they're having fun... i'm having fun, no problem...
my problem consists with young kids, anyone younger than 17 shouldn't really be rolling... (IMHO) because E does affect the brain when it's maturing, and sorry, younger than that, it's still maturing...
ageism is like racism or homophobia... it produces a lot of ugliness and brings out the worst in people... live and let live!!!
peace
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"Try combining a childlike wonder at the beauty of the world with cynicism at the state it's in, and stay sane... it isn't easy" - Me

 

[-Thoth]

Actually that was one of the things that attracted me to raves. They are so diverse... It takes you out of your personal comfort zone and throws you amongst a huge crowd of induviduals. Being a little introverted, I would have never come in contact with people of such differing backgrounds and ages otherwise. Its a blessing, and I think its great to see an older person doofing away, it makes me want to ask them their life story and gives me personal hope for the future.
Its a sad aspect of the world we live in that people are so often expected to conform to social norms and stereotypes. I say fuckit... If people looked past being part of the flock, perhaps we would have more that two parties dominating our political scene. Diversify people, and quit pigeonholing!
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The woods are dark and deep, and you have miles to go before you sleep...

 

[Trouble]

atomica - you rock! it's so refreshing to come across such a good attitude.
having said that, it doesn't bother me seeing older people out ripping it up. hey, i just turned 30, so i guess to some of you i am one of those older people

it disturbs me a damn sight more to see under-18s out there trashed off their tits. i have nothing against under-18 nights, or against the principle of all-ages gigs (just because i don't like going to them doesn't mean they should be banned) but it really creeps me out to see 12 year olds gurning away at 4am.
so i guess it might seem a little hypocritical of me to say that bubbles and wet musik are showing a lack of maturity and tolerance because over-40s creep them out, but that's how i feel. there is a difference between a 50 year old having a peter pan episode and a 15 year old trying to keep up with the big kids by stuffing his/her face full of drugs and dancing all night. they just don't have the mental and emotional maturity to deal with the downside of drugs and sleep deprivation.
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~trouble
(with a pop-o-matic bubble)

 

[rockee]

atomica, that is so cool.
wet musik & bubbles, i can't wait till you get to 35, and then realise, that you feel no different to what you did at 25, you just look a little older and know you are a little wiser...but can act as stooooopid as the next person ;-)
i sincerely hope all the DJs you like are under 40...

 

[melancholic]

what attracts me to raves is the atmosphere... if you meet eyes with someone, chances are they'll smile, and more often than not, you introduce each other and have a chat for 10 mins...
where else is an atmosphere that welcoming?
if someone older wants to be a part of the scene then who cares, anyone and everyone should be.
i presonally think all people should try mdma... i think its an experience worth trying no matter what. if youre 50, go for it.
i will admit that ive seen older people before sometimes, and been a little weirded out, but then again i can be weirded out by my friends clothes. so bah.
i wouldnt mind giving my mum a pill and sorting some shit out. our relationship is fucked, and nothing is really gonna change that... so im all for anyone who wants to rave to do so... and if some people are THAT bothered by it, just look the other way.

 

[haste]

Anytime you want to swap Horsey let me know - I'll gladly trade 30 for 18