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How old is too old?

originally posted by funki:
Most probably when i find myself moving along with life, In a full time serious job, more like a career, not the full time piss easy job i have now.
so not the case, this is when you'll want to do it the most - but you have to be smart about it. just because you have a "career" type job doesn't mean your life becomes your job. you will still be the same person, just with more responsibility.
 
I think it's rational to assume that party drugs are okay until you stop partying, I mean after that, it would be a bit sad to see people rolling at Bridie O'Reily's (Irish pub in Melbourne) wouldn't it?
Oh how wrong you are. I know of a shitload of people who take 'party drugs' at non party venues. Like the zoo, pubs like birdie o'reilys (its a irish pub franchise I believe as there are a few?) etc etc. Rolling isn't all about just so called raves and house parties you know.
I also look forward to playing a round of golf at some age around 50-60 on a shitload of acid myself. I am planning on doing a lifetime of substance using and therefor making sure I don't go too hard and burn out early like a lot of clubbers etc do. I had my first 'party drug' around 14-15 years ago and plan to be doing it for a lot longer :)
 
Originally posted by Jakoz:
Why do kids and a family somehow cancle out your personal choice of relaxation?
Sure, you may be able to indulge less often (as I imagine I'll drink less when in that situation), but as long as it doesn't harm anyone I'll be up for it as long as my heart and body stand up to the abuse.

It plays a big part, but it's only something you can understand when you're in this position - trust me, your outlook and priorities will change your actual activities. You many still want to carry on your drug use, but it may not always be the case. I've been there!
As for becoming too old in general? I don't think there is an actual age bracket but it all depends on the actual person.
People change over time - there is no telling what the future holds and what your interests may be in the future. What holds your interest one day does not mean it will the next, despite how passionate you might feel for something. I think this is also the case with drug use.
I also bet that those who have aspirations of playing golf at 50 while triping never carry it out :)
 
I planning on not making it much past 35. But seriusly I don't think I'll ever give it up. Even when I'm old I won't be getting mashed off my face every weekend, but the odd joint wouldn't be too bad and it will help with the pain from my arthritis in my ankles from years of thrashing it.
Talking about old guys, ran into my hero again at GK. He's 68 and goes ballistic up the front all night. I always give him a big hug when I see him.
 
I think that really, its going to eventually come down to personal choice.
Some will keep going after they have kids and jobs and walks in the park, when they're good at golf, having family christmases blah blah.
Some will stop a hell of a long time before that of course.
-plaz out-
 
Well let's see, i'd like to say never, but in truth i will eventually. Say, when i have kids or when its no longer ok to be scattered for a week at work, or when i just can't find enough reason to take em.
However, it won't be forever!!! Once i hit my 60's, i figure i've lived long enough and accomplished my goals so i'll be takin as much shit as i want!!!
I'm gonna need all the drugs i can get my then wrinkly old hands on to enjoy fuckin lawn bowls :)
 
Old? Who said anything about growing old?? ;)
My ex-boss is about 50ish, has been smoking on average 5 joints a day for the last 30 years, goes clubbing every other weekend, goes to raves, pops pills, won't refuse a line of anything....and he's still like any of us - sometimes having the time of his life, sometimes down in the dumps.
So yeah, when you get bored of it, CBFed or know you should not because of health or other priorites, then it probably is time to stop. Then again, these reasons are also good considerations as to whether to start at all.
 
I gave up drugs when the other things in my life meant more to me (I was given an ultimatium :) ) anyway, now 2 weeks to go before I have my first child I can't imagine wanting to take any drugs and I have been thinking about how I would react if in 20 years time I find out he is taking drugs. I am not ashamed of anything I have taken and I am going to always be honest with my kids if they ask me about my substance abuse, however I was thinking about it the other day, and I think if my baby ever comes to me and says I have taken... I will hit the roof then ground him forever :)
 
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Not sure if anyone has noticed.. but I find the parents who are VERY against substance abuse and extremely strict were the ones who usually were wild when they were young.
My parents for example - my mum (the innocent one)- Never been to a night club, never been drunk. God I would be surprised if she did anything 'crazy' in her whole life. Brought up in a SUPER strict and conservative family. - She condones my drug taking, is comfortable with it (as long as i'm safe) and is even curious about trying.
My Dad - lead the wild life - got up to some crazy ass shit in England, Germany, Sri Lanka and where ever else he went to. Is strict on me and is always telling me to be responsible. I'm wasting my youth and life.. blah blah.
I have MANY other friends who fall into these catergories aswell.
Do you think there is any chance that our views will slowly change as we get older? What seems ok now will be totally wrong say in 5 - 10 years. Will we turn back on our lives and regret the decisions we have made? Will we try and stop our kids making 'foolish' decisions like we have?
Does anyone look back at themselves and say 'Oh my God, I was like that!? No way, that's soooo irritating (or something to that effect)'. I know I do.
My brother who is 23 recently approached me about stuff and although I was so happy that he would come and talk to me about it... I was also so scared about the possible consequences.
The scarey thing is, I do know that if he had approached me even one year earlier, I would have been singing and dancing with happiness as I have always wanted to take my 'little brother' out and show him why I love this shit so much.
I hope I'm not one of those super strict parents who try and protect my child from everything in the world!
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I think it's because the 'strict' parents who haven't expirience the drug abuse life are interested in it, and can only imagine what it's like after hearing so much.
The ones that have been there done that I dare say look back on their lives and think that they have wasted thier lives.
Personally, I don't think I'll look back on my drug use and think it was a waste of time. It was an expirience and without it I wouldn't be who I am. True I could have been out there feeding the homeless, but instead I was coming down like a bitch. But life is just one expirience after another, good and bad.
 
You are to old when you decide you have had enough.
I think I have had enough. I went to Livid yesterday straight, and I had a great time. All my mates were off their head, and were encourageing me to be the same. Especially because it was my birthday.
Does any of us realise how fucking stupid we look when we are off our heads?
Today at work, I feel great. Half of my mates are on sickies.
So, I think I am old enough. At 24.
(I'll never give up my Green!!!)
 
Yeah, being straight around close friends who are fux0red really turns you off. You see a side that you probably shouldn't. It's actually quite sickening.
 
im 42 and recently (years) there hasent been an outing that i havent dropped,although more recently i have 1/2 my intake (on the night/day).i cant imagine partying without.The only thing that is increasingly makeing me think,is my girlfriend says i look like a fucking idiot.Yes it really brings me down.I love her and all ,but does she have to tell me the truth.!
 
Interesting points by DeeCee and DonnyDont.. I mean - why do men get to go on rocking and age gracefully and women don't? Not entirely fair, Donny:P
Coming to the UK opened my eyes to the whole aging thing a bit. I see a lot of young people over here but the majority of people I go out with are around 25 - 32 and I'm one of the young ones. I guess more people have been clubbing over here for longer and still going at it and doing it well. The wierd thing is all these 30 yos still look like they're in their early 20s... which gives support to my theory about drugs keeping us eternally youthful :D . Or at least delaying the ageing process a little :)
 
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very insightful...
i sorta think that cos women are seen more as sex objects for their bodies rather than just their faces, that is why they don't age as gracefully... but that is changing as men are becoming more body-conscious in recent times... i dunno...
i dunno, but one thing i have found is since i have been in the scene, i have wanted to take better care of my body, and therefore i feel and look YOUNGER!!! u'r only as old as u feel... and i feel about 15... :D (and i act like it too...) still getting asked for ID is a compliment... just the other day at crown i was mistaken for a 16 year old... even when i was wearing my suit... hehehe... its good... :) love is meant to make u feel and look younger, so maybe the chemicals that are being released in such massive quantities are contributing to this... cos it is true... ravers don't seem to age at the same rate as the normal population (or maybe we just want to keep fooling ourselves... hehehe...)
about giving up... hmmm... i don't think i am going to give up as such... just one day i won't have anythihng for a while... and i'll die during the break...
gotta keep the fighting spirit alive people... NEVER GIVE UP!!! NEVER QUIT!!! WINNERS NEVER QUIT!!! :D
Cohaa
 
When I used to play golf regularly I would often be teeing up with older guys. One guy I knew was almost 70 and was playing off a handicap of 6. It was amazing and was as fit as fiddle. He would walk the course out and never use a motorised cart. But age can just suddenly caught up. His body went from being supple to weak in a matter of months and barely could play anymore.
But there is no rule to how old is too old.
 
I'm not too sure about the whole "wild parents are strict and non-wild parents are not strict" idea, because both of my parents were pretty hardcore trippers in their youth. The difference between them is that my dad "just grew out of drugs" around the time my mother was first pregnant, whereas even now my mother has her own plants and is planning to move to Ninbin...
I think this shows that it is the individual who decides when to stop, and not the experiences or responsibilities that one is faced with, much the same way that we regulate what we take and when - we don't all have the same experiences, nor do we have the same belief systems. There are too many variables within this question to give even a very broad generic answer. It's like asking when is a good time to stop working and retire? Some people will work until they're 80 and then die, having never retired, whereas others will retire at 35 and travl the world the rest of their lives. Others again will inherit all mummy and daddy's money, and never have to work....
It's all relative to the person and their own context...
 
When u think you should stop.
I do think there is a limit to you going out and rocking all night, but that I guess is for you or your body to decide.
But drug taking itself doesn't have to be enjoyed with bright lights, loud music and dancing.... in fact that gets a bit boring after a while. I know many non-raver type people who enjoy a night in relaxing to the soothing sensation of 'high' :)
Im sure we'll slow down. Some will stop when need be. Some will go until they can't anymore...
I intend to slow down when things get more serious. Kids. House. career. But I DO believe that it will be something that will occur every once in a while, having a small gathering of friends at your house, talking about how hard you used to dance and how the music today sux... and drop a pill.
And then start telling all your friends how much your glad they are still in your life and all that loved up stuff.
But always remember my fellow... whatever we are...
Growing old is mandatory, growing UP is optional.
:)
 
Originally posted by bunny:
Growing old is mandatory, growing UP is optional.

Exactly. That is the way I choose to live my life too.. I'm 27 and I still get asked for ID whenever and wherever I go out. If you feel fresh and young, you'll look fresh and young (just ask Cher :D ).
 
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