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How often is too often to be using LSD???

My point is that people who say LSD has longterm effects, etc were fucked up in the head to begin with. LSD didnt cause what theyre experiencing, it just added on to the mental instability that was already present before the trip. But I do think that LSD has short term effects that last up to a couple weeks and then disappear, which I think is from the emotional trauma some people experience in some trips.
 
GetupKid--
If you know anything about the etiology of mental illness, you know that it isn't always simple.
However, join me in a thought experiment--
Take 2 groups of normal/average people (Schoolteachers, businessmen, soccer moms, children, police officers, etc.). Dose them with 1000 mcg of lsd in a hospital setting, wait for the effects to fade and treat them for any complications that arise and send them home after it is done.
Have group 2 take a Bayer Aspirin each, then send them home.
Now, the likelyhood of any given member of group 1 being diagnosed with a mental illness within a month of the trip is greater than the probability of any given member of group 2 being diagnosed. Agree or disagree?
If you disagree, please leave now, you are an idiot.
If you do agree, then you have just admitted that yes, lsd, can be, 'the main proximal contributing factor in a mental illness'.
Or, in terms easier to understand. 'Lsd can cause mental illness.'
Does this mean that lsd is the only cause of mental illness in those members of group 1 who are unlucky? No.
Does this mean that lsd is the MAIN cause?
Who is to call one cause main and the other secondary, when either could have been withdrawn and the illness would not have occured?
COULD there be a rare and isolated instance of a REALLY BAD TRIP, where the lsd was the singular factor in the etiology of a mental illness?
YES.
And thats what is critical. OBVIOUSLY, we CAN, give a PERFECTLY HEALTHY, NORMAL, AND STABLE person a large quantity of lsd with little to no preparation, and the end result can be them falling victim to a life altering mental illness.
Of course, the illness will be SECONDARY to the lsd usage, that is to say that it is unlikely that the drug itself caused the problem (in someone with normal brain chemistry), but rather, the EFFECTS of the drug caused the problem.
You know-- drugs are fun.
But you know what else...
They CAN screw you up.
 
^Agree.
But this doesn't prove LSD causes mental problems in normal people - at best, it hows that it can bring out already-present (yet hidden) instability. Your thought experiment can't prove what you want it to - sorry.
- Citrus
 
yes lsd can make you go crazy... two people in my grade in high school went a little insane bc of it and were sent up to mass. for treatment.. they both came back.. but with one of them it was hard to relate to him bc he thought he was a tree....no joking
its really sad
im not knocking it but ive done it..but moderation is key...
be careful kids..
 
EXACTLY WickedClown...
And as a side-note, how do you know for sure whether or not LSD is going to bring out a problem in you? Its one of those things you've just got to try... and find out. heh.
And Citrus...
Some people would say that multiple substance abusers have already demonstrated that they have some underlying/hidden instability, so the point is irrelevant to the discussion of ACTUAL drug use and drug users in this decade (You and I and Joes over there), 95-98% of whom have some 'hidden mental instability,' which was either the cause of their initial drug use, the reason they continued using drugs, or a result of their drug use.
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I'm not saying 'Don't use LSD.'
I'm saying-- Lets not try to act like the BILLIONS of dollars which have been spent researching the problems with drug use were entirely wasted.
I'm saying, instead of living a lie and making idiotic statements like
'LSD is harmless.'(LSD CAN be harmless, but usually isn't.)
'Sugar is less healthy than pure heroin.'(TOTAL BULLSHIT).
'Ecstasy cures emotional problems.' (At about 1/20th the rate it causes them...).
why don't we all get into the habit of saying
'Yeah, there are some risks involved, and even some guaranteed down-sides, but lets do some research into the positives also. There are bad sides to everything.'
As with anything, there is side A (Popular belief), side B (what *bluelighters* believe), and the truth (somewhere in between).
 
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