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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards

How much water to use for my Cold water extraction

Hydrocodone in this form is soluble to 62mg/ml.

48 times 10 is 480mg hydrocodone.

480/62=7.7

So you need at least 7.7ml of water...

150ml is just fine... You did indeed extract all the hydrocodone.

Everyone forgets that APAP is a cannabinoid prodrug... This lend to a high degree of potentiation of opiates.

This can make your dose seem weaker...
 
I never done a CWE on hydrcodone, but have performed many on the OTC codeine mixed with either ibuprofen or paracetamol tablets that are available in my country. When performing a CWE I tend to use anywhere between 1.5 and 2.5mL's per tablet I am extracting. I would only use 2.5mL's on extractions involving a relatively small number of pills, because the more liquid you use the more APAP comes through.

You can use not enough liquid as well though, you can't have the mixture too gluggy or it wont filter well, the amount required obviously varies with the size and contents of the tablet, I am not familiar with what you are using so I can't advise you on it. Also, there is bound to be a certain amount of losses during the process of the extraction, I am of the opinion that using not enough water can increase these losses. It stands to reason that the filters etc. will soak up a certain amount of your solution, lets say for arguments sake this is 5mL, 5mL loss out of a 50mL solution is 10% of your dose but the same loss out of 150mL is less than 3.5% loss of your dose. Keep this in mind when deciding how much water to use, but don't use too much in an effort to try save every mg or you might find that solution is cloudier at the end than you are happy with, and having to run it through twice obviously increases losses.
 
Jay-

Wow and this whole time I was always thinking im not using enough water..

I must be honest about something, I get impatient to wait for the coffee filters to do its thing on its own so i typically squeeze them, I understand that I am getting a pretty good dose of apap when I do this but if one was to put a finger on roughly maybe how many mgs of apap ROUGHLY gets thru when your not patient? is there anyway to work that out? I usally use about 500 mgs hydro per dose, typically always 10/325



Mentor- So what you are saying is the more water you use the less product you will lose? but you will increase the amount of the unwanted stuff? Maybe you have some experience with my above question of being impatient with filters?
 
For a faster cwe filter through like a brand new washed once white cotton t-shirt, then filter through the coffee filters, won't have to squeeze the shit out of them then.
 
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