Heroin How much stronger is tar than say...oxycodone?

[FunctionalJnkieGrl]

Like what would be the dosage equivalence in strength so I don't overdose? I can handle swallowing 200mg of oxycontin in 1 dose, but given that oxy is twice the price of H (and I've got presents to buy), I might settle with tar until after the holidays. So I guess what I'm asking is, how much H would be equal to 200mg of oxy? I wasn't planning on spending more than a 100 bucks a week on the stuff til I can switch back to oxy by January (I normally spend 200 bucks a week on oxy since I would rather spend my cash on pharmaceuticals instead of street drugs).

 

[FunctionalJnkieGrl]

And also, how long does the high last compared to oxycontin?

 

[Keif' Richards]

Hey @FunctionalJnkieGrl I'm hoping you're staying functional!

This is really something that is impossible to advise on. Black Tar Heroin is also frequently contaminated with Fentanyl just like powder. It is far more likely if you're buying from the street that you're getting a product contaminated either partially or completely with Fentanyl or a similarly potent Opioid i.e. not Heroin/Morphine as one would want from Tar.

If you are making this decision purely for economical "maybe I should try this" reasons, I would suggest turning around and continuing with what you know. I feel you are too likely to buy adulterated drugs, jack your tolerance up to 11 over the course of a long weekend and then be stuck on Fentanyl.

The only way I know of that you're gonna be able to get legit Heroin of any kind is either from a trusted source that you test or via the darkweb. From the street, I highly advise against this.

If we're talking theoretically about "pure" BTH (Black Tar Heroin is essentially Heroin that has not been fully processed into powder form. It's not fully distilled, if you will) then Oxycodone and BTH are fairly similar in potency and duration.

At any rate, if you buy BTH you're not going to know the purity. You're going to have to test it out to see how it is and then go from there. Use a small amount first and go from there. That is the only way to figure it out. It would be impossible for us to map it out for you. Start slow and go slow.

Still, I advise against doing this at all. As an addict who has done this a million times, I can say that raising your dose is never the solution that we think it's going to be. You are always better off finding a solution outside of raising your dose.

 

[Quasimoto]

It's impossible to say, because you will have no idea how pure the tar is, assuming its heroin at all in the first place and/or has fent in it, which it probably does.

But anyways, back in the day when I got good ol' cartel tar... I'd say .1g was roughly equivalent to 80mg of oxycodone (one of the original 80s).

The tar I used to get back then was probably around 40-60% pure.

 

[FunctionalJnkieGrl]

I've already been there and done that with the pressed blues aka fake perc 30's. It was a terrible kick and I'm not willingly going back to fentanyl unless they're the patches (I love those ). I've bought a small amount of tar to gauge the potency from the same person I'll be getting them from if I get more and it surprisingly felt pretty legit like the tar I use to smoke before the blues took over the market. If there's fentanyl in it, it doesn't feel like a fentanyl high, so it probably only contains a small amount if there's any at all. You're both right though. I should probably order another test kit just in case. I'm mostly considering H over oxy for financial reasons. I think I could spend less on H and get similar results as the oxy as long as I limit myself to a specific dosage like i have been doing with the oxy for years. That's the main thing. I'm just trying to save some holiday cash 'cause oxy is so expensive, I have no money left for the week after buying them. Where I'm from, tar is cheaper than oxy but slightly more expensive than blues, but to hell with blues. I stopped buying those once the quality went to shit.

 

[Quasimoto]

And also, how long does the high last compared to oxycontin?

A few hours longer than oxy, assuming it's real heroin.

 

[deadhead4lyfe89]

Like what would be the dosage equivalence in strength so I don't overdose? I can handle swallowing 200mg of oxycontin in 1 dose, but given that oxy is twice the price of H (and I've got presents to buy), I might settle with tar until after the holidays. So I guess what I'm asking is, how much H would be equal to 200mg of oxy? I wasn't planning on spending more than a 100 bucks a week on the stuff til I can switch back to oxy by January (I normally spend 200 bucks a week on oxy since I would rather spend my cash on pharmaceuticals instead of street drugs).

This doesn’t really answer your question, but I’m surprised you can even get any H these days. In most places fentanyl pills and powder has totally taken over sadly. A few years ago good black tar Heroin was everywhere and it’s what most people in my city/area used for years after there was a huge oxycodone crack down in my area around 12 years ago but now it’s very rare to find Heroin sadly. And if you do it’s usually crap with fentanyl powder mixed in it.

So be careful in the future. A lot of people including famous people have died within the last few years doing Heroin that had fentanyl in it.
They were looking for Heroin and not fentanyl and they got what they thought was just regular heroin, black tar or powder form but the heroin had fentanyl in it or it’s mostly fentanyl mixed with tar H or powder depending where you live.

And for the past few years the oxycodone pills on the street are now mostly fake, made to look like real oxycodone pills but they are fentanyl.pressed pills. So now the only people I know who can get real oxycodone get it from a legitimate prescription.

The fentanyl use has gotten so intense here that now for many people the pressed fentanyl pills aren’t enough anymore and now some people are smoking fentanyl powder. Or the powder is an even stronger drug than fentanyl.now it’s often Carfentanil or other vastly more potent fentanyl analogs or fentanyl like research chemicals

 

[Felonious Monk]

This doesn’t really answer your question, but I’m surprised you can even get any H these days. In most places fentanyl pills and powder has totally taken over sadly. A few years ago good black tar Heroin was everywhere and it’s what most people in my city/area used for years after there was a huge oxycodone crack down in my area around 12 years ago but now it’s very rare to find Heroin sadly. And if you do it’s usually crap with fentanyl powder mixed in it.

They may not be the default like they used to be, but fent-free (FF) heroin and real oxycodone pills definitely still exist. I wouldn't trust most IR oxy unless I'd seen it come from the pharmacy or 100% trusted the person but obv it's still exists. What's absolutely FUCKED though is that it's quite hard to fill a script right now. I've had a big but not suspiciously large OxyIR script at the pharmacy for over 60 days and it's "backordered" and they've been unable to fill it! And my doctor actually called and confirmed, so they're not just bullshitting me. As for FF H, you're not gonna find it from a random street dealer but it's out there for the connessuers. If I won the lottery my first move would be buying 5 kilos of FF so I have enough to keep myself pain free for the rest of my life--at my stable dose it's like 100 years worth.

Definitely worth being careful. Powder H you can fent and xylazine test pretty easily, but pills are a pain in the ass to test properly and you basically have to test every single one. There are fent and xylazine test strips--buy them! A couple dollars to make sure you don't OD or end up losing an arm to gangrene is worth the investment!

 

[deadhead4lyfe89]

They may not be the default like they used to be, but fent-free (FF) heroin and real oxycodone pills definitely still exist. I wouldn't trust most IR oxy unless I'd seen it come from the pharmacy or 100% trusted the person but obv it's still exists. What's absolutely FUCKED though is that it's quite hard to fill a script right now. I've had a big but not suspiciously large OxyIR script at the pharmacy for over 60 days and it's "backordered" and they've been unable to fill it! And my doctor actually called and confirmed, so they're not just bullshitting me. As for FF H, you're not gonna find it from a random street dealer but it's out there for the connessuers. If I won the lottery my first move would be buying 5 kilos of FF so I have enough to keep myself pain free for the rest of my life--at my stable dose it's like 100 years worth.

Definitely worth being careful. Powder H you can fent and xylazine test pretty easily, but pills are a pain in the ass to test properly and you basically have to test every single one. There are fent and xylazine test strips--buy them! A couple dollars to make sure you don't OD or end up losing an arm to gangrene is worth the investment!

For sure.damn, that sucks about your pharmacy. I shouldn’t have even commented. My bad, I should’ve said that in my city and in several other cities in USA where I have friends fentanyl has pretty much taken over in a hardcore way and people can’t find heroin anymore.
And yeah, it’s definitely not like it used to be. It’s definitely more sketchy out there these days.
And I’m not trying to scare people or something it’s just how things are now here. I shouldn’t have acted like or made it sound like all of USA. But it’s definitely taking over in some cities.

All the hardcore heroin connoisseurs I know in my city/ area can’t get it anymore. And these are people who don’t like fentanyl. They haven’t seen heroin in 5 years. like it’s a thing of the past now where I live and some other cities. the heroin scene in my area doesn’t exist anymore. It’s been replaced by fentanyl and the fentanyl is cheaper.

But yeah,USA is huge, there’s gotta be some places and people that can still get it. I get what you are saying. Again, my bad.
But at the same time a ton of producers would rather save money and time and just get the fentanyl powder instead of taking the time to grow poppies and then process the opium into heroin.

But I do know one person that gets a script of legit instant release oxycodone 20mgs.

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

Tar is hit or miss. If it's really strong it's mixed with fent. If it's really weak it's natural. There are assholes mixing brown powder with black tar. I know it's tar i see it in the spoon turning into that black tar color you can't hide it. Or you could get the white powder mixed with animal tranquilizer and research chemical combo.

If you want to get real shit go to Myanmar I guess lol.