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how much smack in your fix?

The patches are Matrifen 25ug/hr (2750ug/72hr).
Cut into 12 roughly equal portions, giving ~230ug per 'tab', allows a little more dosage control than '94% BA slap on and hope it's not too much' TD administration.
 
Anybody else have the unfortunate problem of EVERYONE knowing your a junkie? Or having family who tells EVERYONE? shit i go too see my sister and her fucking friends are coming up to me asking how's shooting up heroin? Fuck.
 
Anybody else have the unfortunate problem of EVERYONE knowing your a junkie? Or having family who tells EVERYONE? shit i go too see my sister and her fucking friends are coming up to me asking how's shooting up heroin? Fuck.

For sure dude. Family doesn't shut up about how much we "hurt them."
 
everyone knows because its fucking obvious.
When you quit and stay off for a little you notice how rough people on opiates look. I thought i looked normal when i wasnt high, yeah fucking right. You look terrible on opiates.
someone was like wow 250mg street heroin in a shot.
i used to shoot a half bundle as my normal dose, and if i had money to blow, id go through more than that.
Half a bundle is going to be around 250mg, and i knew people who were doing bundle shots, like real real bad dopefiends.
saw a dude shoot an entire bundle and was like shit mane. In one shot.
cause at the time i could shoot a bundle in less than an hour, but dude literally shot an entire bundle of average quality bags, and wasnt even nodding out too bad.
i was like damn mane.
 
I understand they don't like to see me being a drug addict and all that but then get out of my life. They really don't have to tell everyone. And as far as being able to tell i don't think i look so bad (but maybe that's because im high) i still do my make up every day and function in society. I never go without long sleeves in public but is winter anyway the olny "tell tell" signs i think i have appearance wise is pin point pupils and being really skinny
 
That and the bags under my eyes. I too always shower and do myself up, I also am pretty into fashion even tho most ppl refer to my style as heroin chic lol I still always look presentable so I've been able to keep it under wraps from the fam bam. However, in college when I had early classes I'm sure my profs knew something was up with the incessant absences and constant running nose and coughing on the rare occasion I did show up
 
Pretty much all of my family knows i have an opiate addiction they never did ask to what opiate because im sure they already know the answer and then ive olny told i few close friends but word gets around from my big mouth family. I get alott of "u look tired" "are u okay? " and "your so skinny how do u do it"
 
^ feel it when i got straight everyone just kept accusing me of using even tho i was in rehab taking daily piss tests so i figured hey might as well use and quit rehab picked up heroin never put it down
 
So youre seeking approval from others.
have people accused me of using drugs since ive maintained an image of "sobriety"? Yes. Generally, they were right, but me being open enough to not give a fuck, offer up urine, and all that, has allowed me to get away with mad shit.
If someone accuses me of using, and im not, you know what i do? Disregard them and offer to take a urine test. Now, i get satisfaction from myself, for every day that i stay off of heroin. Satisfaction that i am not living that life anymore.
Itll get bad enough for you eventually, if you dont overdose first, hopefully you live to see how ridiculous the heroin lifestyle is and how sad addiction is.
youre just justifying your use because you want to use, but know it isnt good, so you grasp at straws to come up with any possible excuse to use.
"Oh, they say i am a junkie, and it bothers me, so i am gonna go out and prove them right"
you know how insane that is?
Im not even saying this shit to like come at you
but like
idk that attitude is going to kill you, real shit. They arent lieing when they say heroin kills. It kills, a lot, and youre playing a guessing game that if you lose, you die.
 
I'm not seeking approval im just weak. I know this shits bad its awful really its completely ruined my body and health. Yes i know its going to eventually get me and ill die but i just can't get off the shit no matter how hard i try i was just saying that was what broke me first and now i dont even know who i am without it
 
Thats a pretty shitty answer. No offense but if ur slamming up all the smack without acknowledging the amount or quality your gonna overdose very soon dude
 
That's correct but, alas, I usually smoke my dope so it gets hard to determine when one sesh ends and the next begins. When I'm goin hard, it's always far too much and, simultaneously, never enough haha. Ain't anything I'm proud of, that's for goddam sure.
 
Oh don't know much about smoking doeses i don't smoke it i snort or shoot everytime i shoot i have a habit of tasting the drug
 
Going into a heroin deal knowing imma need 2-3 bags if they're real good and real fat and I got potentiators sucks. Yes that's not like shooting a bun but its a damn lot for someone like me who does opiates less than once a month,sometimes less than once every 3-6 months.

I don't know where you're buying from, so that makes a difference as what type of bags you're getting. In CT, it seems like they're mostly the thinner style bags. You'll see these in Hartford and they typically aren't that fat, but they're really cheap, like half price of what it is in New Haven. However the bags in New Haven are typically the wider ones and have more dope in each bag.

Back about 3 years ago even though I already had 6.5 years of opiate abuse/addiction I had been coming off a period of being clean. I was shooting at the time and had shot up numerous times before. At this time I was probably using 2-4 times a week, but that was too much so WDs started coming back and it was too easy to start using everyday. Anyways when I was using the 2-4 times a week, I had picked up bags lets say on a Tuesday. I maybe got 5 and sold 2 or 3 to a friend. These were really good bags. Shooting 1 got me blasted. So the next day I figure I'll buy 6 and just keep them for myself. They were really good bags and I wanted to grab them while they were around. Since I had been using a bit and already had a lot of previous experience I decided to do a 2 bag shot. Not a huge leap and typically not too big of an amount even though these were the bigger style bags.,

Since I knew the dope was good I knew I'd get a good rush. I actually had pushed 911 in on my phone and figured if I felt like I was getting in trouble alls I'd have to do is push send. Did the shot, took the needle out of my arm, and then lights out Carl. I don't know exactly how close I was to dying, but it couldn't have been too far. If it had been a 3 bag shot I wouldn't be posting here now. After about 40 minutes I suddenly came to. I was sitting in the drivers seat slumped over onto the passenger seat. The passenger seat had dope bags, needles, needle caps, piece of cotton all out there in plain view. The belt was still pulled through and was resting on my lap. If anyone saw that they would probably think I was dead or I possibly could have been arrested. That didn't matter at the time because I was so out of it. I had to go on at least a 25 minute ride home and I was not sure if I could make it. I was sweating bullets when I woke up and I had a killer headache, most likely from not getting enough oxygen.


Anyways the moral of the story is bags are so subjective that I can never really understand where someone's tolerance is at when just hearing numbers like this. I know several people who use a bun or 2 buns a day from Hartford. I got a bun earlier today from Hartford and the dope was alright. Not fire, but it was good enough to get a rush and a decent high. I already did the whole bun though, two 3 bag shots and one 4 bag shot. For where my tolerance is now, if I had gotten a bun from New Haven and it was the good quality dope, I probably could've done the whole bun, but I'd be much more fucked up than I am.

So if I ever hear of people shooting grams or multiple grams in a day, it just makes me think the dope isn't that great, even though no one will ever say that. Years ago they did a study where they took life long addicts and gave them as much heroin as they wanted. They were monitored for safety, but they were allowed to get and go as high as they wanted. The point of the experiment was to see if people would just keep using more and more or if there was something like a ceiling level. In doing this they were removing any financial issues, removing chances of deals going bad, removing the criminal aspect so you can't get arrested, and they were giving them the same quality product everyday throughout the experiment. It wasn't like in the real world where one day the bags might be fire and then the next day they're decent. Anyhow, I believe all the people stopped at between 2 and 2.5 grams. Now I'm sure this was medical grade heroin (diacetylmorphine), but after reading that it always makes me skeptical of people who talk about doing more than a gram a day.


Sorry for the long post. This isn't directed solely at you TopHat just anyone posting how much dope they're doing or how much they need. So like in the OP the poster said he uses a gram a day and that makes him feel more normal as opposed to high, this after not being addicted for that long. That just sounds like weaker dope. Maybe weak is the wrong word, but more like an average level, not fire I wouldn't think. OR the poster has the weights off. Then again maybe he is doing that much. It's all very subjective.

It's not we're all comparing how many 30's we could blow. That would be a dope-ass competition though. "As soon as you nod, you're out! Keep blowin' til ya can't blow no more"

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For those TLDR people:

---Bags are subjective depending on the style of the bag and location it was purchased in.

---Heroin strengths vary greatly and are entirely subjective

---IMO, generally people who say they do a gram or multiple grams a day must have weaker dope or have incorrect weights

---They did a study using life long addicts where they got all the medical grade heroin the wanted for the sole purpose of seeing how much they'd use. All ended up staying around the 2-2.5 gram area

---Contest where we blow 30's and are eliminated only once you start nodding.
 
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That's actually really good insight Carl. The reason I stopped seeking heroin was the vast variability that you talk of. I usually got new York bags a couple rungs down the ladder but even when you're buying from someone who gets a lot at once it can still be shit. When I say .25g heroin I mean stomped on already in bags stuff.

I'm totally on the same page about being skeptical, because how much pure di acetyl morph one could that balloon of tar really have?

Pharma, while extremely expensive, have the benefit of known dose and therefore strength.

My favorite opiate is pods and those, being plants, are sadly variable as well.

Contest to snort oxycodone is on. Everyone gets a head start on whosa jigaa waa
 
My shits not weak its not "fire" a gram usually gets me feeling normal although theyd be days when id get up and do my fix and overdose. I don't go for tar i normally get the tan/ light brown powder and occasionally china white.
 
Where do u guys draw the line with doing drugs with other people? Me personally i wont shoot up anyone for the first time unless there positive they want it and are gonna do it regardless if i shoot em or not. Absolutely no minors. And i wont get somone high on heroin or sell it to them if its there first time.
 
I notice people usually top out at about 2g/day of very pure product when they have (basically) unlimited access. But there are those who blast 1g+ shots throughout the day whose habits get fucking ridiculous. A lot of dope these days is very pure if you're getting it from the same reliable source that directly import it; you'd be surprised. I've seen lab test results of 90-95% for ecp. Tar is a bit trickier to quantify purity with because of the 6-mam and mix of alkaloids but is often subjectively just as strong.
 
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