How much seeds required for getting high? (Black henbane/jimsonweed seeds and morning glory seeds) and best consumption method?

[Chaurus]

The T.R. called "A Tale of Nudity, Insanity & Arrest" is the best one on Erowid imho.

Running around naked shouting "I am The Terminator" sure is full of lolz but waking up in a Jail Cell isn't that funny.

Somewhere on YouTube there's a video of a mother crying because her son died from taking jimsonweed.

It's heartbreaking.

Please watch out.

 

[red22]

 

[daturetard]

That seems like some AI bullshit above

Don't mix all that together. Only thing I can guide with is morning glory seeds. 200-300 heavenly blue morning glory seeds will give you a good trip but you may puke about an hour after ingested. Get the freshest ones you can, not ones from packs of seeds possibly treated with chemicals, grind them up in a coffee bean grinder, then eat them on a peanut butter sandwich or milkshake. You will trip if you do that

Yes to all that except the words "good trip". The nausea is absolutely unparalleled, the taste is top 5 worst, and id say Im in the 1% of having tasted the most disgusting shit you can imagine by sheer volume. Also unless you sprout them to convert the lsa to lsh, its one of the most uncomfortable experiences ive ever had.
Sprouting is the only way ime, and have actually had one of my most positive trips of all time off sprouted heavenly blues.

 

[Chaurus]

That was the one.

 

[red22]

Also unless you sprout them to convert the lsa to lsh, its one of the most uncomfortable experiences ive ever had.
Sprouting is the only way ime, and have actually had one of my most positive trips of all time off sprouted heavenly blues.

The hydroxyethylamide long thought to be psychoactive actually can never reach the brain, since this compound is a labile adduct of ergine and acetaldehyde. It is therefore transformed into ergine and isoergine rapidly, even by mild extraction methods.

vbest regards,
peter

Peter Webster. Quoted by @tregar, https://drugs-forum.com/threads/lucid-visual-morning-glory-extract-theory.30919/#post-184703 (2006-09-04)



LAHydroxyethylamide was not discovered right away since even gentle extractions tended to convert it all to ergine/isoergine, so this would indicate that the equilibrium lies far toward the ergine/isoergine side of the equation. And it suggests strongly that to produce LAH from ergine you would need some special conditions, which are probably not just having it in the presence of even higher concentrations of acetaldehyde, amounts that you wouldnt at all want to ingest!

Also, since LAH->>ergine in mild conditions, you must assume that it would happen in the bloodstream, even if LAH were able to pass the digestive tube. So there is anotherdoubt about whether it could actually arrive at brain receptors.

Of course, there may be some complicating factors here that aren't described in the papers I've read, That's possible with a great many aspects of LA chemistry (there are still a couple of quite important and unexplained results I got in certain experiments - I even asked Sasha and he couldn't clarify!) but for me, the odds of LAH getting to receptors and causing the initial reaction leading to psychedelic experience are quite low.

Peter Webster, 2016-01-05, personal correspondance


Perhaps sprouting boosts the levels of lysergic acid hydroxyisopropylamide (a.k.a. ergonovine), which has been found in the seeds in levels one-tenth to one-third of ergine.[1] Hofmann's description of ergonovine[2] sounds more psychedelic than his description of lysergic acid amide.[3]

1. https://www.bluelight.org/community/threads/948414/

See the three "Pack" "Ergometrine" entries on the table.

2. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27905381

3. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29330239#29330239

 

[red22]

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This is NOT a casual herb like ginger or chamomile. Datura is powerful, potent — and yes, TOXIC and can make one psychotic when disrespected.

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[Snacktion_Jackson]

You don't know me from Adam, but I strongly recommend you stay away from deliriants...Especially jimsonweed as it has a way more lethal profile than angel trumpets (datura). I drank the distillation of 3 full datura flowers in a fractionally distilled tea and it was exactly like dreaming while awake. It was a nightmare I couldn't wake up from WITH all of the consequences. If I didn't have an army of friends that showed up to make sure I didn't die, I wouldn't be here. It was not fun, it was a nightmare.

I completely understand the curiosity, believe me I do. It's been my downfall as well. I strongly recommend you, and anyone else stay away from deliriants.

...If for no other reason than they are NOT fun. They are NOT a good time.

 

[BadBoy377]

Angel Trumpets flowers hang downward. Datura flowers point upward. Henbane just kinda points out the way.

Taking any of these plants is risky. Very risky if you take them internally. Alkaloid levels vary widely between plants for a variety of reasons.

The safest way to consume is smoking. Grow your henbane. Collect the seeds. Dry and grind. Dry some more. Put in a joint. Maybe 0.25 - 0.5g. YMWV. One potential method is to roll a couple spliffs. It's unlikely you'll manage to roll another after smoking. Smoke one or both and see how you go. Be prepared to pass out, fall over, hurt yourself on otherwise benign household objects and piss yourself.

Just go buy or manufacture some proper drugs would be my best advice.

BB

 

[MedicinalUser247]

Henbane and Jimson weed you want to stay away from because they contain high levels of Hallucinogenic Anticholinergic alkaloids which can be toxic. Morning Glory seeds aren't so bad because the active Hallucinogen in them is LSA which is much safer to use.

 

[steak pouch]

Hello I am wondering how many seeds are required to get high on scopolamine and which seeds would be best, Jimsonweed or black henbane?

I am also wondering how many morning glory seeds are required to get high on LSA.

What would be the best method to consume the seeds? Crushing them and eating them or making a tea out of them? Is it possible to crush and smoke the seeds?

Im planning on mixing scopolamine, lsa, gabapentin, thc, and blue lotus all together to get high as hell.

I've only done LSA between the two. I've taken between 6-12g ground, steeped into a tea, and strained. I wouldn't imagine smoking them would work very well, but I don't know for sure.

 

[bigjackaal96]

You can buy Kwell's Scoplamine pills where 1.5 ~ 4mg should be the Deliriant dose range which what gives Datura It actual effects. If you have DXM poli matching 450mg DXM HBr you can get a more potent version of Counterflipping with It own effects not seen In DPH.

 

[daturetard]

10 seeds of jimsonweed could be quite strong dose, so better to start with lower amount, I would say max 5.
Do not combine it with anything. Do not even have any drug at your disposal if you try it, with enough tropanes you will forget that you have taken it.
Crushing and eating is fine.

Be prepared that datura could be extremely unpleasant, its recreational potential is very low.

This isnt a diss or anything but your dosage info is off. I know online guides say 3 can be lethal and that's widely known to he false, but in my somewhat expensive experience, 8-12 is the threshold dose.
This is not advice to anyone though, and as I said if anyone dose intend to use it, do the sugar dilution/homongenization method and start LOW. Dont redose. Much love.

 

[doubledog]

People's reaction and also potency of plants are very variable, for me personally threshold dose is 2 seeds, 10 seeds is moderate dose and over 20 seeds is strong dose.
Nobody knows in advance what would be their reaction, so main rule is to start very low to test potency and individual reaction.

For most people, 10 seeds is not a strong dose, but for some it really is.