How much is an 'acceptable' amount of Ketamine?

[imonfire]

Ok, i use Ket every weekend (about 2g over the weekend), is this considered quite a safe amount or will i start running into problems?

thanks...

 

[sekio]

Only you will be able to tell. If you're not doing it frequently then that's a fair amount but still safe.

 

[J-R]

ket as a damaging effect to liver and kidneys, its also addictive physically as well as mentally as far as i remember. imo i think that sounds a fairly high amount to be taking mostly because of the long term health risks. some regular users have ended up with permenant damge. might be worth looking into the risks.

 

[sekio]

Ket doesn't damage the liver or kidneys - more the bladder and urinary tract, and can cause gallbladder spasms. Nor is it physically addictive until you start taking anesthetic doses all the time (multiple grams a day all day). Tolerance builds very rapidly and if you want to remain wobbly you will have to escalate your dose.

It can be an excellent and very addicting escape though. Two grams over two days is certainly on the high side of things but not unheard of, an unnecesary risk, or uncommon. As long as you don't continue usage of ketamine you should be fine and have very little risk of bodily harm or addiction.

 

[J-R]

if its bladder then my mistake i was trying to recall an article i read but the element of risk is still present and high use every weekend cant be good

 

[imonfire]

Thanks for the replies, does anyone know if using 2g over the whole week instead of a heavy session on the weekend, will be any safer/betting in the long run?

I thought i was a relatively light user because most of my friends do ALOT more than me, but obviously not. I will now cut down to 1g.

 

[sekio]

The danger from ketamine comes from high doses over a long period of time. Both in terms of physical harm and addiction risk. If you're going to dose ketamine there's no point in doing it all the time because tolerance will develop - but huge binges aren't healthy either. Don't make it a habit is all I have to say. In the long run, ketamine use without very strict dose control ala Jamshyd is probably a bad idea regardless of if it's used in low doses or binges.

You shouldn't really need more than half a gram to get really, really messed up for the better part of a night.

 

[Jamshyd]

^ Not sure what exactly is this refering to? .

Either way, in 7 years I only ever once got a bladder-infection, and that's when I started IMing big doses from a brand that is very different from the one I usually use. After taking a course of antibiotics and had the infection cured, I continued to use K in a controlled manner without any issue .

Never accrued any tolerance whatsoever... I can still IM 70mg and be blown away.

 

[imonfire]

^ Not sure what exactly is this refering to? .

Either way, in 7 years I only ever once got a bladder-infection, and that's when I started IMing big doses from a brand that is very different from the one I usually use. After taking a course of antibiotics and had the infection cured, I continued to use K in a controlled manner without any issue .

Never accrued any tolerance whatsoever... I can still IM 70mg and be blown away.

To be honest, I have way over-done it over christmas, and going on multi-day binges i can literally see my tolerance sky rocketing before me. However I am determined to sort this out now and not let it get out of hand, although i believe this is a small problem compared to alot of people. 1g a week seems quite a reasonable amount and will be half of what im currently on which is alot better.

 

[I NUK3D U]

I've got enough thoughts about ket to write a book so PM me if you're interested in a longer chat.

I would say that if you're able to enjoy ket on the weekends only, and can keep your personal use to about 1g-2g a session, then you're not doing too badly. Make sure you drink lots of water throughout the weekend to stop any pee problems, and always make sure you crush up your crystals as much as possible before snorting.

 

[lightforce]

I would say 2g over weekend isn't that much by the the second day comes around your tolerance will be fairly high. I can do that in less than a day but that's because I have a huge tolerance. On new years me and my friend bought an ounce and we got rid if about 8 grams of that and then had the rest to ourselves, doing bumps/rails all day and night. By the next morning we were doing half gram lines to even be able to get to where we wanted. It was not a good situation. As in fill a bag, crush it, dump baggy and then rack up some lines.

The only thing I noticed after this huge binge is that I have to pee a little bit more often but other than that no real I'll effects have popped up (yet).

On the bladder problems a friend of a friend was doing huge amouts and I mean huge over a period of time and is now on permanet disability because his bladder hurts all the time. He's on 4 different types of medication to help dull the pain. And if he drinks anything other than water he has to pee in like 5 minutes.

Be careful with this stuff, it's very addicting. For me mainly because there isn't much of a hangover to speak of.

 

[Solipsis]

You are getting into bad territory if there is getting some compulsion into your use. If you can say: "well it's great doing it but I'm fine as well without it, no problem just not doing it for the next month" then nothing is wrong.
At first you might get away with the claim that you are getting to know it for some period but I wouldn't underestimate the power of it to become a habit let alone addiction.

It matters if you are an escapist person by the way, and or have reasons to escape things.

 

[Chemical Wizard]

If you keep up a level of use that is having you come here and asking "is this level of us okay ???", then chances are that - even if you're okay - you're ketamine trips are going to start to become boring soon.

Here's my advice. Even though ketamine is super awesome and you want to do it all the time, put the breaks on sometimes, and just let your cravings for it grow and grow, until when you DO buy it next time, it'll be super awesome, and really strong, and your trips will still be full of novelty and you'll save a bunch of money to boot !

That's how I feel about my own use anyways. I looooove ketamine. LOVE the stuff. But after it was no longer "new" to me anymore, I decided to limit ketamine use to "special" occaisions. I usually just buy 1g-2g's a couple times a year, and try to using it when I'm doing other drugs, like LSD or MDMA, or coming down from this or that RC or something.

I think the best way to use ketamine, is to use a "bunch" of it in a small amount of time, and then take a long extended break.

I reallllllllllllllllllllllly want to get my hands on some methoxetamine though, mmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmm.

 

[PoppyLlama]

Nor is it physically addictive until you start taking anesthetic doses all the time (multiple grams a day all day).

It can be an excellent and very addicting escape though. Two grams over two days is certainly on the high side of things but not unheard of, an unnecesary risk, or uncommon. As long as you don't continue usage of ketamine you should be fine and have very little risk of bodily harm or addiction.

I think that was stated incorrectly, and could be very misleading and even dangerous for the OP. Although it is much less likely to get physically addicted, ketamine is an addictive drug and you don't need to take anesthetic doses all day to get physically addicted. However, the OP said he has been doing it only on weekends, which most likely means he's not yet physically addicted.

Honestly OP, I would stop ketamine usage at least for a little while, if not for a LONG time. It can be a very dangerous drug, be very careful. Every weekend is definitely a heavy amount of ket usage. I would at least try to keep it down to two or three times a month..

 

[delta_9]

Ok, i use Ket every weekend (about 2g over the weekend), is this considered quite a safe amount or will i start running into problems?

thanks...

For what it's worth, I've used ketamine for a longer period of time and with larger doses and I didn't experience any over the problems accociation with ketamine metabolties and damage/irritation to certain excretory organs.

Of course this is just one mans tale. The risks and dangers associated with prolongued ketamine use are certainly no mystery, and there are some great threads on this very topic itself

 

[Legerity]

Just focus on how much it is affecting you. Other people may use more than you with fewer consequences, or vice versa. If you've already cut down by half then great job

 

[DexterMeth]

Ya I actually never ran into any problems what so ever with long term K binging. I'd use 2-4 grams a day, and that was absurd, and I IV'd half the time.

There's really no point in doing this though, because, eventually your tolerance will raise so high, you might as well just drink alcohol.

 

[Big)Sky]

I personally know someone who used ALOT of ketamine daily for a solid year. Damm near lost his mind. He would do gram lines with ease. Check out the Ketamine addiction forum.

We used to go to his house and there would be gram lines on the table for us. Ide have to take 1/6 of the line and be SO k rocked.

 

[Tunnelfission]

Take proper breaks from any substance, long enough so that you forget about going back to it...then go back to it! too much of any one substance and one starts to notice the drawbacks of that particular substance. frankly some mental ones may be hard to notice from an inside perspective to. i've yet to try Ket to see what it is like though..

 

[dcraver877]

lol big sky that sounds exactly like my friend. he'd have like 4 .6-.7 lines out and i'd take a matchhead bump and he'd rail two whole lines. He'd be like "did you take any man???"


lol he was so frustrated when i told him i only needed a tiny bump