How much codeine for first time?

[Cuhpcakes]

The only opiates I've tried before was oxycodone at dosages around 10-20 mgs. Even such low amounts produce euphoria, but awful nausea. My tolerance to opiates is very low, if not existent.

What is codeine like? Similar to oxycodone?

Does it produce as much nausea?

What's a good starting dose? I'm thinking 30-60 mgs.

 

[Pleh]

30-60mg is the therapeutic dose so you are unlikely to experience any noticeable recreational feelings from that amount. I would suggest 90 mg as a first dose; assuming you already know you are not allergic to the substance. If your pills contain large amounts of acetaminophen you should perform a Cold Water Extraction. Consuming too much of that stuff on a regular basis will seriously ruin your liver.

Codeine can be a very dizzy/itchy opiate, good luck.

 

[delerium1988]

as mention over here 90 mg (I extracted around 140 mg first time..was in HEAVEN..but dont recommend that dose to you)..dont go overboard if you have no tolerance..i can eat 340 mg because my tolerance..but it sucks that the tolerance builds up so damn quick..and you will need alot more thant the time before..take care and be carefull

 

[Rybee]

120 mg for a first time user IMO

 

[Cuhpcakes]

Is it smart to redose on this stuff? I was thinking of trying 60 mgs on an empty stomach. After an hour if I crave more I'll take another 60 mgs. I want to do this so won't be overwhelmed.

I have four 30/300 (codeine/acetaminophan) pills so I'm grateful that they're so potent. Since taking other forms would resort to even more excessive amounts of tylanol.

I read that you're only allergic to codeine if you own a Cyp2d6 deficiency. Oxycodone and dextromethorphan substrate this enzyme, correct? I'm very experienced with dxm and oxy so would I even have to worry?

What is the high like? How long do they take to kick in and last?

 

[Rybee]

I honestly doubt you'd notice anything at 60mg, that's the normal therapeutic dose for minor pain.

For me at 300mg the high is just a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Takes about 30 minutes to kick in.

 

[Cuhpcakes]

I honestly doubt you'd notice anything at 60mg, that's the normal therapeutic dose for minor pain.

For me at 300mg the high is just a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Takes about 30 minutes to kick in.

10 mgs of oxy is therapeutic as well but I have great effects.

Is redosing opiates smart? I just don't want to take too much at once.

 

[Rybee]

10 mgs of oxy is therapeutic as well but I have great effects.

Is redosing opiates smart? I just don't want to take too much at once.

You wont.

I've taken ~600mg Codeine in 2 hours many, many times before.

 

[Cuhpcakes]

30-60mg is the therapeutic dose so you are unlikely to experience any noticeable recreational feelings from that amount. I would suggest 90 mg as a first dose; assuming you already know you are not allergic to the substance. If your pills contain large amounts of acetaminophen you should perform a Cold Water Extraction. Consuming too much of that stuff on a regular basis will seriously ruin your liver.

Codeine can be a very dizzy/itchy opiate, good luck.

as mention over here 90 mg (I extracted around 140 mg first time..was in HEAVEN..but dont recommend that dose to you)..dont go overboard if you have no tolerance..i can eat 340 mg because my tolerance..but it sucks that the tolerance builds up so damn quick..and you will need alot more thant the time before..take care and be carefull

120 mg for a first time user IMO

I honestly doubt you'd notice anything at 60mg, that's the normal therapeutic dose for minor pain.

For me at 300mg the high is just a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Takes about 30 minutes to kick in.

You wont.

I've taken ~600mg Codeine in 2 hours many, many times before.

So, what would you recommend as a starting point? 120 mgs?

 

[Rybee]

So, what would you recommend as a starting point? 120 mgs?

I personally would yeah.

 

[Cuhpcakes]

30-60mg is the therapeutic dose so you are unlikely to experience any noticeable recreational feelings from that amount. I would suggest 90 mg as a first dose; assuming you already know you are not allergic to the substance. If your pills contain large amounts of acetaminophen you should perform a Cold Water Extraction. Consuming too much of that stuff on a regular basis will seriously ruin your liver.

Codeine can be a very dizzy/itchy opiate, good luck.

as mention over here 90 mg (I extracted around 140 mg first time..was in HEAVEN..but dont recommend that dose to you)..dont go overboard if you have no tolerance..i can eat 340 mg because my tolerance..but it sucks that the tolerance builds up so damn quick..and you will need alot more thant the time before..take care and be carefull

120 mg for a first time user IMO

I honestly doubt you'd notice anything at 60mg, that's the normal therapeutic dose for minor pain.

For me at 300mg the high is just a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Takes about 30 minutes to kick in.

You wont.

I've taken ~600mg Codeine in 2 hours many, many times before.

I personally would yeah.

I'm a bit weery because oxycodone ALWAYS makes me vomit at least once even if smoke weed.

Codeine isn't as potent as oxy, so hopefully there won't be as much nausea.

Thanks for the advice, you all have been a great help. I'm going to dose on Saturday, I'll let you know how it goes.

Have you tried oxy? Are they similiar? Which do you prefer?

 

[Rybee]

I'm a bit weery because oxycodone ALWAYS makes me vomit at least once even if smoke weed.

Codeine isn't as potent as oxy, so hopefully there won't be as much nausea.

Thanks for the advice, you all have been a great help. I'm going to dose on Saturday, I'll let you know how it goes.

Have you tried oxy? Are they similiar? Which do you prefer?

Then take 90. If you're nervous, you wont enjoy the high. 120 is just my opinion.

Nope not taken oxy, we don't have it in the UK.

I stick to Codeine, Tramadol, Dihydrocodeine, Morphine.

I take an anti-sickness Cyclizine/Buccastem/Metoclopramide when I take high doses of Morphine to stop me from vomiting. You'll be able to get something similar from your local pharmacy. I also take 10mg of Loratadine and Cetirizine when I take codeine as it makes me itch like crazy.

 

[Cuhpcakes]

Do you mind describing codeine euphoria to me, preferably personal experiences? I can't find much sources that explain what I'm asking for.

"warm and fuzzy" is so vague.

 

[Rox]

There is something special about putting a little in your system, having your system recognize it, and then adding more. It takes that combination to experience euphoria. So instead of 10 it would be 5, then after 40 minutes the other 5. Euphoria that can be earned in that case is from being in meditation. You are not going to hear any description of euphoria that is good enough. People would describe it is a warm feeling with a positive energy force behind it, inducing a focused meditative state that has proven to expand a human's mind capacity. People can describe it as a 'positive' feeling. The fact is that when you tell the person it is 'positive' they have no idea what you are talking about. When we talk about positive, it is hardly known. Euphoria is a feeling of pleasure that is felt in different places of the body but mostly and initially around the solar plexus, the area in front of the central nervous system. It can be described as a warm rush or release, not like adrenaline though adrenaline can produce it and many things can produce it, literally like a warm wind or release from a heater and to what extent will be the cause for what is releasing dopamine. Us human beings, produce two special things that people like to attain a different and new state of awareness from. We create dopamine and adrenaline in our activities naturally just by the way we think. Our connection with each other can be a release of pure dopamine naturally.

 

[Cuhpcakes]

There is something special about putting a little in your system, having your system recognize it, and then adding more. It takes that combination to experience euphoria. So instead of 10 it would be 5, then after 40 minutes the other 5. Euphoria that can be earned in that case is from being in meditation. You are not going to hear any description of euphoria that is good enough. People would describe it is a warm feeling with a positive energy force behind it, inducing a focused meditative state that has proven to expand a human's mind capacity. People can describe it as a 'positive' feeling. The fact is that when you tell the person it is 'positive' they have no idea what you are talking about. When we talk about positive, it is hardly known. Euphoria is a feeling of pleasure that is felt in different places of the body but mostly and initially around the solar plexus, the area in front of the central nervous system. It can be described as a warm rush or release, not like adrenaline though adrenaline can produce it and many things can produce it, literally like a warm wind or release from a heater and to what extent will be the cause for what is releasing dopamine. Us human beings, produce two special things that people like to attain a different and new state of awareness from. We create dopamine and adrenaline in our activities naturally just by the way we think. Our connection with each other can be a release of pure dopamine naturally.

Or a release of oxytocin (not to be mistaken with the opiate oxycontin) the "friendship chemical".

Thanks for the great explanation, it really helped me understand the high better. It's true that veryone's experience is different and describing such feelings can be very difficult.

I've done oxycodone on three separate occasions and I could describe each one as peaceful. Slowed thoughts create a calming sensation. I unfortunately haven't felt the pleasurable body buzz because the negatives masked them. Increased temperature, profuse sweating, awful itch and very unpleasant nausea.

And of course it just enhances your perception of life.

 

[Rybee]

Or a release of oxytocin (not to be mistaken with the opiate oxycontin) the "friendship chemical".

Thanks for the great explanation, it really helped me understand the high better. It's true that veryone's experience is different and describing such feelings can be very difficult.

I've done oxycodone on three separate occasions and I could describe each one as peaceful. Slowed thoughts create a calming sensation. I unfortunately haven't felt the pleasurable body buzz because the negatives masked them. Increased temperature, profuse sweating, awful itch and very unpleasant nausea.

And of course it just enhances your perception of life.

It's tough to describe really... it just makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside! I wouldn't say it makes me feel happy, but just more content and a bit drowsy. Listening to music always seems to be enhanced, whether it's Trance/Dance music or just chillout music. Them few hours just let you escape from the general miserableness of life and everything becomes so calm and smiley.

I don't know... I guess it depends in what doses you take. The last opioid I took was morphine in quite a high dose, and hat was completely different. It was very intense, I felt very euphoric and my breathing got incredibly shallow, almost hard to catch my breath. I never felt in danger, but I felt like I was facing a bit of a fight from it and was pushing my boundaries. It's really hard to explain but generally opioids just make me feel warm, fuzzy and content with my life. I felt very peaceful, and for someone who struggles with anxiety, that moment of peace is just bliss

As said, go to your local drug store and get some anti-histamines to stop you itching, and an anti-emetic to stop you feeling nauseas. Feeling sick and itchy completely kills the high

 

[Cuhpcakes]

I've tried diphenhydramine and weed to no avail at combating the nausea. Thanks for the sound advice though.

Do you think I should do an extraction? If I take 120 mgs of codeine I'd also consume 1,200 mgs of acetaminophen(tylanol or APAP).

 

[Rox]

Yeah, you would think the nausea is from the chemicals digesting in the stomach, but it actually is from the stimulation that is being created in the medulla oblongata. So you can look at it as a function that is opening up the ability to harness and sustain euphoria. Normally a human's central nervous system isn't designed to sustain euphoria, and the activation in the medulla oblongata area is like putting to sleep the body's resistance, or relaxing the access to the mind. This would be a time to consider the reasons for getting into it because it is like opening up a door. Temperature changes are a reflect of the medicine leaving the system which shouldn't be an effect of duration but afterwards. The very little known reality is that all the different companies making the medication are making it differently, and the quality of the medication is vastly different between companies in production even though it still has the same name. Very few know this but the ones that do completely understand. Even in the same company the process line for a certain medication can be different from another, so you can have one company that can have a great product for one generic, and a product which produces the results you experienced for a different generic even though it is the same company. What is considered to be a best alternative is totally not understood in society, as if they were lost behind the mirage of financial gain, politics, and worldly deception.

 

[Rybee]

I've tried diphenhydramine and weed to no avail at combating the nausea. Thanks for the sound advice though.

Do you think I should do an extraction? If I take 120 mgs of codeine I'd also consume 1,200 mgs of acetaminophen(tylanol or APAP).

1.2mg of ACAP is fine in a single dose buddy. I wouldn't bother with an extraction unless you've got +2mg of ACAP

 

[Rybee]

Also, I expect a review on your experience once you've done it. %)