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How much 2C-E is too much?

Wow, someone with a knowledge drug base and several experments on himself is the cause why these illegal substances should be banned,

I know exactly what I was getting into when I dosed the amount I did, and it ain't some stupid kid scenario licking powder of his fingers stereotype.

My main question here is whether or not there are any persistant (not-necessarily long lasting) effects from using such a high dose of 2C-E.

By the way Dwayne, I've lost almost complete respect for you. You don't know me, you don' know how I do things, you have no reason do judge me. You blew up in this chat room in '07 and spewed nonsense until you got to the 2,000 point mark.

One last time I knew was I was doing and you don't understand how much it angers me thnking that I'm some naive kid with no chemical knowledge. I'll like to take that statement and plaster it across your head, not not th fun way, either. I'm sorry I ever thought even slightly high of you.
 
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SizzleSword said:
You blew up in this chat room in '07 and spewed nonsense until you got to the 2,000 point mark.
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Complete fabrication. "Chat room" WTF? Are you referring to Bluelight as "this chat room"? Some other chat room's number of posts would not translate into Bluelight "number of posts" if that is what you are referring to. And I never "blew up" and "spewed nonsense" anywhere. That comment is total nonsense and a total lie by someone reacting to being yelled at. "Points" what are "points"? None of that makes any sense whatsoever.

I don't care what the intent was... I have done 2C-E many times, 30mg is EXTREMELY strong. You did NOT "know what you were doing", you are a fool if you have convinced yourself of that. If you knew so much about what you were doing you would NOT be here asking these questions and have all these complaints of undesired nasty after affects, begging our advise, now WOULD YOU???

200mg 2C-E in one night is utterly pointless regardless of your "intentions." And extremely dangerous and irresponsible. You obviously have no respect for the proper usage of these substances.

It needs to be said out loud, if not for you to hear the others. This IS a harm reduction site after all.

I don't give a rat's ass what you personally think of me. Now go flush your drugs before you hurt someone.
 
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Nice technicality you pointed out there to try to to sway the argument.

You got on here in 2007, and I remember you quoting stuff from Erowid and Lycaeum, I guess thats complete frabicaton as well. The 'Points' I was referring to were your posts, but I guess someone as bright and intelligent as yourself couldnt figure that out on your own.

No one said that 200mg was a safe dose, I was asking what might be some consequnces of taking such a dose in a night time's length.

And how about you go flush your drugs so you'll never even have the idea what they are.
 
^ who fucking knows, do you see any studies anywhere with human trials on extremely high doses of 2c-e? Why push the envelope, what are you hoping to find? The long term effects are far from being known. I think if you had done research you wouldn't even wonder why you were getting amphetamine like effects. If you are trying to establish how much of a dose of 2c-e will kill you then you are on the right track, otherwise what's the point?

Err on the side of caution when it comes to your health. The personal attacks above are pointless and only make you look like you can't defend your position. If you think 200mg isn't a safe dose, then don't take that much. The consequences? death maybe, cancer, growing another arm, no one really knows. A likely consequence of such short term abuse is a psychotic break or extreme difficulty integrating your experiences. If you survived a 200mg dose, there will probably be no long term consequences, but why take the risk? 2c-e is not like LSD where you can take 100 hits and be fine, there is so much stimulation from 2c-e that I wouldn't even want my body going through that kind of torture.

This is a harm reduction site, what kind of responses were you expecting? If you knew the history of 2c-e you would know that it hasn't been studied long term and especially not with extreme doses. The possibility that some kids may have overdosed on 2c-e still exists (not saying it happened for sure), after hearing stuff like that it makes me leery of even using 2c-e let alone taking 200mg in a day.
 
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I wish you guys wouldn't take things so personally from each other. We are not here to tell others what to do, but instead of that we tend to see well-meant advice that is given with the best intentions for the other in mind.

What I think is important to underline here is that if you hear here that 2C-E is not known to have scientifically proven to cause certain long term damage, that it is bad to assume that there isn't any. That would be the worst thing to take away from this after abusing 2C-E. Instead heed the warning of fellow trippers that you have come to consult here. Abusing 2C-E like that is in every conceivable way counterproductive, if you got away with it count your blessings but don't continue like this. If you can't I agree that it is better you would flush it, since you prove to yourself not to be able to handle it responsibly. God knows I have flushed a thing or two. Making a mistake is can be forgivable, rolling with it anyway less so.
 
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Subjectively I also think 20mg 2c-e insufflated is too much. It was a really bad bodyload, I was on the floor and didn't move. Subjectively I was on a court of my own egos/personalities. It somehow showed me what I'm doing wrong in life etc. At that day my depression was instantly gone. I had a burn out syndome at that time, was going to the doc but the * wasn't doing a thing in 3 months beside tests ...
A hard case would have killed himself in that time.

Actually I wouldn't even waste my time with 2c-e. 4-substituted tryptamines are far better. I bought it back then becase everyone was saying that it had the best visuals. I NEVER had any visuals. Just hallucinations/dreams. My first visuals were with 4-ho-met.
 
Too much is too much.

If you think you're doing too much, chances are, you probably are.
 
SizzleSword said:
Wow, someone with a knowledge drug base and several experments on himself is the cause why these illegal substances should be banned,

One last time I knew was I was doing and you don't understand how much it angers me thnking that I'm some naive kid with no chemical knowledge. I'll like to take that statement and plaster it across your head, not not th fun way, either. I'm sorry I ever thought even slightly high of you.
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If you have such a drug knowledge then why the hell did you do 2ce 5 days in a row and how did you have to ask about it providing only "amphetamine-like physical effects" after 5 days? Anyone who knows shit about psychedelics knows that you cannot take a psychedelic 5 days in a row without extraordinary doses, and that these kind of doses are stupid, wasteful and dangerous.

You sound like an idiot that can't own up to his mistakes.

Unfortunately though, yes, it IS you who is getting 2ce banned. It is directly because of the irresponsible behavior of ignorant people like yourself who are taking compulsive and irresponsible doses of 2ce up the nose with no respect for it, themselves or the entire drug community and dying. What did you expect? 2c-e happens to be a lot of people's favorite psychedelic here, or among their top, and it's getting banned because of some people that died insufflating ~100mg. You go through about 200mg in one night and do it for 5 in a row, and get defensive when people get angry? Something else...
 
Yeah Sizzle Sword, don't give Dwayne a hard time for telling you something you need to hear, which is, be fucking careful dude.

And it sounds to me like you ARE some naive kid, since you can't even go to erowid and look at the 2C-E dosage chart, which cleary defines 10+ mg of snorted 2C-E as a "HEAVY" experience. Don't get mad at anyone but yourself if you don't like the answers you get after you come here and ask infantile questions about your own reckless drug use.

So stop being so mouthy, and heed the adivce that others are giving to you, and don't get yourself hurt or killed.
 
I tried not to, but he personally did. I was merely asking the question if 200mg over the course of the night could cause any adverse side effects. Instead I was scolded, call a chil,d tol to flush my stuff down the toilet, etc. So I think I had a right to get upset aout that.

I am very familiar with both 2C-E and 2C-T-7, the reason why I was asking about the lingering stimulangt effects if because I don't get it from 2C-T-7. Do't give Dawyne a hard time? He literally make me look like a foolish child, and I won't take that from someone who posts nonses for the past 5 years. Instead of mockey and name-calling, I wish there could be some sort of data on the ongoing stimulation and vasoconstriction.
 
And again I know the doses chart and I've been very familiar with a few of the 2C chemicals. This isn't my first time ordering a powder off the internet and dabbing into it, like it is for most of your people.
 
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And again I know the doses chart and I've been very familiar with a few of the 2C chemicals. This isn't my first time ordering a powder off the internet and dabbing into it, like it is for most of your people.
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Then why, for God's sake, did you do something idiotic and irresponsible? Now that you've demonstrated to us that you do have some sort of knowledge of 2c-e dosing, you've tangentially shown us that you are retarded or something.
 
It was actually one of the best trips I had despite the constant thirst and urination. Now after a few days that vasoconstriction and whatnot has gone away completely; so much for the fatal 2C-E induced 200mg psychosis.
 
For quick reference my first post was directed towards the after-effects of high 2C-E doses, nothing about tripping out too hard like a kid that licked his finger with DOC on it. Start thinking about what you're saying before trying to slander me.

And don't give me that guinea pig DEA CIA kid got anonymous powder and ate it all and is dead bullshit. THAT'S the dumb ideas and shit that's going to bring this to and end, not someone experimenting with high doses or fairly well-documented materals.
 
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No, I was simply attempting a prolonged dose to see what the aoutcome would be.
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If you attempted an experiment on yourself where you stopped eating and drinking for days to see what the outcome would be, I would call you retarded.

When the effects of prolonged psychedelic use are well-documented, and you choose to just try it out anyway with a chemical that is hard on the body, "just to see what would happen" when there is a plethora of literature telling you pretty much exactly what will happen, I would also call you retarded.
 
When I sid that I wasn't I'm talking about regular scheduled meals. I wasn't able to do that, basically I basically make fruity smoothies and a banana milkshake. I think there was some fruit cocktail. 16.9fl oz of water were drank every thirty mnutes on the stop.

Nothing was just to see what would happen, it was to see the proundness than a high amount of 200MG could produce in the right settings.
 
Well that had nothing to do with anything. At any rate, I'm done here, irresponsible people can never accept that they are irresponsible, I don't know why I or anyone else bothered.
 
Yeah I'm done here too, if somenoe can't correlate something they had just posted to what another person said in he VERY NEXT POST (you stated I didn't eat for five days when I did), that's pretty sad. Move along, pal.
 
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