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How many of you can believe in incarnated angels?

Ninae

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Don't want to make another controversial thread, I'm just curious about how credible, or even belivable, this concept is to most.

Coming from a family where the majority of us are said to be incarnated angels (from several sources) and also having taken part in many organised spiritual study groups, the number who have had this confirmed in some way, either by clairvoyant readings or past-life regression, is quite high. They are naturally attracted to such activities, though.

In fact, the "unspecialness" of it all or strikes you more and more over time, even if at first it's of course likely to make you feel a little bit special. But from what I understand, at least 1% of humanity, or one in a hundred of us are incarnated angels at all times, to help anchor the divine into human consciousness. So one in a hundred reading this, you can assume. But sure, it's still not 100/100, and tends to lend certain qualities you can learn to recognise over time.

Incarnated angels seems to take on many roles, depending on their unique nature and abilities, some spiritual, some more artisitc, some in places of power. But their main function is to be a kind of door to the angelic kingdom and the spiritual energy that pours out from there. There is a certain "feeling" or vibe about them, what I like to call "angel-energy". If I were to describe it I would say it's the most alike the feeling of children up until the age of about 7, when they have this pure, divine feeling, about them, though more corrupt by adult life.

I have many personal things I could share, but this isn't supposed to be about me, I'm more interested in hearing about other examples and the view of it in general. And if it is true how does it make you feel? Do you find some comfort or upliftment in it or do you think it's just a chance for someone to elevate their egos? Most angels I know are very humble, though, even if they have good reason to be proud the ego isn't very strong so they don't derive that much ego-gratification.

Either way, I know many celebrities who have been incarnated angels. Cleopatra was one and that was a key to her power. More contemporary names I could mention are Marilyn Monroe, Linda Evans, Vanessa Paradis, Brian Wilson, Thom Yorke, Pete Doherty, Brooke Shields, Tiffani Thiessen, Alexis Bledel, Jason Priestley, Emma Rigby, Ronan Keating, Pamela Anderson, Gunnhild Sundli, HRH Princess of Norway (with her "Angel School"), to name a few (Not 100% sure on all of them, they can all give off an angel-vibe, but it can also be for another reason).

This is a good example of a performance of typical angel-energy, some might say stereo-typical but many actually are like that, so here you can see for yourselves:

 
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I'm not sure.

In Islam, I seem to remember there is an idea that each man (person) is... has a major imprint of a certain angel. Some men are Michaels. Some are Gabriels. Some Uriel. Some Raphael. Etc. I can't remember.

Angel, as a word, means messenger. This opens doors to more interpretations as well. And I remember reading somewhere that whoever witnesses an Angel, cannot be truly separated from the Angel (Whoever hears a message, cannot be separated from the message? Perhaps this too).

I believe angels and humans play in this together. I'm not sure we can be separate. The estimate of 1/100 may be low. Angels might employ humans in their work at varying levels, all of the time. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure, but I have a lot of synchronicity involving them. It would take a long time and I don't imagine trying to explain it all here would be something many would be open to, or that I'd do a good job of it right now.

My main synchronicity has occurred, to my conscious awareness, with Michael, and Gabriel. I think there may be more to it, though. These angels are one within a system, so I may embody both, and many more. But that doesn't mean another doesn't.

I have to admit, I'm without knowledge, and confused sometimes, about how to say this.

A little story, to start:

One day, starting work as a courier for the day, I left to go pick up a delivery. I noticed I had the details of a person in Long Branch, New Jersey, which is states away from me. D'Amico, Angel. This person was born on the 23rd of a certain month and year- I forget. Need to look in my journal. But the number is one that often has stood out, and has been special, and synchronous in my life. I knew I got sent this order by accident, but it was an accident that wasn't an accident.

I went to pick up my real order. I looked at this other order, for Angel, as I pulled into the parking lot of the pharmacy, contemplating. Then, at the drive up window, I was asked for my I.D., and I realized then that I had lost it. I gave the pharmacist my social security number instead, and then he asked me, "Is your name Michael?".

New Jersey?

I have more that I could write, but I'll leave it at this for now.
 
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I almost went onto reference how Michael is associated with police, military, firefighters. But, I had to get back to driving.

My story involved a "voice" calling me, or saying "Sheriff", shortly after the man asking me if my name was Michael, after I realized I lost my I.D., after I got a "wrong" order, that was going to an "Angel" in "New Jersey" (new name/title?). This voice has been accurate, voicing things that would be mirrored, specially, in my near future, or hinting at things I didn't otherwise have conscious awareness of, or couldn't.

Around this time, perhaps it was the same night, but later, or perhaps the next- I can't remember exactly, I became angry, and wanted validation. I have insecurity. So I want validation. I wrote that I wanted "worship". That I know I shouldn't, but I wanted it. I was at, or was about to be at a gas station, and when I got there and got out, around the same time as I put the pump to my tank, or something synchronous I can't really remember-- The beginning or end of an action, a number of cops "rushed" in on the lot. It wasn't an emergency, but they drove aggressively. The pumps were empty, except myself, and suddenly there were many squad cars there in the lot. It was just how it went together, and how closely it happened. Yes, could just be "coincidence" or nothing, but I felt served. I felt in the control of things, for what I asked, and how I associated Cops, with Michael (or Michael with cops, at their best, at least). The energy was high. It was synchronous, with movement, and thought.

This is some of what I initially began to write, in the previous post.

I wouldn't have included it, had more not happened.

Talking about it, then getting back to my final drop off point, to return containers to the hub, I am followed by what appears to be a police car, after turning onto Crosspoint. It turns out not to be a cop. The headlights looked like one. I pull into the lot, near the dock. John's van is there. I unload my totes and sit them at the door, and then I start walking to the side of the building, to relieve myself, but then I see lights- a car turning onto the road nearby, so I halt, and watch. This is a cop, in a grey, unmarked car, tinted windows... I know it's a cop because of the antennas on the back. I get inside, and John mentions another cop that drove by, shining lights on the building, when he was out smoking a cigarette.

I go on my way after filing my paperwork. A 20 minute drive home. 10 minutes on the interstate, about. Getting off of the interstate, and at the light, a squad car pulls up beside me. We both turn left. He and I go down Meridian, him flying, me behind a ways, and he turns right at my turn, where I also turn right. At my next turn, where I would turn left, I almost decide to go straight. I keep forgetting that my apartment is now easier accessed from the next turn. But a cop is opposite me in the intersection, so I decide not to make a sudden change. I don't like drawing too much attention when driving, not that I've anything to hide. We both make our turns, both left turns. He pulls into the gas station where all the cops pulled in, in the story I was going to tell, and I see three squad cars down the road with their lights on, opposite side of the road. Some black SUV slammed into a pole, the front end smashed in about 3 feet or so.

Could be nothing. But suddenly, they were everywhere, when I was going to tell a story about when they were everywhere.

I have some involving Gabriel, as well. I was selling pizzas at an apartment complex about 4-5 years ago. I ran out/didn't have the ones some people wanted. They were special kinds. Two Hispanic men came to me, at different times. I had them write their names, and numbers on a sheet of paper, so I could get them their orders. One's name was Angel. The next's name was Gabriel (or reverse that). It had been raining all day. Gabriel is associated with water, for one.

I saw for the first time, a certain Gabrielle, on the birthday of the last girl I fell in love with, Donna. I met Donna on 1/23 (this number, again). I saw Gabrielle on her birthday, 5/30, that year, 2009, at a Nine Inch Nails concert. As I entered the main amphitheater area, I found myself walking directly behind her. She had been in my favorites, on MySpace, for a long time- over a year at that point. I hadn't friended her. She didn't know I existed. But I knew who she was from the back/side angle. A storm happened that night, at the concert. A tornado was spotted a few miles form there, and the rain was coming down, during. I asked her the next day, through message, if she was at the concert, sure she was. She replied only with her number. Perhaps she said, "call me". I did, some days later. And on that day, a close friend- basically family member, someone she called her uncle, died. And I visited her on the day of his funeral, going to a town I don't clearly recall ever going to, an hour away, and parking my car right next to the restaurant that she had planned to take me to. It didn't have a sign, so I couldn't have known. I ended up parking in front of a storage shed. We had lunch. And after, she hugged me, and we hung out for a moment. I was really sexually attracted to her, but still hung up on Donna, for one. They both had red hair. I had a thing for red-heads.

During our hug, I looked to my left, or right, and saw that I had parked directly in front of shed 203. 23, 203, anything 23, in the certain moment, it connects. Where else could I have been? Donna and I, we ended over a miscommunication, to do with helping her remove things from storage. It occurred 203 weeks before 12/21/2012, a date I was looking forward to (and was paid 1221.52 on a check dated for, and Donna's last name, is Price, eh- It means enthusiasm). 161 weeks before I met Donna, was December 23rd, 2005, which was just about the time, for Christmas, that my ex (my first red-head, to have romantic involvement with) gave me a watch, and framed some important art. My birth corresponds to these numbers, in that I was born when 161 full days had passed in the year, and 203 days remained in the year (my b-day as 0 day, for me). As well I was born exactly 23 weeks into the year, and I met Donna on the 23rd day of the year, and her name, given my mother's name, has the same numerical value if letters are summed A=1 and Z=26. The art that was framed, was prints 26/100. There is a lot of numbering involved. Many will critique me for this. I'm just trying to make sense of things.

Donna played one song when we were together, for the week that we were talking. She played it as soon as I entered, after I had taken a break to be alone/gather my thoughts, and take a shower, and feed the cat- Bob. Peter Gabriel, "In Your Eyes", was the song. I didn't know the song had meaning, for what I had done. "I drive off, in my car...". She was beautiful. She was the longest I ever stared into someone's eyes. It was something she instructed of me, the first night together. To this day I probably haven't locked eyes with another, longer.

It's long past. I still have connections with her, with my thoughts. I'll think things, I'll do things, and she'll provide an answer, or communicate, somehow, or mirror. But so does my reality.

We went to a bookstore, and the first book that I picked up, was a book called Letter Perfect: The Marvelous History of Our Alphabet From A to Z. She was, with me. She put her hand on my shoulder, for a moment, as I was kneeled down looking through it. I was on the letter E-- E the first letter that I wrote in my life, that I remember. A string of loops, as my mother had just taught me, I remember clearly. I was no more than age 3, or so... Maybe four. And here, this one, with letters, that could sum to the same as my mom? And the letter J, in this book, begins on page 184- which is this number. J begins my name.

Messengers. Messages. The Word.

Gabrielle, who I saw first on Donna's birthday, last contacted me on my birthday, 6/11, wishing me a happy birthday. I never spoke with her again. She was painting me a picture, I think. I didn't want to lead her on. I wasn't available.

I have more that I could write, but I'll leave this, for now.

Ah... Michael Trent Reznor is Nine Inch Nails. So I saw Gabrielle at Michael's concert. I should include that. And Michelle was the last girl I slept with, before meeting Donna. A neighbor lived below me around the time of Donna, or moved in. His name was Michael Mitchell. Both names are of Michael. He was a musician, and was a manager at a guitar shop. His dog, Apollo, would wake me up in the mornings, with his barking, and Michael (who went by Clay), would say "Apollo!", to get him to be quiet. My next apartment that I moved to, a guy, also below me, I never seem to commit his name to memory, and don't know off hand, but when I met him, he told me his band was "The Michaels". My friend, Michael, had me as his best man at his wedding. He's an F/A-18E pilot now. The one time I saw him in a jet, he had landed in my city from training out West, on his way back East. The name on his jet, was Jeff (My name) Trent, and NIN resonating as a favorite sound of mine, I thought this special. I got my first blowjob/ejaculated for the first time in a girl, at Michael's church, in the parking lot, inside the mouth of a girl with a name that means "God's satisfaction", listening to the 23rd song on a Nine Inch Nails album. When Michael landed, that day, we went out to eat, and the girl who took our order was Cassie ("She who entangles men"), who was my second girlfriend. It was a surprise to see her, as I we didn't know she worked here, and it had been since high school that we saw her. This is a different city, as well.

I got with her while with her best friend, Kristin- Kristin who was my first girlfriend, in the fourth grade. They both asked me out- one one day and one the next, and I said yes to both. Kristin, the first one, I found out later in life that she and I share a birthday. With "Christ", Crystal was the only girl I connected with sexually, from the church that I grew up in. With Christ, Christina was the first neighbor that I had, that was near my age, and was the first girl that I saw naked outside of my family, and first I talked about marriage with. We were around 5. Christopher Dick***** was the first time I had a person-person sexual experience, in the 2nd or 3rd grade. He put his mouth around me, down there. And I reciprocated. The next, was Michael. Another Michael. Then another Michael moved from England, who shared or had a birthday very near this Michael, as they joined birthday parties. Michael and I were the first to befriend Michael from England. Michael stayed for the second and third grade, then his family moved back to England.

I know this is convoluted. It could be more.

Kassandra/Cassandra is also Donna's mother's name (unless its Alexandra, as Sandra). Cassie, like Cassie Coldren, who I mention above, is short for this name. A picture of Donna's mother looks like my cousin, Cassandra. Again, Cassandra, "she who entangles men". To go along with the number 23, in our language W is the 23rd letter of the alphabet. Cassiopeia is of the same as Cassie/Kassandra. Cassiopeia, the constellation, is generally shaped like a W, in this alphabet. To pre-emptively win any argument that should arise about how many languages their are, and how short sighted I might be to only use this one here (and why it might matter, not that another might not), this is the standard language of the planet at this time, and standard alphabet... The most used, at this time, that I am able to write this message. ...If you look at Cassiopeia, the constellation in the sky, to then look directly behind you, if you could see through the planet, you would find yourself looking at Alpha Centauri, which contains within it's system, the closest star to our own. From it, we appear in this constellation.

I wrote a long story- a blog about a dream of when I went outside of the planet. When I was among the stars. Dream. Real. I don't know. Dream and real. It was a three part blog entry, on here. And then Donna posted a picture, for her background, of stars.

I listened to a song, "In her eyes, she turns light into color, in a room full of rainbows..." a lyric that repeats throughout. Donna posts a picture of the spectrum of color, within minutes.

Michael, the one who I was best man for his wedding, for, married Ashley. Michael, for one, is associated with fire, as an Angel, like Gabriel is to water. Ash, he called her.

Muhammad allegedly received the Koran from Gabriel over a period of 23 years.
Donna was the first time I understood why women wear masks. She was so beautiful. It's misunderstood.
MASK are first name initials of girls I have been in relationships with, who I have invested myself into. Syllables in all four full names as they were comes to 23, for one.
Mask is another name for my last name.

Sometimes I feel like they got me like

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Or she does. I'm not sure who, really. LOL.
 
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I accept the possibility that there are forces that have a stake or interest in humanity, wishing it to move in a certain direction, that exist beyond the physical. In the same way that we as humans take an interest in the well being of other life on Earth.
 
Humans, generally speaking, are selfish and unholy. A loving God wouldn't waste our time reincarnating our souls onto a mortal plane over and over. Eventually he'd run out anyway and have to fill bodies with other things.
 
Yes little angel, you are a special type of snowflake alright. Whatever gets you through the day i guess.


:rolleyes
 
more amazing synchronicity from what 23. or totally boring coincidence? you be the judge.

what 23, have you read the illuminatus trilogy? i'm going to assume the answer is yes but, if not, you really should.

fnord!

alasdair
 
^I'd rather not bring controversy to this thread, on my behalf, but I must mention that the telegraph, which was the technology that allowed for the first time messages to be sent over long distances consistently, much faster than the previous methods (horseback, for one), and at that, overseas, and across the globe, connecting it on a level that hadn't been done before, that the first message that was sent using this system officially, was from Numbers 23:23. So then came a new age, of communication. Messaging. This occurred years before the Illuminatus trilogy, or any known-now consciousness of any nature of "23". To me, 23 has been with my own experience with "angels" ("malach" as well meaning messenger, to do with messages). I try to express that. I may fail. I don't know. I do that a lot. But, for numbers, religions and various other traditions in spirituality often hold numbers as special. Religion and spirituality is very personal, though we would like to share with others, for various reasons.

The 23rd President of the United States- Harrison from Indiana, where I am from, was the last president in history to sport a beard. He was the first president to have his voice recorded. The beard frames the face, and mouth, big communicators. Harrison was after Cleveland, who was also after Harrison, which is the only time this has happened. Harrison can also be said to have come before (after), and after (before). It is special among the rest, in that way.

I can go on and keep trying to share, or have a discussion... But maybe let's do it over private message, as I don't really want to be responsible for turning this into another repeat of what has happened before.

As for a loving God, stars were destroyed (self destructed) and that created the parts that are in us. Much destruction brought us. Much sacrifice. Without it, we wouldn't have developed. Everything isn't peachy.

Humans might be farm animals. We may even be like farmed plant-life (The rapture, the reaping). How can a fruit understand the desire for it's sweetness? It uses it for other reasons, and probably doesn't comprehend the animal eventually munching through it... But that is one way it developed, by being eaten. That is one way it is spread.

Much of it is ugly, if we only see within a certain view. Not to say I see from above. I have no clue.
 
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Angels, ancient aliens?

They have a cable television channel in my country that does a pretty amusing job of perusing and abusing such topics.
 
In truth, there are angels everywhere. Many are incarnated as animals. The whole of the plant kingdom can be seen in a way as the angelic kingdom made incarnate on Earth.

People just don't regocnise it. While when you learn to recognise the energy or vibration it's very easy to spot. We are all the same or more similar. While human souls are more individualised. They are allowed to develop more individuality or stray further from the divine. This is also part of what makes them interesting. Many angels are endlessly fascinated with humans and try to emulate them as they've got something we haven't got. But many walk both paths at once.

But living as an angel on Earth is usually nothing that glamorous. It's nothing like "Angels" by Robbie Williams (who's not an angel either). It's a form of sacrifice and lowering yourself to the human level. The spiritual light you excel at doesn't really get you anywhere. But its not supposed to in the first place as it's meant to be an unselfish endaveour.

When people see you they subconsciously think "That's a harmless little thing I don't need to worry about". They subconsciously feel "It's so easy for you in heaven, but it's not so easy for you here, is it? You're a bit out of your depth". And they get some pleasure from that. They know they can do you harm without the risk of much harm coming to them.

Empathy and compassion are the most developed qualities. This makes harming someone, even to defend yourself, very hard. There is a resistance there. Ultimately, angels are intelligent as they're very ancient, but more in a mentally creative way. Not so much in an Earthly way. But in higher inspiration usually hard to beat.
 
^I'd rather not bring controversy to this thread, on my behalf, but I must mention that the telegraph, which was the technology that allowed for the first time messages to be sent over long distances consistently, much faster than the previous methods (horseback, for one), and at that, overseas, and across the globe, connecting it on a level that hadn't been done before, that the first message that was sent using this system officially, was from Numbers 23:23. So then came a new age, of communication. Messaging. This occurred years before the Illuminatus trilogy, or any known-now consciousness of any nature of "23". To me, 23 has been with my own experience with "angels" ("malach" as well meaning messenger, to do with messages). I try to express that. I may fail. I don't know. I do that a lot. But, for numbers, religions and various other traditions in spirituality often hold numbers as special. Religion and spirituality is very personal, though we would like to share with others, for various reasons.

The 23rd President of the United States- Harrison from Indiana, where I am from, was the last president in history to sport a beard. He was the first president to have his voice recorded. The beard frames the face, and mouth, big communicators. Harrison was as was after Cleveland, who was also after Harrison, which is the only time this has happened. It is special.

I can go on and keep trying to share, or have a discussion... But maybe let's do it over private message, as I don't really want to be responsible for turning this into another repeat of what has happened before.

As for a loving God, stars were destroyed (self destructed) and that created the parts that are in us. Much destruction brought us. Much sacrifice. Without it, we wouldn't have developed. Everything isn't peachy.

Humans might be farm animals. We may even be like farmed plant-life (The rapture, the reaping). How can a fruit understand the desire for it's sweetness? It uses it for other reasons, and probably doesn't comprehend the animal eventually munching through it... But that is one way it developed, by being eaten. That is one way it is spread.

Much of it is ugly, if we only see within a certain view. Not to say I see from above. I have no clue.



What????
 
Gabriel is my main guardian angel too. Though he probably has hundreds of thousands of protegees. He can be in as many places as he wants at one time.

But it's true that he's the messenger angel, or the Archangel of Communication. So that's bound to affect your personality, in that you feel very expressive, and have a strong urge to share your ideas with the world.

Even if some of them aren't on such a high level. But it can be hard for you to tell the difference. Because the ideas that are directly inspired by him are so worthy.

By the way, Gabriel isn't exactly happy with me.

Apart from when I was a child and was picked to play him in the nativity-play when I was 7 years old. He looked back and smiled and said "A perfect angel". Well, that was then.
 
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If it happens, it must be fairly rare and they would have to keep extremely secretive lives because they would end up being killed or abused.

Besides, they can influence a lot more from the non-physical.
 
That's not my experience. Three of my grandparents, my mother, aunt, both of my sisters, and probably several of my cousins, plus more I don't know of. And you can influence in a different way when actually in the physical world. Most can't even sense the spiritual world so it's quite limited like that.
 
That's why I said it wasn't that special.

But it's not really like you'd imagine. My sisters don't even believe in God. Everyone has a good heart but we all have our own strengths and weaknesses.

The whole point of being in the material is to focus on that, so that is what most of us do. Not everyone wants spiritual ideas to interfere too much with that.
 
You don't "ask for worship" from humans.

Angels view humans as equals, even if they are a later creation. Not so much because of how they start out but for what they have the potential to become. Angels are on the descending arc, or, they descend in consciousness for a while, then ascend up back again. While humans are on the ascending arc. They start out low and aim to end up high or divine.

They can start out on the level of animals or plants. Some are even said to start out at the level of the Atom. And then grow and expand their consciousness from there. Because of all the resistance they have to overcome they tend to become very strong and resilient, and more resistant to evil in a way.

While angels don't spend so much time in physical incarntions and have less experience with negativity and darkness. Old, advanced souls, like Jesus, are more successful than most angels in human form. Jesus being something special, supposed to be one of the first human souls created. He's the main rolemodel for humans.

The role of angels is more as servants, protectors, and guides of humankind. Angels weren't created for life in lower or physical dimensions, but decided to get involved in it anyway, partly to help humanity out and partly as a way to evolve and develop more quickly. It enables you to grow much faster than angels who always stay in Heaven.
 
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Probably, or something similar to that, but that I don't really want to get involved in. I don't have any connection or oversight of the demonic kingdom. I understand some of humanity's and angels' nature.
 
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