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How many here have been hospitalised as a result of drugs?

Fuck me. Just checked back and this thread has turned , from the who's gone to hospital because of drugs thread.
To the , I'm more responsible than you are thread.
Good luck to everyone , reckless or sensible.
 
I would say irresponsibility is the reason for 90% of hospitalisations, whether it is taking too much or mixing the wrong drugs or simply necking an unknown or untested new substance.

Getting fucked, for the sake of getting fucked will fuck you up, fucker ;)
 
I've said as much as I want & plenty more really, Chatty indeed =D

But as my final point, I think those who have experienced addictions have a degree of insight that people who have not, do not & cannot understand.

It's easy to look on from the outside & say you make the right choices until guess what... suddenly one day you don't have a choice or make a wrong decision; we are only human after all.
 
People can be as careful as they possibly can but unfortunately sometimes accidents do happen for whatever reason.
 
Sorry Bob, I've seen far more complex things debated on here. People have become too used to the Tl;dr cop out.
 
One Thousand Words said:
Yet not a single person becomes addicted their first hit, just as not every single person from a disadvantaged background uses drugs as a crutch. It still comes down to personal choice at some time in their life. I'm not saying once addicted it makes it any easier to quit either. However long term Bluelighters who have this forums vast array of knowledge at their disposal who still decide to push the boundaries of sensible drug taking only have themselves to blame, not their social position or genetics.
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I never once suggested anybody gets addicted first time they use a drug. Nor do I equate unfortunate incidents relating to drug use purely with addiction. There's plain ol' bad luck in there too which also hadn't had much of a mention so far. Of course everybody can make better or worse decisions - they're not always aware of that fact at the time though and not always actually in a position to be making those decisions. What I am saying is that there are factors beyond being well-informed that are involved and to suggest otherwise is ignorant as well as insulting - could any of us really unpick any major event in out lives to the point we could pin it down to a decision we got wrong? I doubt it to be honest and if anybody thinks they can they are woefully underestimating the complexities of life.

StoneHappyMonday said:
I love all this "I'm not gonna argue my point" stuff. Good grief. And the loaded term "moron" doesn't do a lot for me to believe you're following my argument either Shambles.
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I'm following your argument just fine. Yes 'moron' is a loaded term but I am prone to using loaded language for effect - it's a bad habit of mine I would agree but it's also quite satisfying sometimes hence happening quite a lot. When you're saying things like "If you can't tell the difference between 0.5g and 0.05g on a scale you shouldn't be measuring drugs" I would agree but that's never the case - unless we are talking about an actual moron. Mistakes happen. Calibrations slip. Settings change. Yes there are people more anal than others who carefully check every aspect of their scale each and every time they use it. Other people may be a bit wasted and not pay such close attention and not notice that the tiny lil 'g' in the corner changed to something else that looks much the same without close inspection. Shit happens and it's not always simply a case of making bad decisions. Nobody is that omnipotent.

One Thousand Words said:
I would say irresponsibility is the reason for 90% of hospitalisations, whether it is taking too much or mixing the wrong drugs or simply necking an unknown or untested new substance.

Getting fucked, for the sake of getting fucked will fuck you up, fucker ;)
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I more or less agree with this too. Aside from the arse-pulled percentage obviously. Maybe it's 90% maybe it's some other percent. It's a percentage and probably a high one though for sure. That is not the same thing as saying it's all down to being well-informed though is it? And that is the only point I was making, fucker ;)
 
Then just look at this thread, heroic doses of unknown drugs like MXE and eyeballing GHB seem to be a pretty predictable outcome to me.
 
SHM: I'd love to know where you get your pharmaceutical grade drugs.

I agree entirely with Shambles in that yes, the majority of drug hospitalizations are due to irresponsibility but the nature of the irresponsible behaviour differs case to case. It's really hard to detach genetics/environment from decisions/actions. There are so many variables to consider which ultimately come together to form a decision then act on it, that it's hard to even begin to list them.

You're a very fortunate drug user SHM and that's great. I'm glad that you've had the best of it but some of us do struggle with addiction and all the associated risks. Your very argument could also be used to call all addicts: idiots - couldn't it?

I hope you're not getting antsy about this. I don't want to create some internet feud over a debate I find merely interesting. If you are getting ants in your pants ignore me and we'll kiss, hug and do drugs responsibly <3
 
I know plenty of addicts who never end up at the hospital though. While overdoses are a risk with something like heroin, particularly when a strong batch hits unsuspecting public, I usually find it is the "experienced" user who gets into trouble more because they believe their tolerance makes them super human and the usually common sense and caution is thrown out the window. Most OD victims I have known have usually also involved a mix of other depressants such as alcohol and benzoes. Sensible rookies usually have the good sense to not poly drug.
 
I've had quite the opposite personal experience. It's been intelligent, part time addicts that I've known that've overdosed. All of them intelligent, and all of them part time addicts. It's the low tolerance or even lowered tolerance coupled with unreliable quality that's caught them out sadly.
 
Back in 2006 I overdosed on some very potent ( if not pure ) mda. To make a long story short, I got rushed to the hospital and remembered getting shot up with lorazepam. I pretty much don't remember shit from that evening except the events leading up to my od.
 
sub21lime said:
Back in 2006 I overdosed on some very potent ( if not pure ) mda. To make a long story short, I got rushed to the hospital and remembered getting shot up with lorazepam. I pretty much don't remember shit from that evening except the events leading up to my od.
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More details. That doesn't sound typical of the definition of overdose I'm thinking of. I'm thinking potentially fatal not "Oh shit my pants this is all a bit much someone help!!!!!!"
 
I think what would be better than this thread would be a 'favourite hospitalisation due to drugs' thread.8)
 
matt<3ketamine said:
4 times, twice with heroin and benzos, then twice OD'd on H, i hate it :(
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Nothing beats being brought round by a stern looking nurse telling you they've confiscated your drugs and to get the fuck out!

I'm pretty sure I had a mini stroke (although it went undiagnosed) after a benzo and smack OD. I was home alone and came round from a hit about 2 days later and I could barely stand up because my equilibrium was so fucked, the entireity of one side of my body was numb, I couldn't lift my arms above shoulder level, I was at maybe 1/3 vision (everything else was black), I could barely hear and I was covered in spots of flesh necrosis. When the ambulance arrived my resting heart rate was ~190 and when I got to the hospital it was found I had rhabdomyolisis. Interested in hearing people's opinions on whether these sound likke the symptoms of a mini stroke, or just an OD that I was lucky to wake up from.

The consultant doctor dealing with me said I'd had a 'bad trip'.:X:X:X
 
the abuse i gave the doctor for saving my life with a naloxone shot was horrendous and after was so appalled at myself, anyone thats been brought out of a gear OD will know what i mean by 'that feeling' when you come to, in a hospital bed/ambulance, doctors really know fuck all about drug overdose patient treatment

shoulda picked him up and shoved him down some stairs, now thats a bad trip
 
19 Years old,
Trazadone Overdose, Got told my heart would stop in the next 12 hours,
Solpadol OD , Too much Paracetomol had to drink TAR
800mgs Diazepam, people freaked out and phoned an ambulance, if it wasn't for my tolerance I'da been fucked
Laragactil OD, I slept it off
Benzo W/D , Massive seizure, after 4 days with no Vals, 60mgs Valium, Sneaked in Phenaz, and Morphine to stop it and take away the pain
Benzofury Legal High, All I remember is taking 2 then I woke up in a resussation room with no recollection of : taking a seizure, hyperventilating, spewing down myself, and talking utter shit
Full of bath salts, A guy thought he was a hard man with a machete so I through him about with it in his hands but I did still need to get to glued up
Full of E, told about 12 guys from a different area I'd take any one of em, buckfast bottle over the head
The phenazepam blues full of em, put my hand through a microwave, 6 stitches
Coughing up blood, On a drip overnight

There's more defoe, I'd be here all night I went through a bad patch and all because Valium laced with Phenaz took over my brain completely

But I am now a healthy person with a not TOO bad life, I'm here for my son, I work (casual) , I'm an active bodybuilder, only dependence is Valium.
 
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