How long will this heroin high last?

[Oxy_Ghost]

Well I tried heroin for the first time today, well actually I tried it once before but it was powder and it sucked. It didn't do anything to me. I woke up this morning withdrawing and to my surprise my girlfriend said she had some black tar heroin that her friend gave her. I always told myself I would never stick a needle in my arm to get high but I ended up doing it anyways. But only because I felt like shit, I'll probably never so it again. Anyways, I did it around 10:00am this morning and it is now almost 2:00pm. I took a nap for a couple hours and I still feel high. She had half a point and we split it. How long is this gonna last? I'm not scared or anything, I'm just wondering. Obviously it's not my first with opiates. I've been addicted to oxycodone for at least 4yrs now. I don't take a lot, 15mg a day some times 30mg. But my tolerance has been at 15mg for a couple years but I still get pretty bad withdrawals(if any of this matters). Was that a decent dose for my first time with heroin? I threw up not too long after I IV'd but I also smoked a bowl of some midz right after taking the heroin. I also felt like I could've taken more.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

I'm surprised you're still high to be honest considering your oxy addiction

 

[Oxy_Ghost]

Haha I know right? Well it lasted til about 2:30 so about a 4 1/2 to 5 hour high lol. I was thinking, damn no wonder some people would rather do H than pills. Where I'm from it cheaper than the pills and I could get high twice at a cheaper cost than blues. But I think I'm gonna just stick with snorting oxy's. The H was a great high but I'm not one for needles and it just seems like the process is way too much just for a high and I don't like my arm hurting for a while after banging it. May try smoking it one time though.

 

[missmeyet?]

That is about average for a heroin high..it might last anywhere from 3 to 5 hours (5 hours is stretching it a little though). It is a wise decision to not switch over to heroin..though it seems cheaper right now, tolerance builds so quickly you will end up spending more on H than you did on your oxys in a relatively short period of time. Try to stick with the "im not going to use a needle" attitude if you can...the problem is, just like every single heroin addict that IVs says they will never use a needle (and they end up switching to IV eventually) they also say I wont ever do it again...and then they do.

I am not surprised that you were still high, your oxy tolerance/habit is very very small compared to most..and with a habit that small it would be crazy to switch over to heroin. The reason that you threw up is you probably did a little more than where your tolerance stands...throwing up after using heroin usually means you did too much. Also, just FYI..if you injected it correctly then you should not have a sore arm after you did it...there shouldnt be any pain. Also, just in case you didnt realize, oxy has a much better bio availability if you take it orally rather than snort it (it goes a lot further and is stronger than snorting it).

 

[Oxy_Ghost]

Yeah I've always had the " never gonna use a needle" attitude but like I said before...I was feeling like total shit and I needed something. But I seriously may never do it again, I realize how fast it hooks you and my girl friend does too and I was very nervous to even try it. But we both know that it's not something we're gonna do again because I'm planning on quitting pills soon and I'm not gonna trade it off for H and I'm definitely not letting her go down that road either. If I even knew that she was gonna get it than I would've talked her out of it but she surprise me with it this morning and it's surprising that she even held onto it for a couple days.

And yeah I know it would be better to take them orally but if I'm doing a pill to get high than I'm gonna snort it. I like the process I use to snort and I love the drips. Honestly, I get disappointed when my drips go away and I try to snort really hard to get any that left haha but I've snorted pills from the start of my addiction. I've never ate one and I'm just gonna stick with snorting them. My tolerance is so low because really I only have enough money to get one a day except a few days durring the week, probably like 4 out of 7 days a week. But my withdrawals aren't too awful bad. RLS is what eats at me the most and is the reason I haven't quit, by the second day it's unbearable and I can't take it anymore. Other than than it's a slight upset stomach and the chills but I'm used to being cold, I'm always cold haha. If I could find something to help with the RLS than id be fine but I haven't found anything yet. I've tried muscles relaxers when I was at detox but it didn't help, hit baths only last for a little while. I haven't tried anything that has to be bought cuz usually when I have money it's going towards oxy's:/

 

[missmeyet?]

RLS is the absolute worst part of withdrawals for me also. Just dont use Benadryl (diphenhydramine) because for me (and some others) it will make the RLS much worse.

 

[babylonboy]

I always told myself I would never stick a needle in my arm

only because I felt like shit, I'll probably never so it again.

I'm not one for needles

Yeah I've always had the " never gonna use a needle" attitude

I was feeling like total shit and I needed something

I seriously may never do it again

we both know that it's not something we're gonna do again

Are you trying to convince BL, or yourself? What percentage, roughly, of people who say they'll never IV, and then say they will, but just... just... this one time, what percentage of those people only ever do it that one time? Be a little bit honest with yourself. I think you know, deep down, that what you're doing isn't good. It's OK though, because you felt like shit, so you get a pass. You can't get pregnant the first time, anyway.

just like every single heroin addict that IVs says they will never use a needle (and they end up switching to IV eventually) they also say I wont ever do it again...and then they do.

Yes, it is just like that. Exactly like that. It might seem like I'm being a dick; call it tough love. You think you're something special? You're telling yourself the same convenient little lies every hardcore needle junkie ever has done. Snap out of it now. Clean up your act now, or you'll long for the days when your biggest problem was snorting a bit of oxy.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

^^^

Truth.

 

[missmeyet?]

^^ x2.

This is exactly what I was trying to say also, glad someone else reiterated it..we all say never will we pick up a needle, we all say we wont ever do it again, we all say just had to do it this time because....<insert whatever reason>, we all (well, a good majority, not all) started off using 15mg of oxy...and thought those first thing in the morning WD symptoms were tough...but had no idea what WDs were til we got further down the line in our addictions...

Like he said, you can say it wont happen to you or that you or your circumstances are different, but almost every single story starts the exact same way...you just cannot ignore it when it happens every single time.

 

[Bman2]

As someone that's been on all sorts of opiates, heroin is a complete joke. I wish I could go back in time when everyone in my area switched away from oxys to heroin because "ITS SUCH A BETTER VALUE". I would beat all these kids over the head for being so stupid(myself included). Yeah it's a better value for about a week tops before your tolerance sky-rockets then you're never happy, just chasing a dragon you can't catch. It ruins everything that's good about opiates. If you want to go from a recreational user to a habitual one, heroin is your drug. Welcome to hell. The high isn't THAT much better for someone who can still feel oxy, I personally prefer a low-tolerance oxy high over heroin. You also know what your getting.

 

[Oxy_Ghost]

First off, I'm not tryin to convince anyone. Yes I know but everyone is different and I have more self control which is one reason I've kept my oxy use steady for the past few years. I know what the needle does to people. Anyways I'm not wasting my money buying needles and I'm definitely not taking any from anyone because idk anyone that shoots up or where to get heroin except the girl that gave my girlfriend the needle and H but I fucking hate that bitch for sticking a needle in my girlfriends arm and then giving her one of he own in the first place. Ever since she started hanging out with her I've been a dick cuz I'm trying to not let my GF go down that road. I'll bet my life that I never pick another needle up again, you guys can say whatever you want but it would be more encouraging to say to not do it again rather than saying some of the things stated above. I know everyone says they won't but end up doing it again but that's just a statistic and like I said, I'm quiting opiates soon. I've got my own family now and that's more important to me than drugs. So if I'm quiting soon than there is no way in hell I'm gonna start another addiction and I'm definitely not gonna be upping my oxy dose. I would rather have smoked the Little bit of heroin we had but I knew my gf wasn't gonna do it and I wasn't gonna go around being sick and in a pissy mood all day. But y'all don't really know me or how I really feel about shooting up. I was scared as hell before I put it in my arm and even walked off. So I can guarantee it won't happen again. But this thread was about how long the high was gonna last, I didn't ask for anyone's input on if I'm gonna keep doing it or not. Like I said, if you wanna be helpful than encourage me, don't tell me I'm gonna end up doing it again. But it doesn't really matter to me if you encourage me or not cuz I know I won't do it again and you'll be proven wrong

 

[Oxy_Ghost]

And exactly Bman, like Missme said - it's cheaper but tolerance goes up faster so it would be more expensive in the long run and it's hard for me to support my oxy habit as it is and I'd much rather do oxy than heroin and I don't want my oxy tolerance goin any high either. I've kept it steady at 15-30mg for almost 3 years now so I don't want it any higher. Yeah my first time with H was pretty good but I'm staying with oxy and smoking bud, it's the only drugs I've ever used almost on a daily basis. Everything else I've tried(Coke, Molly, and now H)was a one time thing. olerance goin any high either.

Sorry for the double post but i tried to edit this in to my last post by it won't save, the "save" "delete" "cancel" buttons aren't working, probably because I'm using my phone, so I had to double post

 

[babylonboy]

I'll bet my life that I never pick another needle up again, you guys can say whatever you want but it would be more encouraging to say to not do it again rather than saying some of the things stated above.

Seriously, prove us wrong, that is what everyone in this thread wants. Like I say, I didn't take time out of my day to put you down, I did it because your assertions rang so painfully hollow, like those of a legion of people before you who said the same things as they shuffled into the hell of a serious intravenous heroin addict like lambs to the slaughter. I could have said "don't do it again", but you'd have said "yeah I know it was stupid", then done it again. The first time you shoot up heroin is the easiest one to resist. What's going to stop you from doing it again next time you have a bad day? Remember how angry and determined what I said makes you feel, and translate that into never injecting yourself with heroin again. I think you misunderstand me, you think that I'm not trying to encourage you to stay away, when that's actually my sole intention, and I'm doing it the best way I know how.

 

[Bman2]

I like your conviction to not do it again, but please understand why people are being what may be considered a little harsh. These people have seen the dark side of this drug. It turns the mind against you. Your idea of never using needles is nice and good, but you already gave in once. You probably noticed the high was strong and it lasted a long time. So what your mind will tell you is: "If I can just get over that fear of needle, I can shoot up and get that longer/better high like I got before". You don't see it happening now, but it usually does. Not saying there aren't some exceptions out there, but to assume you're one of them is wrong. Most people doing 15mg oxy can't even fathom using needles, so to think your alone there is wrong again. I was like you, kept my oxy's at a low dose for a LONG TIME. Longer than you have, but guess what? eventually, you go up in dosage. And after the first time you go up in dosage, it's easier to go up a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th time. Then after a while, you get irritated that you aren't getting high and you start looking for the next best thing. The fact that you think you're good cause of your "self-control" and your ability to stick to low doses tells me your mind has already started playing games with you. If you can sustain that low of a dosage forever, someone needs to give you a fuckin medal. I also wouldn't invest anything into the fact that you don't have easy access to heroin right now. Going up on your oxy dose is just the first step before actually going to heroin. So it sounds like you DO have access to taking that step, hopefully you don't do it. Heroin always pops up somewhere. If you're affiliated with ANYONE that does opiates, it's going to pop up again. So much pain/suffering over this drug, people are just trying to scare you away before you have to experience it.

 

[Oxy_Ghost]

@babylonboy - what's gonna keep me from not doing it again is 1) I dont know where to get it except for my GF's friend but I hate that bitch and I'll never see her again or get anything from her and 2) I'm not gonna go looking for heroin. I'm quitting opiates very soon so I'm not gonna do anything to make my tolerance any higher or the need for anything any stronger. Yeah the high lasted longer but I don't think it was near as good as oxy. Next time when I feel like shit than ill just have to suck it up cuz usually when I'm feelin like shit is because I don't have money at the time to get anything and when i do get money it's gonna be for oxycodone or weed. She only had the H because her friend gave it to her, she didn't buy it or anything.

@Bman - I don't affiliate with anyone that does heroin except for that one girl but like I've said many times, I hate her and will never see her again. I have two dealers for my oxy and neither does heroin or knows where to get it. One of them doesn't even do pills. He just sells them. Also I don't publicly use oxy, like with friends or anything. I get my pills and I go home and that's where I stay. If I do go out than it's to a movie or dinner and that's only with my gf. So I don't hang out with other people that use, I really don't hangout with literally anyone. And again, I'm quitting oxy's soon so I'm not upping my dose and I understand them being harsh but they're not listening to what I've said. They're just assuming that I'll do it again just because most people that try it end up doing it again. But I'm sure there are tons of people that tried it once and never again. I only withdraw because there are a few days out of the week when I don't have money so when I do get money it's for oxy and if I don't have enough for one than I get bud. I've never asked around for heroin except like one time a couple years ago and that's when my dude say he's never done it or knows where to get it. People don't have to scare me away from it. I know what it does, my cousin just got out of prison cuz he was breaking into houses and stealing stuff from his own family so that he could shoot up. I know it fucks your life up, I know it makes your tolerance sky rocket and i know constant IV use destroys your body. All of those are some of the reasons why I won't do it again. It may have been my first time but I'm not clueless as to what it does. I've raised hell to my gf cuz she's shot up a few times already and I tell her she's making a big ass mistake. I tell her that she thinks she'll be fine and not keep doing it but it's gonna suck her in before she even realizes it. I know enough to stay away from it

 

[Bman2]

that's good. If you break it down, staying away from it is the only real way to win.