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Hey everyone, I'm going to roll with some friends for New Years Eve and I was curious if it is likely for me to stay awake until early in the morning, until around 4-5am, if I take my dose at about 9pm.

First of all, I'm not sure if I've ever had pure MDMA, probably just Methylone most of the time. I have been doing MDMA/methylone for about a year now, with a break of at least a month or more in between uses. The reason I say methylone is because after talking to an experienced friend, he said 400-500mg of actual pure MDMA would totally floor me to the ground, and that I most likely did methylone (which I later confirmed with a test kit). At a few festivals I've taken 500mg of "MDMA" (methylone) over a few hours, usually starting off with 200mg, then doing another 100mg an hour later, another an hour after that, and finally a final 100mg dose an hour after that. At one multi-day fest, it kept me up and going from about 10pm to 6-7am. It was an amazing time to say the least, but obviously probably not the best for my health. I'm naturally a very positive person with a great outlook on life, so while everyone else was drained the next day, I was still ready to dance and have fun for the 2nd night, which was my sober night. Anyway, let me get to the point.

I have a new reliable connect for some pure dutch MDMA pills, I even tested them myself to be sure, and I'm wondering how long will 190-200mg of MDMA keep me awake and decently active? I'm not talking about how long the peak will last, more so how long will I be able to stay awake. I will take about 100-120mg at first, then take the rest after an hour. Obviously everyone is different, but I'd love to know if it's reasonable to believe I'll stay awake until 4-5am If I drop at 9pm. If not, what's a good way to get a little extra energy boost to stay awake for a little bit longer? I mean things such as a small coffee, mild energy drink, or sugar. I'm excited to be trying MDMA, most likely for the first time, instead of methylone! Thanks guys, I'm new to the bluelight community and so far I love it.
 
It's all personal. If I'd dose at 9pm with 0 or 1 redose I would definetly be chilling in the couch at 2-3am, falling asleep shortly after. I would stay away from caffeine though, maybe vaporize some green tea .. ?
 
Really depends on how your body reacts to stimulant medications. Some people can take MDMA and fall asleep 4 hours after, others will feel that the drug is still active for much longer (5-7 hours) and stay up.

Honestly, I would say the dosing regime of:

120mg 1hour -> 80mg

Would be best.
 
It's NYE - not everyone that stays up all night partying is taking stimulants - If you are well rested and go easy with the alcohol or anything that would normally make you sleepy then how long can 'you' stay awake for? Caffeine can be a great little boost during your 'roll' but as with most stimulants go easy with the amount you take in case you get the jitters / anxiety normally associated with them.

If you suspect this is your first time taking MDMA then I would not suggest you taking a dose of 190 - 200mgs. As suggested above 120 is a great starter dose and then you have the other 80mgs as a top up should you need it. If you can get some caffeine pills - and are not sensitive to caffeine then putting quarter or half (depending on strength/tolerance) into your booster should give you the added energy to last a bit longer.
 
Take your first dose at 10.30pm, you'll be starting to peak when the celebrations really get going. Starting later will allow the stimulation to last until later too.
 
Like everyone else, I reckon getting started later than 9 would be ideal. Rather count on the stimulants, like caffeine, to keep you going until the point where you have your first dose, than after you have already started coming down, by which case you'll probably have danced to near exhaustion anyway and keeping yourself awake might just make you grouchy. My plan for NYE is to take it real easy during the day and maybe even have a nap, eat well (for energy), then to go out and rely on energy drinks to keep me going until about 11ish when I'll take a 100mg MDMA cap, followed by another 100mg 60-90 minutes later. My friends and I are planning on watching the sun rise, so hopefully that'll do the trick.
 
It totally depends on yourself to be honest. MDMA effects everyone totally different and there is no way of telling, if you really want to stay up I don't see how you shouldn't be able too. Last time I rolled was around halloween. I popped my first at about 10:45 and was hit right at around 11:30. From then on I preceeded to stay up till about 7:30 in the morning and I was trying to sleep at 6 but couldn't. I took about 200 mgs and my buddy who took around 400 fell asleep at about 6:30. Also I took my last pill around 12-1 while he took his at 3 and he passed out like a baby. Your body will get tired but your mind shouldn't, if you wanna stay up smoke some weed when your coming down.
 
Ive both, stayed awake for days, and also fallen asleep a couple hours later..depends on dose, timing of dosage and quality of the MDMA..I've done basically everything u dre the sun, and I must say, the only MDMA I like is that brown stufff ;)
 
Thanks for the tips guys, I'll talk to my friends to agree on a time to take the first dose, most likely later.


Bearlove said:
It's NYE - not everyone that stays up all night partying is taking stimulants - If you are well rested and go easy with the alcohol or anything that would normally make you sleepy then how long can 'you' stay awake for? Caffeine can be a great little boost during your 'roll' but as with most stimulants go easy with the amount you take in case you get the jitters / anxiety normally associated with them.

If you suspect this is your first time taking MDMA then I would not suggest you taking a dose of 190 - 200mgs. As suggested above 120 is a great starter dose and then you have the other 80mgs as a top up should you need it. If you can get some caffeine pills - and are not sensitive to caffeine then putting quarter or half (depending on strength/tolerance) into your booster should give you the added energy to last a bit longer.
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I'm typically a morning person, not a night owl. I usually get sleepy without any aid unless I'm doing something stimulating, such as being at a party. I definitely won't be taking 190-200mg to start, as I don't want to be overwhelmed and floored. Around 100-120mg will be my starter dose, and I'll hold the rest for just a little bit later. I may actually invest into some weak-moderate strength caffeine pills to mix with the booster if necessary. Also, I have a pill cutter that prevents parts of the pill from flying everywhere when cut, but what's the best way to get a cut where one half is slightly larger than the other, so I can get a rough 110-130mg dose? Would you use the pill cutter for a pretty even cut, then cut a small chunk of one of the halves? Thanks for the advice Bearlove.



Ella84 said:
Like everyone else, I reckon getting started later than 9 would be ideal. Rather count on the stimulants, like caffeine, to keep you going until the point where you have your first dose, than after you have already started coming down, by which case you'll probably have danced to near exhaustion anyway and keeping yourself awake might just make you grouchy. My plan for NYE is to take it real easy during the day and maybe even have a nap, eat well (for energy), then to go out and rely on energy drinks to keep me going until about 11ish when I'll take a 100mg MDMA cap, followed by another 100mg 60-90 minutes later. My friends and I are planning on watching the sun rise, so hopefully that'll do the trick.
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That's a simple and great plan to take a nap and rest up on the day of NYE. I think I'll do the same, that usually allows me to be much more active at night anyway.


Thanks again for all the advice everyone, I appreciate it.
 
MDMA doesn't have a long half life or residual effects that keep you up as long like speed or many other phenethylamine do, IME. As soon as the dose wears off for me, I crash, hard. I remember a couple times ago I dropped around that time: 150mg at 9:30 and redosed 75mg at 12:30 and I crashed very hard about 5:30.
 
that what for me sets mdma apart from every other stimulant i've tried, is that it allows me to sleep as soon as i'm down. methylone keeps me up for many hours afterwards.
my reccomendation for good night on mdma would be dosing at midnight (1.7mg pure mdma / kg body weight), redose with half the dose at 01:00-01:30, comedown starting at about 04:30, sleep 05:30-06:00. if you're anything like me in this respect you'd be falling asleep at 03:00 if you took the mdma at 21:00. and redosing more often than once just is not worth it imho. just fucks you up more, with little euphoria and gives you a horrible day after as well as raising your tolerance.
 
If your talking about cutting up a caffeine pill - they are so small its easier to just put between two spoons and crush to a powder - then divide the powder accordingly.
 
First of all, I'm not sure if I've ever had pure MDMA, probably just Methylone most of the time.
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This may sound harsh, but I feel it needs to be said: WHY oh WHY are people putting stuff into their body that they are "not sure of". Everytime I see comments such as this, I often feel that people who act in this way, and then complain about tweaking out, or worse; ending up in hospital due to PMA, (in a very harsh sense) almost have it coming to them. It costs £5 for two Eztests (or any of the other varients), therefore I don't understand why everyone doesn't do this, its common sense. If you choose not to do this, don't come crying when shit hits the fan. I simple Marquis test would tell you if what you have was Methylone or MDMA.

I appologise if this seems blunt, but it really grinds my gears when I see people say things like this. At the end of the day, five quid goes a long way to ensure you are as save as you can be before you ingest your drugs. In my eyes, it is a no brainer.
 
Bearlove said:
Or if he doesn't redose he could just stay awake without the use of drugs.
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Ofcourse, I just meant when you take it at 9pm and then comedown comes you most likely will be really tired, as compared to not taking any at all, then you can stay awake with no problems (there are plenty of sober people who party all night long)
 
Bearlove said:
If your talking about cutting up a caffeine pill - they are so small its easier to just put between two spoons and crush to a powder - then divide the powder accordingly.
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The caffeine pill isn't the problem, I'm talking about the MDMA pill. What's the best way to cut it for 100-120mg (not accurately, roughly)? I've heard it is better to take an initial dose of 120mg or so, then re-dose with half the initial (60mg) an hour later if one plans on re-dosing.



SilentRoller said:
This may sound harsh, but I feel it needs to be said: WHY oh WHY are people putting stuff into their body that they are "not sure of". Everytime I see comments such as this, I often feel that people who act in this way, and then complain about tweaking out, or worse; ending up in hospital due to PMA, (in a very harsh sense) almost have it coming to them. It costs £5 for two Eztests (or any of the other varients), therefore I don't understand why everyone doesn't do this, its common sense. If you choose not to do this, don't come crying when shit hits the fan. I simple Marquis test would tell you if what you have was Methylone or MDMA.

I appologise if this seems blunt, but it really grinds my gears when I see people say things like this. At the end of the day, five quid goes a long way to ensure you are as save as you can be before you ingest your drugs. In my eyes, it is a no brainer.
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Well, to be fair I did not have the knowledge about test kits in the past, and I trusted my friends. It's been less than a year since I first rolled, and I've been learning heavily in the past few months. I have a test kit now from dancesafe.org and it was well worth the money. Methylone is fun though, I've had great experiences while on it, although I don't know how neurotoxic it is compared to MDMA.

I agree with you that it is a no brainer to have a test kit and use it on everything you get, I just did not have enough knowledge or experience to know :)
 
For dosage questions check out the stickied thread at the top of this page "Six Simple Rules" to give yourself a rough estimate on dosage.
 
You just need to take it really late, like everyone else said. And even after the effects have diminished you'll probably still feel a bit stimulated but there's a good chance you'll also feel like shit, wanting to leave.
 
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